Help with Chainlube PAINS!!!

[Ganjora]

Liqui Moly - Biodegradeable and breaks down after 21 days. Expensive but worth it

Ja,  after your GS gets stuck in a river, the frogs will all be happy you used a biodegradable lube on your chain.

[Matewis]

Liqui Moly - Biodegradeable and breaks down after 21 days. Expensive but worth it

Ja,  after your GS gets stuck in a river, the frogs will all be happy you used a biodegradable lube on your chain.

Hahahahaha had to laugh at this one!! I just changed to an 1150. No more chains.

[TheBear]

WD40 works for me, and cleans the chain at the same time. The only drawback is that you get a bit of crap on the rear rim... but it also prevents the spokes from rusting 

I'd be cautious using WD40 on an o-ring or x-ring chain.  WD is formulated with lubricants and solvents.

The solvent will clean the much needed factory chain grease around the pins, shortening chain life drastically.

WD40 is propably the most  popular most used item out there, this hasn't been raised as an issue.

(reference: Facebook discussions with tons of comments!)

WD40 is not actually a lubricant.  It is more a water repellent degreaser and I doubt it would do a chain any good.  Also, with any penetrating type product like WD40, or even Q20, there is a risk of destroying the grease inside the rollers.  I would avoid.  It is not as if a decent chain wax is unaffordably expensive.

[Ganjora]

It is not as if a decent chain wax is unaffordably expensive.

actually it's free at all petrol stations, 
look in the bin,  you bloody capitalist.

[Fudge]

Q20 or WD40?
i think most use wd40 as a synonym for Q20, 
and i think that's also a synonym for spookpiss.
wd is nearly double the price of Q20,  and yget spookpiss for about half of that.
to be honest i have never bought wd40. it's amerikan and over priced for what it is.

Give it a try. WD40 is one of the few things in life for which I am prepared to pay a premium for. (Don't be surprised to find that it is in a different league compared to the Q20's and other pale imitations when used for the same purpose.)

[m0lt3n]

agree^
wD40 is the bee's knees

WD40 is propably the most  popular most used item out there, this hasn't been raised as an issue.

Q20 or WD40?
i think most use wd40 as a synonym for Q20, 
and i think that's also a synonym for spookpiss.
wd is nearly double the price of Q20,  and yget spookpiss for about half of that.
to be honest i have never bought wd40. it's amerikan and over priced for what it is.

I know people misquote them, but WD40 is the good one for chains, q20 is a penetrating spray which should cause issues.
I also started using WD40 for odd jobs after the name popped up so much and love it (struggled to find some initially)

[BuRP]

A man needs to lube his chain well and often.

Hear hear, words of wisdom - and very true too!
Don't think you can lube it too often even! 

[Fuzzy Muzzy]

Wurth sells a product called HSS Dry Lube. I have raced offroad for two years with it and it is really good. Also use it on my 690

That stuff is the bomb but its not cheap

[Fuzzy Muzzy]

Is chain lube realy necessary ? I can't recall ever seen on a x-ring or o-ring packet that it is a requirement to lube the chain. Has anybody ever tried to fit a chain, ride it without lube and see how long it would last ?

I've stopped lubing my chain, and from visual inspection and chain tension requirements it seems like it is actually lasting longer.

I do however ride mostly off-road, and any lube on a chain just turns to grinding paste if it ingests dust. With lube the sprocket surfaces turn shiny and polished from wear, without lube they stay dull.

Ever watch the Dakar? Those riders with bikes at the top of their offroad game with factory teams who know their shit.

I watch them in the biv and they lube their chains after the rider comes in and they are maintaining the bike.

I think most okes will follow the pros and what they do to maintain their bike. The whole idea of grinding paste on chains is so 80's when thick oil was used... with the invention of chain wax and other dry lubes that paste you speak of should never exist.. also , guys forget to lube their chain then lube it right before riding, then they get their chains all gunky because they use the wrong product or they use motor oil then go ride in dust.

makes no sense to not lube a chain correctly.

[BuRP]

A man needs to lube his chain well and often.

Hear hear, words of wisdom - and very true too!
Don't think you can lube it too often even! 

With all the talk about grinding paste issuing a warning here is in order: Do not dip your freshly lubed chain in beach-sand for you will pick up some abrasives, and believe me you will notice these! 

[BikerJan]

This is another angle worth looking at.
https://youtu.be/VnPYdcbcAe0

I was sent this some time ago as well and I agree with him.

Wurth’s dry lube was also introduced to me about a year or so ago and been using it since, after every wash, wet ride and whenever necessary.  I however have no idea how long my chain or sprockets last.  I find the pleasure of riding as you want far outweighing the replacement cost.

A bit like tyres I guess.

I also use Wurth dry lube, as per our recommendation Kobus, after 17 000 km's my chain and sprocket still look brand new.

[big oil]

WD-40 = Water Displacement - Fortieth Attempt

75% of the can is Aliphatic Hydrocarbon Solvents = AHS examples are; hexane, octane, pentane, iso-pentane, mineral spirits, petroleum distillates, petroleum naphtha, cyclohexane, etc.  Imo, these AH's will displace the factory chain grease on an o-ring chain, substantially shortening the life of the chain.  AHS's are used to make gasoline.

22% is Petroleum Base Oil = Dinosaur Oil =  lubricity

2-3% of the can = CO2 = Carbon Dioxide.

LVP Aliphatic Hydrocarbon
1200 mg/m3

Petroleum Base Oil
5 mg/m3 TWA (Inhalable) ACGIH TLV (as Mineral oil) 5 mg/m3 TWA OSHA PEL (as Oil mist, mineral)

Aliphatic Hydrocarbon
1200 mg/m3 TWA

Carbon Dioxide
5000 ppm TWA, 30,000 ppm STEL ACGIH TLV 5000 ppm TWA OSHA PEL

I'm a fan of dry PTFE lubricants for my chains.

USA WD-40 MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) = https://files.wd40.com/pdf/sds/mup/wd-40-multi-use-product-aerosol-low-voc-sds-us-ghs.pdf

[m0lt3n]

interesting ^

Did you try it though?

[Cracker]

Dry lube sounds so anal ................

[eberhard]

Then you are doing it wrong.

[johanp]

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I've been using gearbox oil for a couple of months now, and so far, so good. The only downside is that you can't really take it on a trip with you, so for that, I'll be using spray lube.
I'm pretty much done with wax and the buildup it creates.

[Roxtar]

I commute daily, best I have used to date is BelRay BlueTac (White) and MOTUL Adventure, does not fling off and dries to a white covering quickly... I usually apply late afternoon and let dry overnight before riding next day 

[TrailBlazer]

I was clearing a corner of a shed a while back... a corner that was seldom visited, and came across a tin of Duckhams chain lube. The tin was like an old cake tin, about 35cm across and 10cm deep. It had to be heated on a hotplate or gas stove, and the cleaned chain dropped into the liquid gunk.
After a while the chain was pulled out and hung up to drain the excess, after which it was put back on the bike. I used this on my scrambler in the very early '80's.

[big oil]

interesting ^

Did you try it though?

Yes, it’s cheap here, I used it on non o-ring dirt-bike chains, when I was single digit age.

[ultraflight]

Lube is for unsealed chains.
All our modern chains have O-Ring or X-Ring or similar seals, that seal in the factory lube, to keep it where lubrication is required. You cannot add any lube inside those seals, so any lube you put on the chain is wasted and totally unnecessary.
So why do bike shops stock chain lube?
Because bikers ask for it! Why would they say no to a lucrative market?
But also because most racing bikes do not use sealed chains and they do need to be lubed frequently, so the dealers stock various chain lubes for that market segment. For adventure bikes, spend your money where its more needed.
If you want to give your chain some TLC, take it off the bike and soak it in diesel. Or brush some diesel onto the chain to clean off the muck... and by the way, diesel is a good lubricant too, just in case you still feel its needed.