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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #60 on: November 04, 2014, 02:56:32 pm »
Although... I have to say I wouldn't want an automatic (DCT)......
Look closely :-/
DCT switches and no clutch lever.



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HONDA AFRICA TWIN 2015 Prototype - first pictures video
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #61 on: November 04, 2014, 03:20:44 pm »
Shake 'n Bake!
 

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #62 on: November 04, 2014, 03:37:06 pm »
1000cc paralel twin
100hp
200kg wet
20l feul
250mm suspension
I like.
 

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #63 on: November 04, 2014, 03:39:45 pm »
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #64 on: November 04, 2014, 03:47:11 pm »
1000cc paralel twin
100hp
200kg wet
20l feul
250mm suspension
I like.

I'll bet money it won't be a 1 litre twin @ 200kg. One of those have got to give. I'd rather they make it a 750cc 85hp (which is enough if we're honest) and keep the weight down.

Time will tell, but I'm pleasantly surprised by Honda going in what is clearly the right direction.
 

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #65 on: November 04, 2014, 04:22:01 pm »
LOVE IT!
Finally Honda seems to be going in the right direction!
I for one would also prefer less weight even if it means less cc's and hp.
I seriously doubt you will get any weight savings by going 750cc vs 1000cc though.
Still...
Bravo HONDA!!!
 

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #66 on: November 04, 2014, 04:25:50 pm »
Sorry Chaps, I do not think that this does ANY justice to the original Africa Twin.  :dousing:
 

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« Reply #67 on: November 04, 2014, 04:32:43 pm »
I really hope it doesn't - the old AT must be one of the most overestimated bikes in the history. Underpowered, undersprung, overweight boring pig. I'm talking 750 that I had, I've heard 650 was better.

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #68 on: November 04, 2014, 04:39:21 pm »
It's basically a BMW F800GS/KTM990 made by Honda though...which will be perfect.
Hopefully it ways less than the F800GS which is 214kg's fueled and ready to ride. So it will be interesting to see Honda's weight.
I BET that that is a 1000cc P.Twin as the engine looks bigger than the BMW's P.Twin by comparing pics.

Front wheel is 21" with ABS as well. I'm sure it will have some sort of traction control system to compete with BMW.
The tank looks like it takes less fuel unless they are also going to put the tank under the seat :)
I'm thinking it will be around 210 fueled bearing in mind it has a smaller capacity tank.

But I really really like the prototype and I'm happily surprised that Honda did not disappoint.


If you look closely at the photographs you will see the air intake under the seat, so definitely no fuel tank there.
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #69 on: November 04, 2014, 04:41:40 pm »
It's basically a BMW F800GS/KTM990 made by Honda though...which will be perfect.
Hopefully it ways less than the F800GS which is 214kg's fueled and ready to ride. So it will be interesting to see Honda's weight.
I BET that that is a 1000cc P.Twin as the engine looks bigger than the BMW's P.Twin by comparing pics.

Front wheel is 21" with ABS as well. I'm sure it will have some sort of traction control system to compete with BMW.
The tank looks like it takes less fuel unless they are also going to put the tank under the seat :)
I'm thinking it will be around 210 fueled bearing in mind it has a smaller capacity tank.

But I really really like the prototype and I'm happily surprised that Honda did not disappoint.


If you look closely at the photographs you will see the air intake under the seat, so definitely no fuel tank there.
Well, it might have a 20 liter tank with a 22km/l fuel consumption which will push you over 400km.. That in my mind is enough.
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« Reply #70 on: November 04, 2014, 04:44:20 pm »
Will the production models also come standard with spray-on mud?
Why do things that only happen to stupid people always happen to me?
 

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #71 on: November 04, 2014, 04:50:12 pm »
Will the production models also come standard with spray-on mud?
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #72 on: November 04, 2014, 04:52:05 pm »
Finally!!!
 

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« Reply #73 on: November 04, 2014, 05:05:48 pm »
And the rumored weight and power is 100 HP (out of 1000 cc parallel twin) and 200 kg fully fueled - which is a lot, but still less than Tenere.

that would be awesome. 200kg fully fueled is not heavy compared to most
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #74 on: November 04, 2014, 05:30:25 pm »
My order is in! :3some: :thumleft:
To who. . . . . .the Big Man upstairs.  :imaposer:
Arriving in 3-4 months time!

Not sure about that. A dutch dude on advrider who seems to be well informed said press release March/April (in Moroco) and in shops September 2015.

 :sip: And 3-4 months from now is............ :3some:
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #75 on: November 04, 2014, 05:32:09 pm »
It's basically a BMW F800GS/KTM990 made by Honda though...which will be perfect.
Hopefully it ways less than the F800GS which is 214kg's fueled and ready to ride. So it will be interesting to see Honda's weight.
I BET that that is a 1000cc P.Twin as the engine looks bigger than the BMW's P.Twin by comparing pics.

Front wheel is 21" with ABS as well. I'm sure it will have some sort of traction control system to compete with BMW.
The tank looks like it takes less fuel unless they are also going to put the tank under the seat :)
I'm thinking it will be around 210 fueled bearing in mind it has a smaller capacity tank.

But I really really like the prototype and I'm happily surprised that Honda did not disappoint.


If you look closely at the photographs you will see the air intake under the seat, so definitely no fuel tank there.

Agreed. I meant more if this aint final but imho it wont happen.

Here is my thoughts of what I think they are going to reveal.

900cc - 1000cc making about 90 ish hp with really nice torque figures...looking at that engine it looks quite a bit bigger than the F800's 800cc P.Twin... a Parallel Twin is quite compact and that looks quite a bit bigger unless they couldn't design it smaller...which I doubt.
15 litre tank - 220kg's fully fueled ready to go in the DCT / ABS version. I think they will probably have 2 versions a DCT and a Manual..
Imho thats what we are going to get here. I can't see it being lighter than the Vstrom DL1000 and that has an aliminium frame 19" front. That sits at 207kg's  Dry so add about 3kg's for oils and +- 18kg's for fuel and you are sitting at +- 228kg's ready to go.
Ok a P.Twin is lighter than a Vtwin but still. I would be suprised if they can get it near the F800   Dry weight of 185kg 191kg.

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #76 on: November 04, 2014, 05:43:33 pm »
I really hope it doesn't - the old AT must be one of the most overestimated bikes in the history. Underpowered, undersprung, overweight boring pig. I'm talking 750 that I had, I've heard 650 was better.


 :sip: Jeezzz Xpat, you're going to be taken out, you can't say things like that about the AT, it's a cult bike, religion, you know. I'm also not allowed to say that the bike (GS 1200) that I rode to have a tire fitted as a favour for a friend is the WORST bike I have had the honour to ride.
In absolutely every way. I'll rather not elaborate on that.
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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #77 on: November 04, 2014, 06:27:46 pm »
Aha!!


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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #78 on: November 04, 2014, 06:31:26 pm »
My order is in! :3some: :thumleft:
To who. . . . . .the Big Man upstairs.  :imaposer:
Arriving in 3-4 months time!

Not sure about that. A dutch dude on advrider who seems to be well informed said press release March/April (in Moroco) and in shops September 2015.

 :sip: And 3-4 months from now is............ :3some:

Depends on the definition of 'arriving'. If the info I posted is correct, I would expect it to be available in SA late next year or beginning of 2016.

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Re: New Africa Twin ITS REAL!!!!!!!
« Reply #79 on: November 04, 2014, 06:36:46 pm »
I really hope it doesn't - the old AT must be one of the most overestimated bikes in the history. Underpowered, undersprung, overweight boring pig. I'm talking 750 that I had, I've heard 650 was better.


 :sip: Jeezzz Xpat, you're going to be taken out, you can't say things like that about the AT, it's a cult bike, religion, you know. I'm also not allowed to say that the bike (GS 1200) that I rode to have a tire fitted as a favour for a friend is the WORST bike I have had the honour to ride.
In absolutely every way. I'll rather not elaborate on that.
I had a Transalp before, bit under powered, but reliable, heavy on fuel. :3some:

I agree that the old AT was more name than bike, and that the 650 TA was actually a more capable bike. What made the AT so popular is reliability for the time, being one of the first real purposely build DS bikes with reliability that matched. The old AT is more name than bike but great for the time. We are going forward now, bikes are also evolving slowly into what the markets wants and let me be the asshole to say this on this thread again: 'SA is not the market, we get what the European and USA markets want'. If we were to design a DS bike to the liking's of SA DS Bikers it would have been 170kg fueled, 100hp and bla bla bla.....but we are not major role players because we are a very small market down here.....we get what they offer us and then we spent a shitload in aftermarket parts like progressive springs etc to get it to perform the way we would like it to do