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Offline Ross Riddle

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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2014, 10:17:46 am »
I am keen, however it depends!
So keen to get involved but need to start working on the bike and the fitness!
Would be nice to  meet up with all the other KZN WD that are interested and try work on bikes together, spilt costs, look for some sponsorship??
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2014, 05:52:46 pm »
It was an awesome event again this year.

I heard some guys grumble about needing some big bucks for equipment. In the R200k range. Tell that to Cracker and Loopsoosstroop. Guys like Gideon and Kobie just added roadbooks.

If you want to race, then nothing less than a 450 RR or similar will do. If you want to ride to enjoy, get as fit as the bike you own. Big price difference between the 2 options.

Eddie had the biggest bike there, but Rudi and Andrew's bikes are both heavier. And all 3 of them arrived in CT.

No need to lay out too much on the kit, so start saving for the entry.
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2014, 07:40:15 pm »
It was an awesome event again this year.

I heard some guys grumble about needing some big bucks for equipment. In the R200k range. Tell that to Cracker and Loopsoosstroop. Guys like Gideon and Kobie just added roadbooks.

If you want to race, then nothing less than a 450 RR or similar will do. If you want to ride to enjoy, get as fit as the bike you own. Big price difference between the 2 options.

Eddie had the biggest bike there, but Rudi and Andrew's bikes are both heavier. And all 3 of them arrived in CT.

No need to lay out too much on the kit, so start saving for the entry.


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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2014, 09:33:00 pm »
My team mates are all buying new bikes already, so take that as a vote of confidence!
Yip, starting bike development early this time. just need to get that bike.
WR sold, but it will be at the next amageza again with its new owner!
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2014, 09:46:21 pm »
While people are talking about trackers and stuff. I wonder if there will be 2 options next year... "Social" I mean as in not necessarily out there to win the thing....same as this year- GPS...cheap tracker.... And then a more serious: ...Dakar spec trackers and accurate times etc? Just a thought.
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #25 on: November 17, 2014, 09:49:57 pm »
7 DAYS!?!?!     Excellent!!!   

See you all there next year!!!    :deal:
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #26 on: November 17, 2014, 09:55:04 pm »
5 days was a good event. 6 days maybe. But as soon as you go for more than 1 week, amageza will loose entries. many people cannot afford to take 2 weeks leave. and then the increased cost and entry fee for the much longer race... keep it at 1 week for now  :thumleft:
there can be your social race @ 1 week, the serious racers can do another week...  :ricky:
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #27 on: November 17, 2014, 09:56:58 pm »
My team mates are all buying new bikes already, so take that as a vote of confidence!
Yip, starting bike development early this time. just need to get that bike.
WR sold, but it will be at the next amageza again with its new owner!
 :ricky:

Big shoes to fill.
Haven't been this excited in a long time  :ricky:
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #28 on: November 17, 2014, 09:58:35 pm »
5 days was a good event. 6 days maybe. But as soon as you go for more than 1 week, amageza will loose entries. many people cannot afford to take 2 weeks leave. and then the increased cost and entry fee for the much longer race... keep it at 1 week for now  :thumleft:
there can be your social race @ 1 week, the serious racers can do another week...  :ricky:
Good Idea

Let the racers do the first week and tire them out, then allow us weekend warriors to come and chase them  ;D :ricky:
 

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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #29 on: November 18, 2014, 06:40:28 am »
My team mates are all buying new bikes already, so take that as a vote of confidence!
Yip, starting bike development early this time. just need to get that bike.
WR sold, but it will be at the next amageza again with its new owner!
 :ricky:

Big shoes to fill.
Haven't been this excited in a long time  :ricky:
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #30 on: November 18, 2014, 07:18:00 am »
Maybe.  Depends on the length.  And whether my 690 will be able to make a 3rd one.
 

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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #31 on: November 18, 2014, 12:09:13 pm »
While people are talking about trackers and stuff. I wonder if there will be 2 options next year... "Social" I mean as in not necessarily out there to win the thing....same as this year- GPS...cheap tracker.... And then a more serious: ...Dakar spec trackers and accurate times etc? Just a thought.


Very interesting thought.

Although the times came out a little late, I believe they were quite accurate. Maybe just change the penalty for not submitting a track to race card times plus max penalty given to the naughtiest rider on the stage, instead of max time plus an hour.

Alex is still building on this event. The final event will be 14 days, and only by then can we expect him to have all the teething issues sorted. Amageza is still being built.

Alex and Steve put a lot of hours in after the event to fine tune the marking software. It would be a pity if all that time spent goes to waste.

Another option maybe to rent a standard GPS all set up and tracking exactly the same across the board, with the rider providing a back up unit if he prefers.

If your Dakar supplied unit fails, they just say tough shit, you are starting at the back of the pack the next day. Its unfortunately part of the game.
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #32 on: November 18, 2014, 04:42:58 pm »
Renting a GPS or similar is the same as using your own - no point if you already have one.

They all work the same.

My primary GPS gave me a zero on day 3 coz of holes in the track yet my backup had the whole track recorded - identical models, both running on batteries.

 
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #33 on: November 18, 2014, 04:57:58 pm »
You would be surprised how different they record. Some on main memory, some on cards, some on memory and then a bit on the card as well. The Zumos have no interval settings and records as you change direction, the old units and the voyagers needed card readers (some of the card adapters also failed) etc.

One thing where they all were the same, was that each model had one or more failures, with the etrex 10 and the foretrex being the most problematic.

It took a lot of man hours to download 70 plus units every day and then triple check any problem units.

A standard unit with standardised recording would make a huge difference.
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2014, 05:01:31 pm »
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2014, 05:03:59 pm »
We had a rider from East London. Not sure if he is a WD. Would be good to take him for a beer.
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2014, 05:18:37 pm »
You would be surprised how different they record. Some on main memory, some on cards, some on memory and then a bit on the card as well. The Zumos have no interval settings and records as you change direction, the old units and the voyagers needed card readers (some of the card adapters also failed) etc.

One thing where they all were the same, was that each model had one or more failures, with the etrex 10 and the foretrex being the most problematic.

It took a lot of man hours to download 70 plus units every day and then triple check any problem units.

A standard unit with standardised recording would make a huge difference.

The Zumo as far as I recall you can make record on a per second basis as well, but that being said it is a pain to make it work. - There are functions that is hidden in a lot of these GPS's but it is a slep to manage as it changes with software versions. So not really a solution for this kind of thing.
 

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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #37 on: November 18, 2014, 05:24:51 pm »
You would be surprised how different they record. Some on main memory, some on cards, some on memory and then a bit on the card as well. The Zumos have no interval settings and records as you change direction, the old units and the voyagers needed card readers (some of the card adapters also failed) etc.

One thing where they all were the same, was that each model had one or more failures, with the etrex 10 and the foretrex being the most problematic.

It took a lot of man hours to download 70 plus units every day and then triple check any problem units.

A standard unit with standardised recording would make a huge difference.

The Zumo as far as I recall you can make record on a per second basis as well, but that being said it is a pain to make it work. - There are functions that is hidden in a lot of these GPS's but it is a slep to manage as it changes with software versions. So not really a solution for this kind of thing.

Garmin has eventually standardised their menus sort of. Except with the Zumos. I had a lot of gps studying to do after last year. Then some guys surprised me with voyagers.

It would be interesting what alternatives Alex will come up with. Technology is moving at a pace.
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #38 on: November 18, 2014, 06:52:48 pm »
What's needed for the organisers is a GPS that tracks as they want AND sends out a signal like the trackers we used - something we can carry and forget about.

we can then use our own GPS for what we need - waypoints, headings, etc
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Re: Amageza 2015 Its not too early is it?
« Reply #39 on: November 18, 2014, 07:10:52 pm »
I'm in - my rider needs to find a new pit bitch

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