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Offline Bill the Bong

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #120 on: July 02, 2015, 12:48:23 pm »
Not selling, its a fully sorted rallye bike.  Why would one?
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #121 on: July 02, 2015, 12:58:07 pm »
Remember that we are comparing it to the xrr, not an Amageza 450
Wager a guess how many baja 1000 pre-runs and events JCR did on a single XRR motor?

Reliability wise, they are chalk and cheese
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #122 on: July 02, 2015, 01:15:53 pm »
One thing I've noticed, is that most new 690 owners believe they're Dakar material. You fit the rally fairing, do a few pushups and there you go. The Amageza soon helps with this misconception.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #123 on: July 02, 2015, 01:36:57 pm »
6 pages of furiously defending the KTM 690..... My word! This is getting like a BMW site  :pot:  >:D

Without the recalls.

yeah the owners have to fix it themselves.
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #124 on: July 02, 2015, 01:38:27 pm »
One thing I've noticed, is that most new 690 owners believe they're Dakar material. You fit the rally fairing, do a few pushups and there you go. The Amageza soon helps with this misconception.

It's tough enough just to get to the starting line of Amageza. I respect every single person who gets that far  :deal:
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #125 on: July 02, 2015, 02:20:15 pm »
One thing I've noticed, is that most new 690 owners believe they're Dakar material. You fit the rally fairing, do a few pushups and there you go. The Amageza soon helps with this misconception.

You obviously speak out of experience.  There is no beating that.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #126 on: July 02, 2015, 02:27:55 pm »
Unfortunately not. Only a observation, that seems to hit home.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #127 on: July 02, 2015, 02:34:08 pm »
Unfortunately not. Only a observation, that seems to hit home.

Amageza is 7 days this year.  There is only 1 rallye that is longer.  There is still some time for you to enter.  Then there will be no need for misconceptions.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #128 on: July 02, 2015, 02:58:16 pm »
Unfortunately not. Only a observation, that seems to hit home.

Amageza is 7 days this year.  There is only 1 rallye that is longer.  There is still some time for you to enter.  Then there will be no need for misconceptions.


No misconception this side. Good luck to yourself and the rest of 690 dakar tigers. Have fun!

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #129 on: July 02, 2015, 03:08:33 pm »
Mmm
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #130 on: July 02, 2015, 03:13:33 pm »
I am probably the type he's refering to. I did a few pushups before Amageza and rode with a hangover on most days. I like to believe I can do dakar too but before that I'd probably do a few sit ups as well. So he does have a point  :imaposer:
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #131 on: July 02, 2015, 03:29:27 pm »
Some very honest and open debate here until someone with a 1200 GS got involved :laughing4: :laughing4: :laughing4:









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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #132 on: July 02, 2015, 03:32:26 pm »
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #133 on: July 02, 2015, 03:40:27 pm »
I am probably the type he's refering to. I did a few pushups before Amageza and rode with a hangover on most days. I like to believe I can do dakar too but before that I'd probably do a few sit ups as well. So he does have a point  :imaposer:

Respect, I did a race once on a 530 with a moerse hangover. It was in 40+ degree heat, that was the first and last time, its very hard cleaning puke out of a helmet..  :lol8:

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #134 on: July 02, 2015, 05:46:05 pm »
My 690 only comes out the month or so before Amageza.  The 12 000 odd km was essentially either Amageza or training/set-up runs.  I don't change the oil midway through the race and change the air filter after 3 - 4 days.  I've drowned it twice during big water crossings.  Still runs like a top.  Its essentially stone-axe reliable.

I'm expecting to be able to rent this bike out as an Amageza bike for at least 3 more years after this year's event before I need to look at rebuilding the motor.

Not many bikes that will do that.

You have done 12000kms, it could be just a tad early to talk about stone-ax reliability.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #135 on: July 02, 2015, 05:48:08 pm »
I am probably the type he's refering to. I did a few pushups before Amageza and rode with a hangover on most days. I like to believe I can do dakar too but before that I'd probably do a few sit ups as well. So he does have a point  :imaposer:

Respect, I did a race once on a 530 with a moerse hangover. It was in 40+ degree heat, that was the first and last time, its very hard cleaning puke out of a helmet..  :lol8:



I remember lying under a trailer once, hiding from the sun, during a riders briefing - jeez, I felt kak - did one loop of an enduro that took me the whole day ..............never again!!!

If you don't drink on the Amageza, then you gotta race - drinking is easier

If I'd had a 690, though - it would have been different  >:D
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #136 on: July 02, 2015, 07:20:15 pm »
My 690 only comes out the month or so before Amageza.  The 12 000 odd km was essentially either Amageza or training/set-up runs.  I don't change the oil midway through the race and change the air filter after 3 - 4 days.  I've drowned it twice during big water crossings.  Still runs like a top.  Its essentially stone-axe reliable.

I'm expecting to be able to rent this bike out as an Amageza bike for at least 3 more years after this year's event before I need to look at rebuilding the motor.

Not many bikes that will do that.

You have done 12000kms, it could be just a tad early to talk about stone-ax reliability.

But is it better than a Yamaha?  :pot:
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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #137 on: July 02, 2015, 07:43:25 pm »
My 690 only comes out the month or so before Amageza.  The 12 000 odd km was essentially either Amageza or training/set-up runs.  I don't change the oil midway through the race and change the air filter after 3 - 4 days.  I've drowned it twice during big water crossings.  Still runs like a top.  Its essentially stone-axe reliable.

I'm expecting to be able to rent this bike out as an Amageza bike for at least 3 more years after this year's event before I need to look at rebuilding the motor.

Not many bikes that will do that.

You have done 12000kms, it could be just a tad early to talk about stone-ax reliability.

I hear you.  The point is it has never done commuting duty or touring.  Just about every km was either racing or associated with racing.  And while I have seen guys on 990s tour faster that I race, racing brings unique stresses, and with Amageza, lack of daily maintenance, due to coming in way after dark or through being either to tired or damaged to care.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #138 on: July 03, 2015, 07:37:37 am »
My 690 only comes out the month or so before Amageza.  The 12 000 odd km was essentially either Amageza or training/set-up runs.  I don't change the oil midway through the race and change the air filter after 3 - 4 days.  I've drowned it twice during big water crossings.  Still runs like a top.  Its essentially stone-axe reliable.

I'm expecting to be able to rent this bike out as an Amageza bike for at least 3 more years after this year's event before I need to look at rebuilding the motor.

Not many bikes that will do that.

You have done 12000kms, it could be just a tad early to talk about stone-ax reliability.

But is it better than a Yamaha?  :pot:

 :imaposer:, well, in a manner of speaking, yes it is better than a Yamaha, but only in as much that you cannot buy a Yamaha in the 690's class of bike. If Yamaha had a WR650-ish bike, I would not be on a 690.
 

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Re: Why so many KTM 690's for Sale?
« Reply #139 on: July 03, 2015, 07:57:00 am »
I think you're right there - that would put a whole lot more 690s on the market  ;D
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