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Offline zollie

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HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« on: November 24, 2014, 10:36:36 am »
 ???

Anyone else seen this happen with their HEIDENAU K60 Scout's?

Was traveling Saturday past from Citrusdal back home, when this happend just before Gouda at the new wind farm past Porterville..

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6 000 km ~ on the rear... not much impressed, waiting to hear back from the "local agents" ...
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2014, 10:38:21 am »
That must've been exciting.
I have seen this happen on a Heidi before but not often. Hope the agent helps you out or at least gives you decent feedback.
 

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2014, 10:43:27 am »
Looks like something external started that off.  Area circled in red.

Whatever the cause, Bike Gear is the agent so you can be sure of decent feedback and resolution to this.

Would it not have been a good idea to bring this up with the agent first before posting here?
« Last Edit: November 24, 2014, 10:49:10 am by Jughead »
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2014, 10:46:33 am »
I wont complain if I get 6000Km :)

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2014, 10:47:57 am »
Going to be watching the outcome of this one.  :sip:
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2014, 10:50:09 am »
 :o :sip:
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2014, 10:54:58 am »
What pressure were you running .............

I have now about 11 000 k's on mine and still good for another 2 to 3 000 k's and I am running at minimum 2.7 bar unladen and 3.0 bar laden .................
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2014, 11:01:11 am »
What pressure were you running .............

I have now about 11 000 k's on mine and still good for another 2 to 3 000 k's and I am running at minimum 2.7 bar unladen and 3.0 bar laden .................

I was running 2.5 with a 42kg passenger and about ~10kg of lightweight luggage - only went away for a 1 night stay over so had minimal baggage.

Was hot though, reached 35 C in Citrusdal, around the same in Gouda . Got to 40 C in Wellington (when we eventually got there...) ...

Rode about with the tire till Wellington (@ around 40km/h) where we then got picked up with a trailer..
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2014, 11:14:03 am »
Wow!!

Never seen that happen - I did 20,000km on my last rear K60S, so I put another one on a few months ago - I hope this is an isolated incident?

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2014, 11:17:42 am »
Heidies have an excellent reputation and I'm wondering if there was not some external damage done prior to that chunk coming off?  Looks serious though.  Be interested to hear the agent/manufacturer feedback
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2014, 11:22:43 am »
Wow!!

Never seen that happen - I did 20,000km on my last rear K60S, so I put another one on a few months ago - I hope this is an isolated incident?

 :o

W...T...F...

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2014, 11:25:40 am »
Nice :bueller:
 

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2014, 11:29:25 am »
Not sure if this is related to a bad batch, but seems there are more of "us" out there...

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=966992

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2014, 12:23:35 pm »
just a question, but should the tread delaminate like that????
looks like a manufacturing problem to me?????
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2014, 01:07:49 pm »

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W...T...F...

I got barely 6000 km out of my last one :o
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6000?????   :o  Most guys get no less than 10 000. Highest I've seen is 23 000 on a Super Ten.
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2014, 01:24:20 pm »


W...T...F...

I got barely 6000 km out of my last one :o
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6000?????   :o  Most guys get no less than 10 000. Highest I've seen is 23 000 on a Super Ten.
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I am fairly confident the right wrist action on dirt has an amount to do with it?
My nephew did about 10k km on a set, but the last 7000km were dirt in Namibia - trashed the tire!
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2014, 02:15:50 pm »
I was fitting new rubber on my Tiger on Saturday morning in Boksburg when a guy came into the dealership with the exact same issue on a Heidenau rear tyre. Tread pattern looks the same as the one in the pics. Dealer swopped the tyre out with a Bridgestone for the guy to get him back on the road and said he would be sending it back to the agents for a claim given that it hadn't done much mileage.


Tyres shouldn't delaminate like that .
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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #17 on: November 24, 2014, 03:20:13 pm »


16500kms on my last K60

Best tyres ever !!!

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2014, 03:33:54 pm »
 :sip:
 

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Re: HEIDENAU K60 Scout
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2014, 03:35:14 pm »
There are many possible causes  for a tyre to fail  and could include:

1. Not inflating to the manufactures recommended pressure. This is the most prevalent reason for failure as it causes de-vulcanisation.

De-vulcanisation is the chemo-mechanical process which causes the tyre compound to break down, mainly through heat build-up due to under-inflation. Heat build up is by far the major contributor to any failure of this nature .

Most bike tyres of this ilk are also biased ply in their construction which causes them to also  run a lot hotter than a steel belt tyre.

It is for this reason that manufactures recommend a specific tyre pressure for a given load and it is vitally important to adhere to this

2. A structural  defect at manufacture .  

3. Damage due to road conditions eg. A cut or tear from a sharp object.

We do note that this tyre was run under load , at high temperatures below  the manufacturers recommended tyre pressure of 3.0 Bar

It would make no sense for us to speculate as to the cause in this instance or to jump to any conclusions even if run under the recommended pressure.

The best would be  for this tyre to be evaluated by the manufacturers in their lab and we will forward it to Germany for this.

Wessel, the poster of this thread has been in contact with us and we will do our utmost to resolve this issue.

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It will be resolved to the satisfaction of all concerned.

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