Author Topic: The Lane splitting threads - Legal or not? (Read 3495 times)

Ama ride ride · « **on:** June 21, 2006, 09:14:46 am »

:?

Can the wise men of our forum please explain the legal or not legal bit about lane splitting. :oops:

Rebel · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2006, 09:44:13 am »

i dont use my ADV in the city much, as the N1 doesnt have
enough dirt

but...I have done it many times, passing cops and nobody
has ever said anything...

If its illegal, the cops dont really mind.
Just dont drive like a hooligan, and they will leave you alone.

Ama ride ride · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2006, 10:26:32 am »

Quote from: "michnus"

It is legal

Can you provide proof or anything that its legal? A BMW forum member was stopped but let off with a warning not do do it again.....

LiveInTheOutdoors · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2006, 10:26:36 am »

Quote from: "michnus"

It is legal

Let me clarify, after being pulled off (make that almost ridden off) by the cops.

It IS legal to lane split (I read it with him in the rule book these buggers carry), if the vehicles are stationary.

If they are not, you are expected to rejoin the lane as a normal vehicle.

Of course we have all lane split past cops, I have done it in heavy traffic with no number plate on and they look at me and cant do jack cos of the traffic. Not worth the mess and fuss.

So there you have it: from the book.

michnus · « **Reply #4 on:** June 21, 2006, 10:48:05 am »

Here it is from the book:

http://www.acts.co.za/rt_nrta/index.htm

National Road Traffic Act, 1996
National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999
Chapter X : Rules of the road and matters relating thereto
Part I : Rules of the road
309. Duties relating to motor cycle, motor tricycle or motor quadrucycle
6)

a) Persons, other than traffic officers in the performance of their duties, driving motor cycles on a public road, shall drive in single file except in the course of overtaking another motor cycle, and two or more persons driving motor cycles shall not overtake another vehicle at the same time: Provided that where a public road is divided into traffic lanes, each such lane shall, for the purposes of this paragraph, be regarded as a public road.

EXPLANATION:

A motorcycle may treat each lane as a public road, i.e. may overtake another vehicle on that road. (in that lane

macduff · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2006, 12:01:50 pm »

there was a similar topic on the Think Bike forum recently, also with a copy of the exact wording. lets wait for droffarc, as i think it was him who posted it.
my understanding of it says lane splitting is illegal.

my experience:
i was travelling on the safety shoulder during a traffic jam (slow moving vehicles) and got k*kked out by a cop who came up behind me. he went ballistic. i apologised, moved to do lane splitting, and he gave me a thumbs up. i believe its the mood of the day which will determine what can/will be done about it.

Ama ride ride · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2006, 12:24:12 pm »

Hi Duffy......missing you....

Its funny how experienced bikers and persons become comfused on what is legal and what is not.

But one thing seem to stand out and it is the fact that cops do what they are ordered for that day of what they are in the mood for. :?

but speed trapping is the ONLT thing they do flat out, every day..

LiveInTheOutdoors · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2006, 01:12:51 pm »

Quote from: "Ama ride ride"

Its funny how experienced bikers and persons become comfused on what is legal and what is not.

whats interesting for me is that I read a different bookie that the cop had and he gave me advice which is inconsistent what Macdufff was told.

that smacks of the inconsistency within our law and or traffic policing policy.

Leo · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2006, 01:14:15 pm »

Few years ago our offices was on Witkoppen, just off Rivonia, so I travelled the N1 every day.
One day I'm spitting lanes, cars moving at 20 km'h max, so me sitting comfortably between them.
Just past Allandal, this Koeltekont jumps inbetween the lanes - right infront of me and promptly continues with checking my bike for roadworthyness.
I was k@kking myself - standing still and cars passing on either side, but the f$%^ KK had to check my license, vehicle disk, numberpalte & all.

Eventually after about 5 min's off I go - no fine! Hectic

droffarc · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2006, 01:37:37 pm »

Quote from: "michnus"

Here it is from the book:

http://www.acts.co.za/rt_nrta/index.htm

National Road Traffic Act, 1996
National Road Traffic Regulations, 1999
Chapter X : Rules of the road and matters relating thereto
Part I : Rules of the road
309. Duties relating to motor cycle, motor tricycle or motor quadrucycle
6)

a) Persons, other than traffic officers in the performance of their duties, driving motor cycles on a public road, shall drive in single file except in the course of overtaking another motor cycle, and two or more persons driving motor cycles shall not overtake another vehicle at the same time: Provided that where a public road is divided into traffic lanes, each such lane shall, for the purposes of this paragraph, be regarded as a public road.

EXPLANATION:

A motorcycle may treat each lane as a public road, i.e. may overtake another vehicle on that road. (in that lane

What Macduff is refering to had to do with standing on the peggies. There is always another interpretation of the law, that is why lawyers are so well heeled.

and you and I are so poor.

tsiklonaut · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2006, 01:51:20 pm »

That's me in everyday communiting home-school-work-home on ma low centre of gravity and the best cornering bike i ever had, the telelever equipped 1100 GS. The bike is so well planted and it goes so easy in the curves that you can do it even hands free or with just a little needed with one hand on very sharp curves, scratching the tar with footpegs and with other hand doing the pic:

I am splitting the line with just a little with handlebars and me helmet maybe

Been banned from another (twat) forum coz of this pic. I DID checked the traffic on other directions before did it and i know the road throughoutly. The idea is the white line to give the sense of the angle that the "invisible" tar doesn't.

Splitting the line is banned here too, if it's a solid white line :roll:

But curves and solid white lines doesn't fit together in terms of motorcycle riding fun.

Anyone ever driven in Alps? There's lot of slolid white lines and almost every bloody biker ignores them if there's nobody coming on other direction or if the curve isn't blind enough like the one on my pic. They even start taking the curves fully from other directions :roll: Doing niiiicccceeee smoooooooth curves and enjoying the ride.

droffarc · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2006, 02:11:42 pm »

Um.... :?: :!: :?:

tsiklonaut · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2006, 02:16:51 pm »

Or SA has a left hand traffic then? :shock:

Maverick · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2006, 02:25:18 pm »

Quote from: "tsiklonaut"

Or SA has a left hand traffic then? :shock:

Yes mate we ride on the correct side of the road

I wanted to say right side but that would make no sense now would it :? Same as the UK.

tsiklonaut · « **Reply #14 on:** June 21, 2006, 02:28:12 pm »

We drive-ride on the RIGHT side of the road

Maverick · « **Reply #15 on:** June 21, 2006, 02:33:10 pm »

Quote from: "tsiklonaut"

We drive-ride on the RIGHT side of the road

Which is very confusing if you used riding on the LEFT side of the road. Nearly took myself out in France two years ago after turning into the road one morning and heading down a small country lane on the left side. Could not figure out why the oncoming car was not moving out of my lane and flashing lights untill Mrs Maverick shouted we should be in the right hand lane

I see on both sides of the ferries in Europe and UK they have massive signs reminding you in about 30 different languages which side of the road to use

surf · « **Reply #16 on:** May 17, 2007, 12:58:27 pm »

Ok, still no-one can give me the correct answer. Is it legal or illegal in SA :?:

What I would like to know is, are there any memebers that had an accident while lane splitting, and did your or other party's ensurance cover it.(did the ensurance know that you where lane splitting?)

I would love to see the Law, in black and white.

JourneyMan · « **Reply #17 on:** May 17, 2007, 01:02:06 pm »

Lane splitting as we do it, is illegal.

You are only allowed to lane split when the cars are stationary. As at robots etc.

That's how I have it.

shark_za · « **Reply #18 on:** May 17, 2007, 01:02:23 pm »

Again, in stationary traffic you may, moving traffic there is no word on it.

D7 · « **Reply #19 on:** May 17, 2007, 01:05:21 pm »

I had a cop threaten to arrest me for doing it between STATIONARY cars at a robot in JHB CBD.

The cops themselves are not sure about it.

I just do it.

Author Topic: The Lane splitting threads - Legal or not? (Read 3495 times)

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