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Offline King Louis

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2014, 04:16:30 pm »
@Noneking, thanks. The bit of research I did about what I want to do and where I want to travel to let me to decide on the BMW, other brands have also not attracted my attention, I think its because my first bike I rode was a BMW and it just sticked.

@ChrisL thanks for the feedback guys.

@KingLouis, what is the specs of your bike?
Sorry for whatever reason cant copy/paste the link from my tablet. It s in the trade buy smalls section for sale. 2012 model 105,000 km full specs plus panners/top box. I'm 1,90 / 95 kgs and have done plenty two up fully packed with the wife. Can't beat the adventure for that. Let meknow.
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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2014, 05:18:07 pm »
I would not overlook a F800 adv??The best of all worlds
 

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« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2014, 06:00:34 pm »
I would not overlook a F800 adv??The best of all worlds

In that class I would go for yamaha 660 Tz.
Big BM FAN. 800 GS.....not so much.
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« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2014, 06:13:17 pm »
@Noneking, thanks. The bit of research I did about what I want to do and where I want to travel to let me to decide on the BMW, other brands have also not attracted my attention, I think its because my first bike I rode was a BMW and it just sticked.

The LC GSA is an awesome bike. Few small irritations for me personally, but nothing to get upset about.

There a good second hand one for sale in White River http://html5.m.olx.co.za/2014-bmw-r1200-gs-adventure-iid-765278438
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Re: BMW 1200GS or 1200GS Adv for a first bike
« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2014, 06:22:22 pm »
The question is. Should I save for a normal 1200gs or bite abit more and go for the Adventure? Furthermore, should I go used or new?

Having owned both a GS and GSA (both oilheads) I recommend the Adventure version. And if you can get a newer liquid cooled engine, even better.
 

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« Reply #25 on: December 22, 2014, 06:31:58 pm »
@Noneking, with regards to the 800 GSA, is it maybe not a bit to heavy for the engin?
 

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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2014, 08:14:00 pm »
@Noneking, with regards to the 800 GSA, is it maybe not a bit to heavy for the engin?

I would say no.
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2014, 08:28:15 pm »
@Noneking, with regards to the 800 GSA, is it maybe not a bit to heavy for the engin?
The F800 ADV is a very capable machine.(My opinion only)
(I'm surprised at Nonekings comment)

 

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« Reply #28 on: December 22, 2014, 08:58:20 pm »
Just my personal experience...... I've had a 800 adv as a loan bike on 3 occasions. It did not impress me at all. Obviously can't comment on off-road ability at all, but just the general feel of the bike was very uninspiring...... Especially coming from the 1200 GSA. Almost felt like getting on a bmx after years of riding 29" dual sus mtb......
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« Reply #29 on: December 22, 2014, 10:03:20 pm »
It all depends what you want to do, ride both gs and GSA on the same day, my first exposure to both and opinion was, short, nippy ride, go gs, longer ride and touring go GSA. I am 1.88m and 106kg, f800 feels like a 650 on steroids to. Again it all depends what the purpose of the bike is.

2012 to 2011, I will not buy them, my suspension broke and I know two more which broke while there were 2010models in the same situation, which experience the swingarm problems, the 2010 has a DOHC engin and the rear swing arm does not break as easily.

I do not want to start a brand debate here, but there are other options and manufacturers to consider as well.

For myself, the GSA does the trick, everyday commute, once to twice a year long trips and some one day trips, finally the odd weekend trip. If I did not tour with the bike I would have considered the ktm 1190r, triumph is too small for myself and Yamaha s10 is a great bike and very durable, but the new price tag is too high.

I will stick to the k51 for a long time to come, inspite of an fd failure, which cost myself dearly recently.
 

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« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2014, 10:11:51 am »
My plan is to do touring, and whenever there is a chance to take a dirt road I want to take if without wondering if the bike can hold me.

What I have gathered the 800 is a 650 on steriods and the 1200 then is a 800 with Arnold blood...the 1200 may not be as nippy as the 800 but stil a nippy bike, will the Adv however have trouble on dirt roads? I dont mean your dangerous dirtroad, just nice dirt road with a few climbs...
 

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« Reply #31 on: December 23, 2014, 10:57:59 am »
My plan is to do touring, and whenever there is a chance to take a dirt road I want to take if without wondering if the bike can hold me.

What I have gathered the 800 is a 650 on steriods and the 1200 then is a 800 with Arnold blood...the 1200 may not be as nippy as the 800 but stil a nippy bike, will the Adv however have trouble on dirt roads? I dont mean your dangerous dirtroad, just nice dirt road with a few climbs...
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Re: BMW 1200GS or 1200GS Adv for a first bike
« Reply #32 on: December 23, 2014, 11:01:49 am »
It looks like you have made up your mind already, hope you find the right GSA and have lots of fun with it.
 

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« Reply #33 on: December 23, 2014, 11:15:35 am »
I would not overlook a F800 adv??The best of all worlds


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Re: BMW 1200GS or 1200GS Adv for a first bike
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2014, 11:20:42 am »
I was doing a lot of off-road riding before. Bought a GS and was very happy with it! Did 60K on it and then bought a GSA. The longer suspension is a bonus when doing dirt road riding and then you can get 500km on a tank of petrol. Just lekka for the mind not to worrie about where to find find petrol all the time!

Never ever sorry that I bought 1200 from the start. Excellent for dirt road riding.
If you like to do some ruff stuff, buy a plastic bike to do it.

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Re: BMW 1200GS or 1200GS Adv for a first bike
« Reply #35 on: December 23, 2014, 11:28:54 am »
I would not overlook a F800 adv??The best of all worlds


I never understood this bike - the F800GSA weighs 211kg dry - the 2010 R1200GSA weighs 223kg dry.... 12kg lighter? That's all?
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« Reply #36 on: December 23, 2014, 11:34:36 am »
Disadvantage of the gs or even more the gsa, once you are use to the bike, any other bike, just feels to "skinny" and the low down torque disappears, you will probably never consider any other bike.


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Re: BMW 1200GS or 1200GS Adv for a first bike
« Reply #37 on: December 23, 2014, 12:18:59 pm »
Disadvantage of the gs or even more the gsa, once you are use to the bike, any other bike, just feels to "skinny" and the low down torque disappears, you will probably never consider any other bike.


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« Reply #38 on: December 23, 2014, 01:40:38 pm »
My plan is to do touring, and whenever there is a chance to take a dirt road I want to take if without wondering if the bike can hold me.

What I have gathered the 800 is a 650 on steriods and the 1200 then is a 800 with Arnold blood...the 1200 may not be as nippy as the 800 but stil a nippy bike, will the Adv however have trouble on dirt roads? I dont mean your dangerous dirtroad, just nice dirt road with a few climbs...

I am no off road specialist by any means. But with reasonable experience, the adventure is the best one you can usefor a big boy. Have done Normandiens, lundins Nek, Sani Pass, Baviaanskloof (two up, panniers, topbox, camping gear) and am totally happy with the performance.
 

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« Reply #39 on: December 23, 2014, 03:05:22 pm »
My plan is to do touring, and whenever there is a chance to take a dirt road I want to take if without wondering if the bike can hold me.

What I have gathered the 800 is a 650 on steriods and the 1200 then is a 800 with Arnold blood...the 1200 may not be as nippy as the 800 but stil a nippy bike, will the Adv however have trouble on dirt roads? I dont mean your dangerous dirtroad, just nice dirt road with a few climbs...

I have both the GSA and the GS. If I had to keep only one it would be the GSA.