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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #220 on: April 02, 2015, 09:14:49 pm »
Ek is ok maar stadig maar ek gaan dit my beste try gee. Het n 960 gekoop vir die Amageza.
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« Reply #221 on: April 03, 2015, 06:50:39 am »
960! Yster!
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #222 on: April 03, 2015, 12:33:06 pm »
Its the 690 with the reverse gear option.  Great for dunes
 

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« Reply #223 on: April 04, 2015, 12:36:37 pm »
Its the 690 with the reverse gear option.  Great for dunes

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #224 on: April 05, 2015, 10:53:57 pm »
What do you guys thinkabout a recluse clutch for Amageza
Will it last inthe sand?
 

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #225 on: April 06, 2015, 07:53:37 am »
Aren't some of them run at Dakar? But I don't see a real advantage. The recluse comes into its own in tight, rocky enduro riding, doesn't it?

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #226 on: April 06, 2015, 09:20:01 am »
Aren't some of them run at Dakar? But I don't see a real advantage. The recluse comes into its own in tight, rocky enduro riding, doesn't it?

I think the Rekluse you see on Dakar bikes are mostly just the engine covers that allow one to hold more oil in the engine.
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #227 on: April 06, 2015, 09:33:57 am »
Nope they are the clutches, nit just covers. Struggling with 2015 stats but I think Despres and Pain were the two top ten riders who used them
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« Reply #228 on: April 06, 2015, 10:08:18 am »
Definitely struggling. Depres was in a car! 😜

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« Reply #229 on: April 06, 2015, 10:10:46 am »
Definitely struggling. Depres was in a car! 😜

Struggling with 2015 stats that's why I mentioned the 2014 numbers
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #230 on: April 06, 2015, 10:36:50 am »
Nope they are the clutches, nit just covers. Struggling with 2015 stats but I think Despres and Pain were the two top ten riders who used them

Some may use them but many use just the covers  :3some:

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #231 on: April 06, 2015, 10:44:37 am »
What do you guys thinkabout a recluse clutch for Amageza
Will it last inthe sand?
Eddie, I would not go with a rekluse. Did the Botswana 1000 with and without the rekluse, as an example, and definitely prefer to have the engine braking in the sandy twisties (which you can still get with a rekluse but it is a bit counter intuitive initially to open up to slow down). Cannot think of much benefit in other typical Amageza  conditions as well. 

Hoping that we would see lots of that Botswana terrain in Ama 2015, it is bloody awesome.
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #232 on: April 06, 2015, 10:12:22 pm »
What do you guys thinkabout a recluse clutch for Amageza
Will it last inthe sand?
Eddie, I would not go with a rekluse. Did the Botswana 1000 with and without the rekluse, as an example, and definitely prefer to have the engine braking in the sandy twisties (which you can still get with a rekluse but it is a bit counter intuitive initially to open up to slow down). Cannot think of much benefit in other typical Amageza  conditions as well. 

Hoping that we would see lots of that Botswana terrain in Ama 2015, it is bloody awesome.

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Coming from someone that has used it, I will go with your advice.

 

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #233 on: April 13, 2015, 10:33:58 am »
Hey All - Question here on GPS.
I see that Alex has advised that the only GPS we can use is the Etrex 10. I'm all for standardizing this...... BUT the reason I never bought this one for last years Amageza and rather went with the etrex 20 is:
The 10 has no data card and no memory - so once the tracklog is full at 10000 points.... which is 2.77hours at 1 sec intervals - what happens then? Does anyone know what happens with the etrex 10? The 20 just logs these to the sd card. Does the etrex 10 then create another track?
I just want to be 100% sure that this has been checked.
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #234 on: April 13, 2015, 10:38:51 am »
As far as I understand, they will supply some sort of system which will handle track logging and waypoints. GPS is just for backup/displaying heading if you don't have a ICO CAP
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #235 on: April 13, 2015, 01:34:54 pm »
The 10 has no data card and no memory - so once the tracklog is full at 10000 points.... which is 2.77hours at 1 sec intervals - what happens then? Does anyone know what happens with the etrex 10? The 20 just logs these to the sd card. Does the etrex 10 then create another track?
I just want to be 100% sure that this has been checked.

I rode 6 hours on saturday with the etrex 10, that doesn't make sense. I don't recall the number of points, but it definitely wasn't full.
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« Reply #236 on: April 13, 2015, 03:52:14 pm »
Was it set to 1 sec intervals? I find that on auto it will plot at up to 5sec intervals
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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #237 on: April 13, 2015, 06:33:36 pm »
As far as I understand, they will supply some sort of system which will handle track logging and waypoints. GPS is just for backup/displaying heading if you don't have a ICO CAP

Nope. That was when they were considering ERTF, which is out for this year as it was just too expensive. The Eurex 10 will record your track and score you etc. It can show CAP, but I really think you need a repeater, which is another very high cost item.

Hey All - Question here on GPS.
I see that Alex has advised that the only GPS we can use is the Etrex 10. I'm all for standardizing this...... BUT the reason I never bought this one for last years Amageza and rather went with the etrex 20 is:
The 10 has no data card and no memory - so once the tracklog is full at 10000 points.... which is 2.77hours at 1 sec intervals - what happens then? Does anyone know what happens with the etrex 10? The 20 just logs these to the sd card. Does the etrex 10 then create another track?
I just want to be 100% sure that this has been checked.

Same position - I also bought a 20 last year for Amageza. Bit of a bummer, but I can see where they're coming from. The main issue is to remove any chance of cheating - the 10 can't do maps. Same reason the iPhone is banned, but it's a real bummer for the battered bank account.

When my 20 failed last year (and I was saved by my iPhone) I was told to put it in auto mode by org. The 1 sec rule isn't really necessary, I don't think, as everyone who was using the auto mode scored fine, as far as I know.

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #238 on: April 13, 2015, 07:28:55 pm »
I've had a number of super long days and the Etrex 10 never got to a point where it did not have enough capacity. I have mine on "more often".
 

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Re: 2015 Amageza Rallye
« Reply #239 on: April 13, 2015, 11:02:25 pm »
A possible light in the tunnel

email from Amageza management.

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These electronics are currently allowed on your navigation tower/ instrument setup:

ICO Rallye VR Light
ICO Rallye CAP
RNS Trip-Master XL
RNS Compass-Repeater XL (Also only to be connected to a Garmin eTrex10)
Garmin eTrex 10
No mobile phones, tablets or any computer is allowed. If you are developing something similar to items 1-4, please get a sample to me to review and allow if possible.

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As the basic design and functionality of the RockFox Trip-Cap unit is the same as the two ICO or the two RNS products rolled into one we contacted Amageza management with respect to evaluating our unit.  We will deliver a complete test unit (Trip and CAP) mid May for evaluation.

Herewith a snip of the document to Alexander

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Availability warrantee and cost
Final proof of concept and preliminary testing was be completed by 20 February 2015.  The first system(s) must be ready for user evaluation by 30 April 2015.  First production units must be available 5  May 2015.  The first 10 units will carry a full replacement warrantee for one year. Future warrantee will cover factory defects only.  In order to reduce the setup cost for rallying the unit without GPS antenna/features must retail for around R2 500.00 and GPS module about R 1050.00 Vat incl. We aim to market the traditional Trip and CAP (trip with GPS) units as a set at a discounted price of about R 5 500.00 Vat incl.
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As a further development: We will offer all Amageza riders who purchased a RockFox unit a no questions ask replacement service during the rally. (We will have a service van at the rally)

LASTLY. If we get the GPS units in as another bulk order the price can be slashed to:
Base unit with magnetic pickup for Trip/Speed and 3 button handlebar bracket:   R 1 600.00 incl VAT
Base unit with 48 channel high speed GPS built in base unit. (no external wires) Trip/Speed/Heading:  R 2 400.00 incl VAT
(Remember: both units do have EXACT functionality except the compass heading of the GPS on the Trip/Speed unit)

Please note, these prices are WAY below cost and are funded by the development project as we aim to sell the units in the global market. (Already started overseas negotiations)

So, you have two options, save money to buy an ICO or RNS but put the actual purchase on hold till we get feedback from Amageza management.  If it is a YES you can buy a roadbook etc with the change.  If it is a NO you will at MAX lose on the  exchange rate fluctuation.

We are continuing the development and refining of the units so that they will be available immediately if approved. (hopefully end of May) If we can not get approval for 2015 Amageza we will in any event send a few units out for evaluation overseas.

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