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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2015, 11:27:57 am »
Sorry though it was Glen Foley :-[ :lol8:

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2015, 01:40:19 pm »
Getting our bike back today after the launch, has a puncture!
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2015, 01:44:22 pm »
Getting our bike back today after the launch, has a puncture!

There was one bike that got a puncture yesterday. Thankfully, it was not me riding it.  O0
 

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2015, 09:51:23 pm »
Well seems the things that bugged me most on my 800XC was not fully resolved or addressed -

Forget the ride by wire and mapping modes and eGizmos, give it a big ABS OFF switch, keep the WP suspension, give it a HAZARD switch like most bikes from the last ten years, cover the stepper motor in something dust/mud proof and give us Tubeless rims.

If you have to add weight, give it a few more litres fuel capacity to compliment the improved consumption and give us daytime running lights and some proper projector style Halogens or HID, even cheap ass cars have them standard nowadays and it would make the styling look a bit more modern.

Move the airbox so we dont have to strip all the bodywork, remove the tank and unplug half the wiring loom to clean your airfilter - this is a dual purpose bike after all, otherwise give it a standard oem prefilter that is easy to change, make it foam so we can clean it and keep a spare in the garage.

This would have made it perfect - but now I'll have to see how BMW responds and obviously the new AT will be around 15K dearer but possibly much better.  So in my opinion Triumph missed an opportunity to make the bike best in class for a full year, now its merely "quite nice"
 

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2015, 10:06:09 pm »
 :sip: Now Sparrow, that, was well said, I hope someone read that and take note.  :3some:
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2015, 08:35:51 am »
Well seems the things that bugged me most on my 800XC was not fully resolved or addressed -

Forget the ride by wire and mapping modes and eGizmos, give it a big ABS OFF switch, keep the WP suspension, give it a HAZARD switch like most bikes from the last ten years, cover the stepper motor in something dust/mud proof and give us Tubeless rims.

If you have to add weight, give it a few more litres fuel capacity to compliment the improved consumption and give us daytime running lights and some proper projector style Halogens or HID, even cheap ass cars have them standard nowadays and it would make the styling look a bit more modern.

Move the airbox so we dont have to strip all the bodywork, remove the tank and unplug half the wiring loom to clean your airfilter - this is a dual purpose bike after all, otherwise give it a standard oem prefilter that is easy to change, make it foam so we can clean it and keep a spare in the garage.

This would have made it perfect - but now I'll have to see how BMW responds and obviously the new AT will be around 15K dearer but possibly much better.  So in my opinion Triumph missed an opportunity to make the bike best in class for a full year, now its merely "quite nice"

Many good points, although most have been addressed. Along with the Road and Offroad modes, there is a Rider mode that is customisable and saved, and can then be access via a simple button. For me, I turned off the traction control, put the ABS on offroad (a little ABS in the front and none in the rear, although there is also an Off option), with everything else on Sport and what ever. Every time I turned the ignition back on, I pushed the Mode button twice and I was back to my previous settings.

Under the Mode button is a Hazard button.

The 800 motor is based on the 675, which was only originally designed to be on a sports bike. Maybe moving the airbox requires more than a hacksaw and some wielding? I haven't spoken to the Triumph engineers, but when I speak to engineers from other manufacturers and ask them about things similar to this, they lift one eyelid and ask "how much do you want this bike to cost?"
The pre filter is not standard, but it is an option, and the fellows say it is easy to change. I haven't done it myself, though.

The bike looks really good in the flesh, better than most others. Although halogens would have been cool. Again, I imagine they are trying to keep the cost down.

Triumph say that according to the European GTR2 test, the economy has been improved by 17%, meaning the potential range is 437km, which is only 83km down on what KTM's claim for their 30L Super Adventure.

Sorry, I don't work for Triumph, but I did ride the bike, and my opinion afterwards (especially of the XCx) was "bloody good".

Obviously, once the bike has been around for longer, we will know more.
 

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2015, 09:07:02 am »
Any idea on price?
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2015, 09:08:26 am »
Any idea on price?
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2015, 09:14:58 am »
 :sip: The XCx is R139 900
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2015, 09:34:39 am »
Well seems the things that bugged me most on my 800XC was not fully resolved or addressed -

Forget the ride by wire and mapping modes and eGizmos, give it a big ABS OFF switch, keep the WP suspension, give it a HAZARD switch like most bikes from the last ten years, cover the stepper motor in something dust/mud proof and give us Tubeless rims.

If you have to add weight, give it a few more litres fuel capacity to compliment the improved consumption and give us daytime running lights and some proper projector style Halogens or HID, even cheap ass cars have them standard nowadays and it would make the styling look a bit more modern.

Move the airbox so we dont have to strip all the bodywork, remove the tank and unplug half the wiring loom to clean your airfilter - this is a dual purpose bike after all, otherwise give it a standard oem prefilter that is easy to change, make it foam so we can clean it and keep a spare in the garage.

This would have made it perfect - but now I'll have to see how BMW responds and obviously the new AT will be around 15K dearer but possibly much better.  So in my opinion Triumph missed an opportunity to make the bike best in class for a full year, now its merely "quite nice"

Many good points, although most have been addressed. Along with the Road and Offroad modes, there is a Rider mode that is customisable and saved, and can then be access via a simple button. For me, I turned off the traction control, put the ABS on offroad (a little ABS in the front and none in the rear, although there is also an Off option), with everything else on Sport and what ever. Every time I turned the ignition back on, I pushed the Mode button twice and I was back to my previous settings.

Under the Mode button is a Hazard button.

The 800 motor is based on the 675, which was only originally designed to be on a sports bike. Maybe moving the airbox requires more than a hacksaw and some wielding? I haven't spoken to the Triumph engineers, but when I speak to engineers from other manufacturers and ask them about things similar to this, they lift one eyelid and ask "how much do you want this bike to cost?"
The pre filter is not standard, but it is an option, and the fellows say it is easy to change. I haven't done it myself, though.

The bike looks really good in the flesh, better than most others. Although halogens would have been cool. Again, I imagine they are trying to keep the cost down.

Triumph say that according to the European GTR2 test, the economy has been improved by 17%, meaning the potential range is 437km, which is only 83km down on what KTM's claim for their 30L Super Adventure.

Sorry, I don't work for Triumph, but I did ride the bike, and my opinion afterwards (especially of the XCx) was "bloody good".

Obviously, once the bike has been around for longer, we will know more.

+1.

The headlight is shared with at least the Explorer and, dare I say, is bloody effective as it is? 

The airbox on the Explorer is also a right pain in the ass to get to, even more so than the 800 - but in the Explorer's setup, the airfilter and airbox seem to do just fine over the 16000 km service intervals.  The intake is up high and to the left though, so positioned better than the 800s.  And It is just a roadbike after all ;D

I am seriously considering trading the Explorer in on an XCx - the electronics package makes the 800 a much better tourer IMO... and I mos don't have a pillion anymore?
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2015, 09:38:08 am »
Well seems the things that bugged me most on my 800XC was not fully resolved or addressed -

Forget the ride by wire and mapping modes and eGizmos, give it a big ABS OFF switch, keep the WP suspension, give it a HAZARD switch like most bikes from the last ten years, cover the stepper motor in something dust/mud proof and give us Tubeless rims.

If you have to add weight, give it a few more litres fuel capacity to compliment the improved consumption and give us daytime running lights and some proper projector style Halogens or HID, even cheap ass cars have them standard nowadays and it would make the styling look a bit more modern.

Move the airbox so we dont have to strip all the bodywork, remove the tank and unplug half the wiring loom to clean your airfilter - this is a dual purpose bike after all, otherwise give it a standard oem prefilter that is easy to change, make it foam so we can clean it and keep a spare in the garage.

This would have made it perfect - but now I'll have to see how BMW responds and obviously the new AT will be around 15K dearer but possibly much better.  So in my opinion Triumph missed an opportunity to make the bike best in class for a full year, now its merely "quite nice"

ummm...due to the ride-by-wire  you want us to ignore, there is no stepper motor on the XCx/XRx and there are hazards, big button for them as well.

I suppose an OEM prefilter would have been a great option but to install one is not costly nor is it an issue and it does a massive job of protecting the main filter.

my PERSONAL opinion, ingnoring that I have recently started working at a Triumph dealership, but the overall package in the Triumph now , the build quality, cost of ownership including price & spares, the electronics, the suspension, the 476w alternator, the extras now standard make it very hard to beat barring brand loyalty  (ps, I downloaded and looked at the bmw pricing and specs)
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2015, 10:42:27 am »
Despite being wide of the mark on most of his issues, have some sympathy for Sparro.....he replaced his XC with a TA after all. That would piss anyone off.  ;D
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2015, 11:17:30 am »
Despite being wide of the mark on most of his issues, have some sympathy for Sparro.....he replaced his XC with a TA after all. That would piss anyone off.  ;D

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2015, 12:36:55 pm »
Despite being wide of the mark on most of his issues, have some sympathy for Sparro.....he replaced his XC with a TA after all. That would piss anyone off.  ;D

I swopped my TA for a XC 6 months ago and don't look back for a second!
Sorry to hear about your downgrade Sparro  :biggrin:

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2015, 10:25:51 pm »
Hey, I'm not pissed at all, I hardly ride the same bike for 6 months. The Alp is gone, I have a Harley VRSCR to play with now and Hopefully picking up a very nice KTM 640 by monthend. Enough to keep me busy till the AT arrives.  I still have a Triumph cap so who knows...just put tubeless wheels on ffs.


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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2015, 06:15:20 pm »
my PERSONAL opinion, ingnoring that I have recently started working at a Triumph dealership, but the overall package in the Triumph now , the build quality, cost of ownership including price & spares, the electronics, the suspension, the 476w alternator, the extras now standard make it very hard to beat barring brand loyalty  (ps, I downloaded and looked at the bmw pricing and specs)
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #36 on: March 29, 2015, 10:02:36 am »
my PERSONAL opinion, ingnoring that I have recently started working at a Triumph dealership, but the overall package in the Triumph now , the build quality, cost of ownership including price & spares, the electronics, the suspension, the 476w alternator, the extras now standard make it very hard to beat barring brand loyalty  (ps, I downloaded and looked at the bmw pricing and specs)

How are the XCX  selling
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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #37 on: March 30, 2015, 09:03:07 pm »
Looks great in blue, and with all the rider modes now good competitin for the GS. For the same money still I woul rather go for the KTM1050 but we all have our favourates
 

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Re: Triumph Tiger XRx/XCx launch
« Reply #38 on: March 30, 2015, 09:03:12 pm »
Now I really am in doubt ... do I trade the 'Dero in on a new XCx or wait and trade it in on the new AT ...?


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