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Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« on: February 23, 2015, 05:44:13 pm »
There are a lot of rally kits out there for the KTM690... some better than others for various reasons. I am in the market for one, and all seem to have tradeoffs.

What are you running on your 690? RR EVO2? Omega Fibre? The "Oryx KTM-CT" & PSP kit? Safari tank? Custom jobbie? What do you like or not like about it?

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 05:47:49 pm »
Oh, and is there anyone in the CT area with one of these kits fitted that I could come oogle your bike? I've seen the Oryx KTM-CT kit at the shop, but none of the others.

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 10:19:49 pm »
The safari tank with the RRUK tower is the most crash worthy.  Only issue is to lift the tank to service the air filter.  From what I've seen, the fibreglass tanks are the most delicate, but can also be fixed with pratleys. 
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2015, 05:31:17 am »
I went for the ktm ct psp kit simply because it was the only one which you could fit crashbars for at the time. I believe rockfox now make crashbars for the omega kit as well. I crash often so that was a huge selling point for me   ;D
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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2015, 07:19:48 am »
@Bill: The Safari solution definitely seems like the best value for money. How do you find the weight distribution with the Safari tank? I've heard complaints that it's too much weight too far forward and too high.

@Dwerg: Good tip with the crashbars... that's not something I'd actually even been thinking about!

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2015, 02:35:12 pm »
Dwerg, any more info on the rocfox crashbars for Omega kit?
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2015, 02:38:41 pm »
Dwerg, any more info on the rocfox crashbars for Omega kit?

I am getting a Omega kit down for a client, the bike wil go to Rockfox then for a crashbar design
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2015, 04:48:43 pm »
Aww yisss! Chris, when's it arriving?! I'm eager to see what it looks like. Who's doing fitment? It'd be great if I could see it before and after fitment.

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2015, 09:44:44 pm »
@Bill: The Safari solution definitely seems like the best value for money. How do you find the weight distribution with the Safari tank? I've heard complaints that it's too much weight too far forward and too high.

@Dwerg: Good tip with the crashbars... that's not something I'd actually even been thinking about!

I actually have the Rally Raid UK tanks.  You need to understand that the 690 was designed with a rear tank.  Fitting any front tank setup with a tower makes the bike nose heavy.  I don't really feel that much weight up high, but its bound to be there.  The weight on the nose is noticeable.  If I had to set up a 690 again from scratch for Amageza, I would only fit a Safari tank and go rallye-light to keep the front as light as possible.  If you want to tour as well (I don't) this is not the best solution.
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2015, 08:37:48 am »
Aww yisss! Chris, when's it arriving?! I'm eager to see what it looks like. Who's doing fitment? It'd be great if I could see it before and after fitment.

 :lol8: Chris is Zebra, I are ZA-(Oliver O0)

I will be doing the fitment, I should be getting the kit in the next week or two  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2015, 09:45:30 am »
@ZA -- sorry 'bout the confusion! Please let me know when it arrives. I'm eager to see it in the flesh.

@Bill -- do you have the EVO1 or EVO2 tanks? I understand that the EVO2 tanks are a lot narrower. But I do notice that both of these and the Safari solution has the weight up quite high, as they drain into the rear tank.

The Omega kit seems to place the fuel lower, with the rear tank draining into the front tanks. So while this won't reduce the weight on the front wheel, I'm thinking that it will reduce the pendulum effect and should make the bike a lot more nimble than it would be with the Safari tank? Then again, the nav tower is mild steel, and might be quite heavy? That sits very high.

The other thing that worries me about the EVO2 kit is that it's almost equally wide along the length of the bike (it makes the bike "bulge", see pic below). I've read reports of guys saying it is not the most comfortable, and you lose the narrow, agile nature of the 690.

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2015, 10:18:21 am »
Will do  :thumleft: If my memory is intact, I think the manufacturer of the Omega kit said the complete kit of both tanks, fairing, tower and bashplate is 13kg dry weight.
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2015, 10:56:52 am »
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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2015, 03:01:42 pm »
http://www.omegafibre.net/new-ktm-690-carbon/  This is so  :drif:

It is  :drif: The chap there told me that you can do any colour scheme your hart desires
 

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2015, 03:30:08 pm »
Hey, Jam, you need to change that avatar to the 690 Rally-build!

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2015, 12:34:33 am »
Oh, and is there anyone in the CT area with one of these kits fitted that I could come oogle your bike? I've seen the Oryx KTM-CT kit at the shop, but none of the others.


Thats the cheapest looking one. The Omega looks very good and more "Rallyeish"

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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2015, 04:57:23 am »
If your buying criteria in includes 'looking rallyeish' tou're going to have a bad time
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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2015, 08:36:22 am »
If your buying criteria in includes 'looking rallyeish' tou're going to have a bad time

Isnt that the buying criteria? I've seen way too many 690 RR's being used as poser bikes in CT. 


Big tank, popper headlight (baja designs or similar) and a tower is all you need. Less to damage in a crash too.




However, they do look good.



But is it worth it in the end? What does a new one cost now that is fully converted, 150k? 160k? 
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Re: Which rally kit for KTM 690?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2015, 08:47:57 am »
If your buying criteria in includes 'looking rallyeish' tou're going to have a bad time

Isnt that the buying criteria? I've seen way too many 690 RR's being used as poser bikes in CT.  


Big tank, popper headlight (baja designs or similar) and a tower is all you need. Less to damage in a crash too.




However, they do look good.



But is it worth it in the end? What does a new one cost now that is fully converted, 150k? 160k?  


Depends on the kit. The Oryx looks cheaper because it is. By quite a big margain (if ordering a new bike). Safari tank and Baja headlight would probably work out almost as much. And baja headlights and posers also normally go hand in hand  ;)

Wind protection is not to be scoffed at IMO. Sure some people can do without and would swear it's overkill but for a chubby unfit bastard like myself, I need to save all the energy I can
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« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2015, 08:57:15 am »
Hahah i hear you on the wind. Why do u think I sold the Se and bought an adv again. Riding shouldn't be hard work at speed.
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