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DR 650 as a trails bike
« on: March 23, 2015, 07:00:33 pm »
Ja, ja, I know it will never be a true dirt bike like your KTM two stroke, but that is not what I have in mind - mostly because it is impossible to make it into one and, secondly, I lack the skill to ride an offroad bike to its potential. ;D

Also do not want to convert it into a DS bike - done that and have the T-shirt.

So I am thinking - what I like riding when off-road is some fire roads, some tweespoor. Normally I would ride that with my TW, but sometimes some range and power is lekka too.

Look on the web and not much there - everyone is busy making it a DS which, putting stuff on it. I want to make it lighter and meaner. So far -

Plastic tank (bought with the Clark already on) - nice size and light
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Livened it up a bit - raised needle, unifilter and correct heat range plugs
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removed top chain roller
larger sprockets 16/48 giving the same ratio (0.33) as applicable to a 14/42 mod which is one tooth down in front from 15 sprocket
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removed side stand cut-out switch and disabled clutch cut out switch.
agressive knobblies - T63 front and D606 rear with HD tubes

want to remove the grab bars and replace with an integrated very narrow and light rack. Small, light but bright indicators, better rear view mirrors, etc. Perhaps a lighterront light assembly. I actually prefer the ugly american rear light so will keep that. Cheap handguards loosely fitted. In a fall they get damaged in any event and I do not want to brake my wrist on them - better still would be some levers that would not break (if there is such a thing).

Any other things that I can do to make it lighter and more dirt worthy?
 

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2015, 07:04:07 pm »
Het dit nie deurgelees nie maar dalk is daar n tip of twee.

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2015, 07:31:12 pm »
ZA ry sy DR net soos die YZ.  OK, so bietjie stadiger want sy bike is nog mooi.  Die DR is swaar, maar het die krag om daarvoor op te maak.

ZA?  Chip in.
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2015, 07:38:22 pm »
I'm looking at doing the tubeless/ sikaflex conversion on my 600 and yes the naysayers will line up but I have a trick up my sleeve learned from my 4x4 days..












Nee wat vlekkelose ek kuier op my lekkerste tussen die rokers,dronkgatte,vloekers,hoere en ander sondaars  :imaposer:
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2015, 08:02:58 pm »
Het dit nie deurgelees nie maar dalk is daar n tip of twee.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/661327-dr650-off-road-mods/

Great link dankie Chris, het hom nie voorheen raakgeloop nie. Wat hierdie ouens se is presies wat ek ook in gedagte het.

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2015, 08:31:52 pm »
Ek het al saam met plastics op bergagtige plantasie brandpaaie probeer ry...en ook al in Swazi met 'n paar rowwe karakters op ADV bikes swaar getrek, maar lekker gery met die DR.

Die bike se gewig tel teen jou, so ook jou eie gewig, en dan natuurlik jou fiksheid.

Wees selektief waar jy ry, en bly weg van waar die bokke wei!

Mark Taylor hier by ons is die kampioen as dit by roete uitleg kom. Meestal rooi roete, met elke nou en dan 'n swart stukkie om jou op jou tone te hou.

As dit baie tegnies raak, en jou fiets se gewig teen jou tel, sorg dat jy genoeg hulp by jou het. Verkieslik jou ry buddies, of van die plaaslike bevolking om te help!

Jy kan gou in die moeilikheid op jou eie kom!

Jou DR se voorbereiding klink goed. Die sprocket ratios behoort 'n lekker crawler te wees!

Bande en tubes ook reg.

Min van die DR kan verwyder/verminder word om die DR se gewig te verminder.

As jy kan, weeg asb jou DR vir ons.

Teen 'n helling gaan die DR se gewig altyd teen jou tel.






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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2015, 08:54:56 pm »
ZA ry sy DR net soos die YZ.  OK, so bietjie stadiger want sy bike is nog mooi.  Die DR is swaar, maar het die krag om daarvoor op te maak.

ZA?  Chip in.

 :lol8: krag is daar verseker. Jy kan jou hele headlight afhaal en vervang met n after market ligter een soos n Polisport. Chain guard kan afkom. Rear mudflap kan afkom. Passenger pegs met die brackets kan jy ook afstrip.
 

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2015, 09:03:25 pm »
Ek het 'n spaar DR enjin in die Kaap gekoop. Geen carb, clutch en olie nie. Header pyp en oil cooler ingesluit. Die enjin alleen was 48kg.


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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2015, 09:05:49 pm »
Goeie bash plate om die enjin te beskerm!


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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2015, 11:00:34 pm »
Firm up suspension and improve brakes
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 11:01:36 pm »
so what you want is this?

The only thing I need to still do is a decent rear shock, we spent Sunday morning cutting trails over some serious rocky mountains, with the bottom end these bikes have it's a piece of cake.
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2015, 07:45:58 am »
Goeie bash plate om die enjin te beskerm!


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Ek soek n baie goeie design - een wat ook die kant olie filter cover sal beskerm nadat ek gesien het wat met Matie Sparro sn gebeur het.

Firm up suspension and improve brakes

Ja, I need to get a stiffer rear spring for my fatt butt. Must still decide on what type of modification i must make to the front. Remember, I do not want to go do jumps on a MX track - just want something with a bit better damping.

so what you want is this?

The only thing I need to still do is a decent rear shock, we spent Sunday morning cutting trails over some serious rocky mountains, with the bottom end these bikes have it's a piece of cake.

Yip, a lean and mean DR. Tell me a bit more about the indicators and the rear handles please
 
 

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2015, 07:55:30 am »
So I am thinking - what I like riding when off-road is some fire roads, some tweespoor.

If that's what you want to ride then you are over thinking and just trying to justify the decision you already made  :pot:

Most bikes will do that, go buy it and have fun

And watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJMYMC4jxKM

EDIT: Sorry posted the wrong link
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2015, 08:06:07 am »
The DRís strongest point is the very slow off road stuff. It can crawl along at idle speed without any throttle or clutch input, and when you apply throttle, the take up is smooth and gradual. In the same conditions, my KTM threatens to stall all the time and when I apply the throttle, itís like flicking a switch.

The standard suspension does not handle the high speed rough stuff well, but upgrades are fairly cheap.
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2015, 08:35:00 am »
So I am thinking - what I like riding when off-road is some fire roads, some tweespoor.

If that's what you want to ride then you are over thinking and just trying to justify the decision you already made  :pot:

Most bikes will do that, go buy it and have fun

And watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJMYMC4jxKM

EDIT: Sorry posted the wrong link

 :biggrin: Great clip that Dwerg :thumleft:

 

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2015, 09:44:24 am »
These use exactly the same steering bearing kit
The following front ends - complete forks and triple clamps - will fit on a DR650SE:

KLX400 - 2003
DRZ250 - 2001 - 07
DRZ400E - 2000 - 07
DRZ400S - 2000 - 09
DRZ400SM - 2005 - 09
RM250 - 1993 - 2004
RMX250 - 1993 - 98
RMZ250 - 2007 - current
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2015, 09:52:05 am »
These use exactly the same steering bearing kit
The following front ends - complete forks and triple clamps - will fit on a DR650SE:

KLX400 - 2003
DRZ250 - 2001 - 07
DRZ400E - 2000 - 07
DRZ400S - 2000 - 09
DRZ400SM - 2005 - 09
RM250 - 1993 - 2004
RMX250 - 1993 - 98
RMZ250 - 2007 - current
RMZ450 - 2005


Great info thanks :thumleft:
 

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2015, 10:29:45 am »
Die pillion pegs af haal voel my baie soos die engels man se, penny whise but pound foolish!!!
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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2015, 10:33:34 am »
Die pillion pegs af haal voel my baie soos die engels man se, penny whise but pound foolish!!!

Dit gaan n trails bike word, teensy Kykdaar iemand gaan lift, anders is dit n gewig wat kan verwyder word sonder probleme.
 

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Re: DR 650 as a trails bike
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2015, 12:09:48 pm »
Die pillion pegs af haal voel my baie soos die engels man se, penny whise but pound foolish!!!

Dit gaan n trails bike word, teensy Kykdaar iemand gaan lift, anders is dit n gewig wat kan verwyder word sonder probleme.

Ja, dit het geen gebruik nie. Matie Spero is maar net suur omdat hy nie meer "bitch" saam met my sal kan ry nie :biggrin: