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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #100 on: March 30, 2015, 04:14:38 pm »
As Xaviera Hollander said in the 70s --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xaviera_Hollander

Its always good to have it bigger, but only if you know how to use it :biggrin:
 

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #101 on: March 30, 2015, 04:28:42 pm »
I read that book as a young Man, it was an Eye opener and was of course banned by the Government of the day. ;D
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #102 on: March 30, 2015, 04:31:51 pm »
As Xaviera Hollander said in the 70s --- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xaviera_Hollander

Its always good to have it bigger, but only if you know how to use it :biggrin:

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #103 on: March 30, 2015, 05:07:04 pm »
Yes, bigger is better.

If you ride a small bike you are a loser.



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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #104 on: March 30, 2015, 05:09:51 pm »


I have a permanent neon L on my forehead. :eek7: :imaposer:


So bigger is better,  because there is no way the L that describes you can fit on your forehead.  :lol8:
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #105 on: March 30, 2015, 08:27:40 pm »
Same old argument just never dies  ::)

I'm always amazed how upset people get about this issue, especially when some one says a small bike is a good choice - its immediately taken as critical judgement of bigger bikes, or their riders.  The reverse does not seem to be the case - which is a bit weird?

Personally I prefer smaller, lighter bikes and I actually don't like big bikes at all, with a grudging acceptance of the 950/990 range, having seen how well they perform under competent riders.  The few big bikes I've ridden (950, 1150, 1200), have not made me want one at all.  They just felt big and heavy and difficult to handle to me.  People talk of the extra power, but I've ridden a GSX1000R which was very powerful, felt like an over grown 50, being light and nimble, and bloody scary in terms of its pure performance - a big DS bike just doesn't feel like that to me - just big and clumsy. 
 
My next bike is going to be even smaller than my current bike (probably a 450 or even a 300).  But that's just my choice.

I know other people don't like smaller bikes, for their own reasons, which is fine.  And many people cant wait to tell me whats wrong with my bike.  As usual its just different strokes  :thumleft::biggrin:

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #106 on: March 30, 2015, 08:33:51 pm »
If we were all car fans instead of bikers, then the bigbike okes would be in Valiants, and us smallbike okes in McLarens. :3some:
 

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #107 on: March 30, 2015, 08:37:25 pm »
If we were all car fans instead of bikers, then the bigbike okes would be in Veyrons , and us smallbike okes in McLarens. :3some:


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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #108 on: March 30, 2015, 08:38:43 pm »
If we were all car fans instead of bikers, then the bigbike okes would be in Veyrons , and us smallbike okes in McLarens. :3some:


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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #109 on: March 30, 2015, 08:40:22 pm »
If we were all car fans instead of bikers, then the bigbike okes would be in Valiants, and us smallbike okes in McLarens. :3some:


Or Mini's?  You can't really compare a single to a F1 car.  GS to Valiant, especially the suspension kind of fits   :P
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #110 on: March 30, 2015, 08:43:13 pm »
If we were all car fans instead of bikers, then the bigbike okes would be in Valiants, and us smallbike okes in McLarens. :3some:


Or Mini's?  You can't really compare a single to a F1 car.  GS to Valiant, especially the suspension kind of fits   :P

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #111 on: March 30, 2015, 08:51:16 pm »
If we were all car fans instead of bikers, then the bigbike okes would be in Valiants, and us smallbike okes in McLarens. :3some:


Or Mini's?  You can't really compare a single to a F1 car.  GS to Valiant, especially the suspension kind of fits   :P

And your small bikes are as hot off-road as said Maclaren,  eh?    :imaposer:
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #112 on: March 30, 2015, 08:55:31 pm »
Yes, bigger is better.

If you ride a small bike you are a loser.



You are confusing the issue, if you have a small dick you are a loser and need a big bike to compensate, Soos in Landcruiser boet.

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #113 on: March 30, 2015, 10:20:56 pm »
Get the 660
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #114 on: March 31, 2015, 12:00:56 am »
Fark, was looking the whole evening to see which bikes are currently being sold. What a disappointment.

Seems all sense of simple elegant charm are replaced by complicated plumbing resembling a bike.  Fark, there is nothing that jumps out and say - im sexy, buy me.

I thought now was the time to make classic, reliable, powerful (lish) mid size all rounder classics.  Combine all what is good with modern technology with old style classic looks.  But no, its all farked. Style in bike design is dead .

I smaak a transverse v twin configuration, but the Moto Guzzi v7 range is just to mandane. Nice looking though, but not really my style.  The Yamaha Mt 09 is ok, but a triple is one cylinder to many and it still look like a plumbing job. There is nothing in the d/s market that tickles my fancy - not in the 650 or liter range.  I'm so bored with it all ;D
 

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #115 on: March 31, 2015, 07:06:01 am »
Fark, was looking the whole evening to see which bikes are currently being sold. What a disappointment.

Seems all sense of simple elegant charm are replaced by complicated plumbing resembling a bike.  Fark, there is nothing that jumps out and say - im sexy, buy me.

I thought now was the time to make classic, reliable, powerful (lish) mid size all rounder classics.  Combine all what is good with modern technology with old style classic looks.  But no, its all farked. Style in bike design is dead .

I smaak a transverse v twin configuration, but the Moto Guzzi v7 range is just to mandane. Nice looking though, but not really my style.  The Yamaha Mt 09 is ok, but a triple is one cylinder to many and it still look like a plumbing job. There is nothing in the d/s market that tickles my fancy - not in the 650 or liter range.  I'm so bored with it all ;D

The new Ducati scrambler kinda fits your ideas  :3some:  
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #116 on: March 31, 2015, 07:11:09 am »
I like an open, clean and uncomplicated design in a motorcycle. The centre point of a bike is it's engine, and it is a great shame to hide it away, thus I am not one for fairings much.

Of course, on a superbike a fairing becomes part of the tool, this I can understand.

On a D/S bike like the 990's and the 1190, the fairings become needed because the bikes can cruise at speeds before unknown in the adventure world.

These fairings add greatly to your maintenance cost, both in service times and crash cost.

It is an irony that beautiful engines are hidden behind fairings, and the ugliest engine in all of motorcycle history are too protrusive in nature to be hidden.
 

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #117 on: March 31, 2015, 07:15:36 am »


It is an irony that beautiful engines are hidden behind fairings, and the ugliest engine in all of motorcycle history are too protrusive in nature to be hidden.

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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #118 on: March 31, 2015, 07:16:06 am »
I like an open, clean and uncomplicated design in a motorcycle. The centre point of a bike is it's engine, and it is a great shame to hide it away, thus I am not one for fairings much.

Of course, on a superbike a fairing becomes part of the tool, this I can understand.

On a D/S bike like the 990's and the 1190, the fairings become needed because the bikes can cruise at speeds before unknown in the adventure world.

These fairings add greatly to your maintenance cost, both in service times and crash cost.

It is an irony that beautiful engines are hidden behind fairings, and the ugliest engine in all of motorcycle history are too protrusive in nature to be hidden.

Another dig at BMW, love it  :imaposer:
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Re: Is bigger better
« Reply #119 on: March 31, 2015, 07:37:25 am »
Fark, was looking the whole evening to see which bikes are currently being sold. What a disappointment.

Seems all sense of simple elegant charm are replaced by complicated plumbing resembling a bike.  Fark, there is nothing that jumps out and say - im sexy, buy me.

I thought now was the time to make classic, reliable, powerful (lish) mid size all rounder classics.  Combine all what is good with modern technology with old style classic looks.  But no, its all farked. Style in bike design is dead .

I smaak a transverse v twin configuration, but the Moto Guzzi v7 range is just to mandane. Nice looking though, but not really my style.  The Yamaha Mt 09 is ok, but a triple is one cylinder to many and it still look like a plumbing job. There is nothing in the d/s market that tickles my fancy - not in the 650 or liter range.  I'm so bored with it all ;D

The new Ducati scrambler kinda fits your ideas  :3some:  

Close, but not. The whole retro thing in a kind of cafe racer is not my style. The cafe racer look is frankly boring and over exposed.

Just nice clean lines, high handles without being a chopper or having monkey bars, but kind of leaving the impression its on its way to becoming a chopper, but no chopper rake and drop ass. Twin motor, first price a transverse vtwin.