Author Topic: DAKAR 2016 Thread (Read 342792 times)

gser · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2015, 10:42:09 am »

Well, well !
Sterkte Kobus !

tehdutchie · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2015, 02:50:15 pm »

Great stuff!!

Chili Dog · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2015, 03:12:37 pm »

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Rokie · « **Reply #23 on:** July 29, 2015, 08:39:38 am »

I'm told Riaan is not racing the Dakar this year!!

I'm totally bummed!! Apparently his main sponsor, Broadlink, was sold . . .

Great news about Kobus! Looks like his training is well on track . . .

BlueBull2007 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 29, 2015, 09:11:25 am »

Thats great news about Kobus! Well done boeta!

But someone should quickly tell him that the support vehicles are supposed to be 4x4 next year!!

SteveD · « **Reply #25 on:** July 29, 2015, 12:55:41 pm »

Quote from: Rokie on July 29, 2015, 08:39:38 am

I'm told Riaan is not racing the Dakar this year!!

BFG · « **Reply #26 on:** August 17, 2015, 12:11:50 pm »

Quote from: Rokie on July 29, 2015, 08:39:38 am

I'm told Riaan is not racing the Dakar this year!!

That really sucks especially after he was doing so well last time.

BlueBull2007 · « **Reply #27 on:** August 17, 2015, 08:30:49 pm »

Ja he is not even racing the Amageza. Whats with that?

Rokie · « **Reply #28 on:** August 19, 2015, 08:59:10 am »

Sponsorship is a fickle thing, I'm sure, but it just seems unfair (maybe fairness has nothing to do with it, but it is frustrating) to me that Riaan isn't getting recognition as a world class rider. Also, I guess the KTM attraction is huge and it is VERY competitive to get any kind of factory support from KTM. It is also arguable that KTM helped Riaan in his Dakar success - so, not easy to move from KTM to any another . . . BUT . . .

Let's compare him with Michael Metge:
Dakar 2013:
Riaan 13th overall on debut
Metge 18th oveall on debut

Dakar 2014:
Riaan 12th overall
Metge 13th overall

Dakar 2015:
Riaan (as privateer with sponsors and some KTM support) ended Stage 7 in 10th, which placed him 12th overall, before his bike gave up (salt damage) on Stage 8
Metge (as a factory rider for Yamaha) got 3rd place in Stage 6, but ended Stage 7 in 17th overall and also withdrew with mechanical on Stage 8

Remarkably similar results, with Riaan pipping Metge, BUT:

Dakar 2016:
Riaan not competing
Metge on the Honda factory team!!

I guess Metge has a higher profile, being a European rider and doing well throughout the year, but still - Riaan has the edge in the Dakar results! . . .

Scooterbike · « **Reply #29 on:** August 19, 2015, 03:56:40 pm »

Koos van den Heever · « **Reply #30 on:** August 20, 2015, 12:28:01 pm »

Wooly Bugger · « **Reply #31 on:** August 20, 2015, 12:33:41 pm »

and if any of the top riders require to brush-up on their skills I am sure 2SD would be happy to help them?

monkeyboy · « **Reply #32 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:03:09 pm »

Quote from: Wooly Bugger on August 20, 2015, 12:33:41 pm

and if any of the top riders require to brush-up on their skills I am sure 2SD would be happy to help them?

the spoons come out.
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Wooly Bugger · « **Reply #33 on:** August 20, 2015, 01:30:52 pm »

Quote from: monkeyboy on August 20, 2015, 01:03:09 pm

Quote from: Wooly Bugger on August 20, 2015, 12:33:41 pm
and if any of the top riders require to brush-up on their skills I am sure 2SD would be happy to help them?
the spoons come out.
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If you really want to know how good he is, just ask him?

BlueBull2007 · « **Reply #34 on:** August 20, 2015, 02:33:34 pm »

Quote from: Rokie on August 19, 2015, 08:59:10 am

Sponsorship is a fickle thing, I'm sure, but it just seems unfair (maybe fairness has nothing to do with it, but it is frustrating) to me that Riaan isn't getting recognition as a world class rider. Also, I guess the KTM attraction is huge and it is VERY competitive to get any kind of factory support from KTM. It is also arguable that KTM helped Riaan in his Dakar success - so, not easy to move from KTM to any another . . . BUT . . .

Let's compare him with Michael Metge:
Dakar 2013:
Riaan 13th overall on debut
Metge 18th oveall on debut

Dakar 2014:
Riaan 12th overall
Metge 13th overall

Dakar 2015:
Riaan (as privateer with sponsors and some KTM support) ended Stage 7 in 10th, which placed him 12th overall, before his bike gave up (salt damage) on Stage 8
Metge (as a factory rider for Yamaha) got 3rd place in Stage 6, but ended Stage 7 in 17th overall and also withdrew with mechanical on Stage 8

Remarkably similar results, with Riaan pipping Metge, BUT:

Dakar 2016:
Riaan not competing
Metge on the Honda factory team!!

I guess Metge has a higher profile, being a European rider and doing well throughout the year, but still - Riaan has the edge in the Dakar results! . . .

Yes Metge, made his name riding water carrier for Oliver Pain.

Riaan grew up in the KTM (South Africa) camp and so was likely never considered by Yamaha or Honda, probably because KTM riders are generally not walking around asking for sponsorship.

Also Riaan is a quiet chap. Maybe Metge is not? For sure being European helps.

Great comparison.

I know they are often riding at the the same pace having followed stage by stage for many stages over the yrs.

SteveD · « **Reply #35 on:** August 24, 2015, 08:23:08 pm »

From Dakar.com:

The Organizers of the Dakar have acknowledged the final decision of the Peruvian authorities to cancel the Inca Desafío, which was scheduled to be held this coming 11 to 13 September, as well as the stages of the 2016 Dakar that were presented last April during a joint press conference.

Due to forecasts concerning the El Nino weather phenomenon, which is expected to be extremely violent this year, the Peruvian government has decided to make this issue a national priority by ensuring that all state services are able to mobilize if necessary to help the population that could be affected.
While hoping that the people of Peru will not have to face these predicted disasters, the entire Dakar organizing team is already hard at work to create an alternative route with optimal sporting and safety conditions both in Argentina and Bolivia.
The Dakar organizing team is at the disposal of all the competitors who have already entered to provide all relative information concerning these route changes in a timely manner.
The final route of the 2016 Dakar will be announced in the second half of September.

gser · « **Reply #36 on:** August 24, 2015, 08:34:59 pm »

Come to Africa, south of the equator, more stable here now than S America ( 2015)
. . . mmm ! Alex and Amageza Team, take it for 2015/6 and onwards . . .
Think, ! DAKAR AFRICA soon !

BlueBull2007 · « **Reply #37 on:** August 24, 2015, 08:45:03 pm »

I think this may happen. For sure they are watching the Amageza.

SteveD · « **Reply #38 on:** August 24, 2015, 09:16:42 pm »

Quote from: BlueBull2007 on August 24, 2015, 08:45:03 pm

I think this may happen. For sure they are watching the Amageza.

Etienne: Hey, Alexander, what's your Amageza like these days? Maybe you can make it a whole lot harder, and a whole lot longer, and I bring you a whole lot more riders?
Alexander: Our average distance per day is more than yours
Etienne: Really?
Alexander: And we are more than half your distance, in just seven days
Etienne: REALLY?
Alexander: And last year it wasn't harder than Dakar, but this year they are going to kak...
Etienne: What is this kak you talk about?
Alexander: African for salt pans

Koos van den Heever · « **Reply #39 on:** August 24, 2015, 09:26:01 pm »

Quote from: SteveD on August 24, 2015, 09:16:42 pm

Quote from: BlueBull2007 on August 24, 2015, 08:45:03 pm
I think this may happen. For sure they are watching the Amageza.

Etienne: Hey, Alexander, what's your Amageza like these days? Maybe you can make it a whole lot harder, and a whole lot longer, and I bring you a whole lot more riders?
Alexander: Our average distance per day is more than yours
Etienne: Really?
Alexander: And we are more than half your distance, in just seven days
Etienne: REALLY?
Alexander: And last year it wasn't harder than Dakar, but this year they are going to kak...
Etienne: What is this kak you talk about?
Alexander: African for salt pans

Met 'n knop in die keel!!!!