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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2015, 08:40:17 am »
Not sure if that's funny....  :eek7:

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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2015, 09:26:32 am »
I think this may happen. For sure they are watching the Amageza.

Etienne: Hey, Alexander, what's your Amageza like these days? Maybe you can make it a whole lot harder, and a whole lot longer, and I bring you a whole lot more riders?
Alexander: Our average distance per day is more than yours
Etienne: Really?
Alexander: And we are more than half your distance, in just seven days
Etienne: REALLY?
Alexander: And last year it wasn't harder than Dakar, but this year they are going to kak...
Etienne: What is this kak you talk about?
Alexander: African for salt pans

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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2015, 03:34:02 pm »
Sponsorship is a fickle thing, I'm sure, but it just seems unfair (maybe fairness has nothing to do with it, but it is frustrating) to me that Riaan isn't getting recognition as a world class rider. Also, I guess the KTM attraction is huge and it is VERY competitive to get any kind of factory support from KTM. It is also arguable that KTM helped Riaan in his Dakar success - so, not easy to move from KTM to any another . . . BUT . . .

Let's compare him with Michael Metge:
Dakar 2013:
Riaan 13th overall on debut
Metge 18th oveall on debut

Dakar 2014:
Riaan 12th overall
Metge 13th overall

Dakar 2015:
Riaan (as privateer with sponsors and some KTM support) ended Stage 7 in 10th, which placed him 12th overall, before his bike gave up (salt damage) on Stage 8
Metge (as a factory rider for Yamaha) got 3rd place in Stage 6, but ended Stage 7 in 17th overall and also withdrew with mechanical on Stage 8

Remarkably similar results, with Riaan pipping Metge, BUT:

Dakar 2016:
Riaan not competing
Metge on the Honda factory team!!

I guess Metge has a higher profile, being a European rider and doing well throughout the year, but still - Riaan has the edge in the Dakar results! . . .  :pot:

Maybe Metge is not? For sure being European helps.


I'm still waiting on the first Dutch (part of Europe  :laughing4:) rider to get support similar to the South Americans  :drif:
 

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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2015, 04:33:50 pm »
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2015, 04:01:36 pm »
SO did you guys see? The Peruvian government cancelled the Peru Stages due to El Nino. What a load of bull. ::)

Anyway, the ASO will be scrambling big time to work out a new route with just two countries....

Amageza is looking more attractive by the day.
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #45 on: August 27, 2015, 04:20:07 pm »
On the Riaan subject, while I am not disputing what a world class rider he is, it maybe must just be clarified that he never actually got any factory ride from KTM for the Dakar, what he got was a factory race package that Broadlink purchased for him each year and it is a package that you or I can purchase if we had R1,5 million (excluding 450 RR). For example in late 2014 both Riaan and Darryl Curtis left KTM South Africa and went to ride for Husqvarna, but in Jan 2015 Riaan was on a KTM in the Dakar because that is what Broadlink bought for him, even though he was then a sponsored Husqvarna rider.


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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #46 on: August 31, 2015, 08:28:43 am »
Come to Africa, south of the equator, more stable here now than S America ( 2015)
 . . . mmm ! Alex and Amageza Team, take it for 2015/6 and onwards  . . .
 Think, ! DAKAR AFRICA soon !

I think this may happen. For sure they are watching the Amageza.

I wonder if it would not be easier to run it in Africa (read SA, Botswana, ala Amageza) one year, and then in South America the next - i.e. every second year on a different continent. This would give the organisers more time to organise the event. Essentially, they could run 2 organising teams with some shared infrastructure/services. Just a thought . . .
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #47 on: September 10, 2015, 07:38:59 am »
After Amageza I'm particularly unhappy to have to wait so long for the Dakar.
Any news on SA / African entrants for Dakar 2016? I really don't want to wait till November for the official competitors' list.

There's Superman Kobus:
 https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Superman-road-to-DAKAR-Kobus-Potgieter/787873841331406?fref=ts

And Brian B on the quad (with Ted Barbier & George Twigge):
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=179419.0

Who else?
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #48 on: September 10, 2015, 09:16:36 am »
I think that's its unfortunately Rokie.

With the exchange rate where it is I'm surprised there is anyone actually.   
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 10, 2015, 09:37:24 am »
I think that's its unfortunately Rokie.

With the exchange rate where it is I'm surprised there is anyone actually.   

true story . . . I hope these okes are earning dollars . . .  >:(
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #50 on: September 17, 2015, 05:59:21 pm »
So they have "exceptional news" for us.

A new route:

http://crea.splio.com/fr/aso/about/0209/docs/carte.pdf


DAKAR 2016: Plan B, fast, very fast!
Following the decision of Peru to withdraw from the 2016 edition, the Dakar has leaned on its knowledge of the Argentinean
and Bolivian territories to come up with an alternate route. Thanks to the unwavering support of the Argentinian government
as well as of the Bolivian authorities, the new route calls for daring, on the technical and high-speed stages… but not only.
In three and a half months’ time the Dakar’s competitors and teams will finally come together in Buenos Aires! After three weeks’
intense work on the ground together with the authorities of the host countries, who have shown exceptional capability, the rally teams
have been able to design a route whose features remain faithful to the values of the event in every respect.
“Thanks to the immediate involvement and unfailing commitment of the Bolivian and Argentinian authorities, we have found the right
technical solutions to take on the new challenge posed to us at the end of August. The loyalty of the institutions in the two countries
to the Dakar means we are now in a position to offer competitors a quality event for 2016”, says Dakar General Manager Etienne
Lavigne.

While the dates, the number of stages and the distance of the stages will remain the same, the nature of the terrain proposed will
force the competitors to employ a different driving approach and shift up one gear. There will be fewer dunes and more technical
tracks on the opening three days, which will take the rally to San Salvador de Jujuy. Then, a new idea has been devised to reach
Bolivia, particularly the bivouac at Uyuni, where vehicles from all the categories will come together this time. “Before arriving there,
the competitors will be placed in a new marathon configuration,” explains Marc Coma, Sporting Director of the event. “We are going
to set up a strict Parc Fermé at Jujuy while the support vehicles drive the long route to Uyuni. The Bolivian section maintains the
feature of three days’ racing at high altitude”.

After having reached Salta for the 10 January rest day, the Dakar will head to Rosario by taking the route initially designed for the
2016 edition. The six stages to be contested in the foothills of the Andes were concocted precisely to offer a demanding and
complicated end of the rally, with sandy stages, most notably in the Fiambala sector. The Sporting Director of the event, Marc Coma,
who has recently supervised the reconnaissance for this part of the race, cautions precisely that “the idea of endurance will live up
to all its meaning on these stages, because the bikes and quads will have to cope with a second marathon stage in week two. I have
a feeling that changes at the sharp end of the general classification will be more than likely on these stages.”
Program of the 2016 Dakar:

31/12 and 01/01: Administrative and technical checks
02/01: Start podium in Buenos Aires
03/01: Buenos Aires - Villa Carlos Paz
04/01: Villa Carlos Paz - Termas de Río Hondo
05/01: Termas de Río Hondo - Jujuy
06/01: Jujuy - Jujuy
07/01: Jujuy - Uyuni
08/01: Uyuni - Uyuni
09/01: Uyuni - Salta
10/01: Rest day in Salta
11/01: Salta - Belén
12/01: Belén - Belén
13/01: Belén - La Rioja
14/01: La Rioja - San Juan
15/01: San Juan - Villa Carlos Paz
16/01: Villa Carlos Paz - Rosario
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #51 on: September 17, 2015, 06:08:59 pm »
Jeepers, it must be a helluva job to change things at such a late stage!! I hope they pull it off!
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As long as they have Dakar 2017 still in South America, I am a happy chappie as I will be there to WATCH the thing live!! I was planning on going for Dakar 2016, but things did not work out as I hoped, so it will have to be 2017  :biggrin: :biggrin:




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Re: DAKAR 2016 - Team Superman
« Reply #52 on: September 27, 2015, 10:50:35 am »

For the last three years I have been participating in the World Cross Country Championship in the motorbike category.
In 2009, I participated in the Australian Safari which ended in a horrible crash. So bad, that I had to start rehab from scratch - learn how to walk again. At that cross road in my life, I had to decide whether I'm going to follow my passion and or give up the dream. Life is to short to give up your dream so I decided to live it.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy shit....what a ride"

My story continued with several success stories and very disappointing ones as well in Rally racing and I have been blessed to be able to participate, enjoy and made good friends such as Rafal Sonic, Sam Sunderland, Marc Coma, Helder Rodrigues, Mohammad Balooshi, Nassar Alathiya and Gongalves. All down to earth friends willing to help. It's a great sport.....

This year It is the BIG D - Dakar Rally.

Check out our Facebook, Team Superman road to Dakar, Kobus Potgieter.
https://www.facebook.com/teamsupermantodakar2016

I would like to create awareness for my campaign (support club) and to get the word out there to young people never to give up believing in your dream and therefore ask to spread the word and join the Team Superman support club. If you enroll, you will receive a Team Superman Dakar jacket and or a team T shirt,depending on your membership enrollment. All info on our Facebook mentioned above.

Many thanks and thanks for all the support though the past couple of years.
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #53 on: September 27, 2015, 11:48:13 am »

For the last three years I have been participating in the World Cross Country Championship in the motorbike category.
In 2009, I participated in the Australian Safari which ended in a horrible crash. So bad, that I had to start rehab from scratch - learn how to walk again. At that cross road in my life, I had to decide whether I'm going to follow my passion and or give up the dream. Life is to short to give up your dream so I decided to live it.

Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy shit....what a ride"

My story continued with several success stories and very disappointing ones as well in Rally racing and I have been blessed to be able to participate, enjoy and made good friends such as Rafal Sonic, Sam Sunderland, Marc Coma, Helder Rodrigues, Mohammad Balooshi, Nassar Alathiya and Gongalves. All down to earth friends willing to help. It's a great sport.....

This year It is the BIG D - Dakar Rally.

Check out our Facebook, Team Superman road to Dakar, Kobus Potgieter.
https://www.facebook.com/teamsupermantodakar2016

I would like to create awareness for my campaign (support club) and to get the word out there to young people never to give up believing in your dream and therefore ask to spread the word and join the Team Superman support club. If you enroll, you will receive a Team Superman Dakar jacket and or a team T shirt,depending on your membership enrollment. All info on our Facebook mentioned above.

Many thanks and thanks for all the support though the past couple of years.
Kobus Potgieter
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FANTASTIC KOBUS, we are in with you bud!

Hope this latest injury is healing well. I'm keen to meet your Doctor!

Guys: Please support Kobus with a sponsorship if you can. I am IN> :deal:
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #54 on: September 27, 2015, 11:49:18 am »
By the way,

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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #56 on: September 28, 2015, 04:18:45 pm »
 

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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2015, 10:13:11 am »
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2015, 12:06:46 pm »
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Re: DAKAR 2016 Thread
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2015, 10:37:43 am »
Hi Guys
I am supporting Kobus Potgieter’s Dakar 2016 Dream!                                                                                
After chatting to him about a supporters campaign and reading the below story about his dream/achievement, I am all for supporting his goal!
He has launched range for the support club via a membership.
Who’s interested? (as before – I don’t benefit from this at all! Same as last year, I carried the transport cost for most but have a Dakar T-shirt from Riaan van Niekerk’s campaign last time)

Prices will be reveled soon....

http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Cape-Town-man-beats-the-odds-to-to-take-on-Dakar-Rally-20150928
http://www.demotix.com/news/8370062/amageza-rallye-29-aug-5-sept-2015-rider-profile-kobus-potgieter/all-media

This is a small preview of the high end merchandize: the cheaper (R260.00 shirts) will change with the Dakar route on the back and no KTM logo on…. Just so the Yamaha and BMW oukies can wear the shirt as well… lol Just joking…..

LET me know if you are keen and I can put in a bulk order again to get the cost down…… !!
If you know of anyone that might also been keen send them this mail…….

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