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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2015, 11:25:27 am »
That's when the wring went out the window
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2015, 11:27:13 am »
That's when the wring went out the window
Hy sou net oor die 180 gedoen het die die tyre die fan gestrike het.

Jip ek het hierdie holkol op my maag dat hy dalk die fight gaan verloor vir een of ander kak rede ???
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2015, 11:50:56 am »
Shame man....die arme ou! Maak nie saak watter spoed hy gery het nie. Ons almal druk maar so nou en dan! Dit moes net nie gebeur het nie. Dis nou bad luck in sy ergste vorm! Gelukkig is hyself OK. Kon maklik anders gewees het.
 

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« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2015, 01:03:15 pm »
Hul moet ook eers bewys dat hy so vinnig gery het, meskien toe die drade begin uit ruk het, het die die bike dalk n calibration test op die clocks gedoen en net daar gaan staan omdat die computer box hay wire geraak het, snaakse goed gebeur met shorts en under voltage situasies...
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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2015, 01:06:32 pm »
Whatever speed he was doing I'm sure he's going to have a struggle on his hands getting this resolved.
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2015, 01:08:06 pm »
I would pay that speedo no attention at all, the needles both point to the top because of the electronic failures, not from the speed.
Young enough to know I can, old enough to know I shouldn't, stupid enough to do it anyway.
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2015, 01:25:19 pm »
wel as hy daai band op 180 verloor het moet BMW hom n medalje gee en dit as marketing gebruik vir hoe stabiel hul bikes is.   Kelvin Klein sal natuurlik die nuwe onderbroek sponsor maar dis n ander storie 
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2015, 01:35:19 pm »
I would pay that speedo no attention at all, the needles both point to the top because of the electronic failures, not from the speed.

The revs and speed correlate though.

Anyway, one of the reasons I believe in a proper run-in period.  It is not just about the engine.

 
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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2015, 02:15:13 pm »
This incident will have nothing to do with either BMW or Michelin

I have seen many bike accidents in my life, and this I am confident is the result of low tyre pressure and high speed

 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2015, 02:30:39 pm »
This incident will have nothing to do with either BMW or Michelin

I have seen many bike accidents in my life, and this I am confident is the result of low tyre pressure and high speed



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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #30 on: April 10, 2015, 03:09:16 pm »
Warning lights on dash for low tyre pressure only come on at 2 bar. That tyre is supposed to be at 2.9 bar at the back. Will 0,9 bar really make such a difference that it will result in a blowout? Don't think so gents....

But, BMW might be able to see on the diagnostics what speed he was doing?
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #31 on: April 10, 2015, 03:25:36 pm »
Come on Guys !!!!!

I cannot believe after all the posts on this forum that long standing members call for replacement of bike under warentee etc. That is unless you are a troll and trying to incite a heated discussion that has been done to death already.


Come on boys!

1. YES under inflation (you can see the discoloration from the heat build up) , But why? Answer can only be by puncture or a leak maybe at the bead or valve.
2. This was not a sudden deflation bar after the delamination took place (then it was quick).
3. High speed could have played a part but only a idiot screws a bike to max revs from the showroom floor. Either way this is a assumption.
4. Delaminated rubber is what damaged to inner fender where bmw bolt on the computer box. I know cos I did the same thing on a bmw 800 between Merweville and Sutherland also at extended time at over 180km/h destroying the inner fender just from stones being thrown up.

In closing. Insurance will pay. It is not BMW's fault. It is NOT the tyres fault. If you want to blame anyone blame the rider for not seeing or feeling he has a puncture. In his defense it is a new bike and there had been no time for bonding.

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #32 on: April 10, 2015, 03:29:23 pm »
Come on Guys !!!!!

I cannot believe after all the posts on this forum that long standing members call for replacement of bike under warentee etc. That is unless you are a troll and trying to incite a heated discussion that has been done to death already.


Come on boys!

1. YES under inflation (you can see the discoloration from the heat build up) , But why? Answer can only be by puncture or a leak maybe at the bead or valve.
2. This was not a sudden deflation bar after the delamination took place (then it was quick).
3. High speed could have played a part but only a idiot screws a bike to max revs from the showroom floor. Either way this is a assumption.
4. Delaminated rubber is what damaged to inner fender where bmw bolt on the computer box. I know cos I did the same thing on a bmw 800 between Merweville and Sutherland also at extended time at over 180km/h destroying the inner fender just from stones being thrown up.

In closing. Insurance will pay. It is not BMW's fault. It is NOT the tyres fault. If you want to blame anyone blame the rider for not seeing or feeling he has a puncture. In his defense it is a new bike and there had been no time for bonding.

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Good post
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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2015, 03:31:29 pm »
Warning lights on dash for low tyre pressure only come on at 2 bar. That tyre is supposed to be at 2.9 bar at the back. Will 0,9 bar really make such a difference that it will result in a blowout? Don't think so gents....

But, BMW might be able to see on the diagnostics what speed he was doing?

Its a new bike he maybe never saw it come on and was enjoying such a nice ride through the Karoo looking at the scenery and playing high speed highway with the few cars in the area. Who knows.

Maybe the computer had already dropped and was not taking readings anymore.

Its all assumption.

What is not assumption is the story the tyre tells, the facts are all there.

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2015, 03:32:50 pm »
 :eek7: :eek7: ek moet my honderbroek gaan verander net vir sy part...
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2015, 03:33:05 pm »
Come on Guys !!!!!

I cannot believe after all the posts on this forum that long standing members call for replacement of bike under warentee etc. That is unless you are a troll and trying to incite a heated discussion that has been done to death already.


Come on boys!

1. YES under inflation (you can see the discoloration from the heat build up) , But why? Answer can only be by puncture or a leak maybe at the bead or valve.
2. This was not a sudden deflation bar after the delamination took place (then it was quick).
3. High speed could have played a part but only a idiot screws a bike to max revs from the showroom floor. Either way this is a assumption.
4. Delaminated rubber is what damaged to inner fender where bmw bolt on the computer box. I know cos I did the same thing on a bmw 800 between Merweville and Sutherland also at extended time at over 180km/h destroying the inner fender just from stones being thrown up.

In closing. Insurance will pay. It is not BMW's fault. It is NOT the tyres fault. If you want to blame anyone blame the rider for not seeing or feeling he has a puncture. In his defense it is a new bike and there had been no time for bonding.

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Good post

Agree 100%
 

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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #36 on: April 10, 2015, 03:47:22 pm »
Impact marks from either loose rubber hitting the undercarriage.

Looking at this again I would also assume that this "piece of rubber" that caused most of this damage was still attached to the casing and was wiping around.
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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #37 on: April 10, 2015, 03:51:54 pm »
One of the many spots showing heat
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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2015, 03:54:24 pm »
You can see here how the tread was "skinned" off the casing.
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Re: "Bursting" the rear Michelin on a 600km young 1200GS LC ...
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2015, 04:02:12 pm »
Met soveel skade is die kanse seker nog goed dat die versekeraar die fiets afskryf. Met 'n nuwe fiets soos die een, hoeveel verloor die eienaar in so 'n geval. Net nuuskierig
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