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« on: June 27, 2006, 07:47:10 pm »
What's your favourite bike mag? It seems Topbike and Two Wheels is much more value and quality than Bikesa. I buy all 3 of them and share it with my bro-in-law, especially Bikesa is a Autotrader style mag, not good quality articles in my opinion. Enduro mag is also quite good.
Sometimes I buy Superbike and once a year Bikerlifestyle or something.

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2006, 07:53:27 pm »
I take it you mean Enduroworld
 

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2006, 08:43:06 pm »
Enduroworld
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2006, 08:48:33 pm »
Why can't I vote for two??  Top Bike & 2 Wheels get my vote as the best value for money.  Enduroworld is close 2nd.
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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2006, 09:09:30 pm »
Superbike is a copy & paste exercise from the UK mag, with poor local content.  And it is not my type of bike they focus on.

Bikers Lifestyle.  I haven't read one yet, and am not planning to.  From what I've heard it is like Loslyf, but with bikes in between.  :oops:
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2006, 09:11:28 pm »
Wow! When I was still living in SA, there only used to be BikeSA... and at one stage, it was not too bad. When I last saw it a year ago, it was just ads, and printed on really shitty paper.  :evil:
 
What are the others like? Any good?
 

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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 09:47:25 pm »
Bikerlifestyle is a rally report mag. Comparing it to loslyf would be a compliment. Its way worse than that in quality.

Enduroworld seem to be expanding, this month was the biggest yet.
They covered the KTM950 Super Enduro and had a report on the Yamaha XT660X super motard. Other DS type article is this dude who has a roadworthy KDX and wrote a report on the roads out towards Thabazimbi and some dudes who went to Lesotho and then Wild coast on 640 Adv's.
Hopefully we will see one or two DS bike reports per month.

My fave bit this month is Daryl Curtis writing how Lourens Mahoney got too Karls Diner at Ertzberg and "thought he would use Jimmy Lewis for traction. The result was a fuming Jimmy who was now holding his brake lever in one hand, whilst trying to slap Lourens with his other"

Aparently Lourens gave Jimmy a spare lever and went on to finish the race.

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2006, 08:17:41 am »
Its easy, Enduro World. Bike SA would be second but thats probably because of the Charlie's Madcap Adventures comic ONLY!
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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2006, 08:39:53 am »
Bikesa - Worst layout and printings errors of any mag I know. Filled with adds that don't concern me and a pic on the cover that never resembles anything inside the mag.

Topbike - Good but too thin. 5minutes of paging and I'm through the mag having learnt nothing that I did not know before.

Two Wheels - My vote. Nice layout, some humour and glossy pages. Nicely balanced between dirt and tar but quads are beginning to feature more and more...

Superbike - Can you say "copy and paste"? You can clearly see the difference between UK and local content. Portman should invest in a better digital camera quick!

Biker Life style - Poorly presented porn. I can't even tell my wife I buy it for the articles because they are not worth reading.

Enduroworld - MX is not my thing. Seems like the articles are written by pimply teenagers
 

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2006, 08:44:32 am »
98% with LS , 2Wheels is good.

Articles are written by pimply recently ex teenagers, Lourens Mahoney writes a column ;)

The newer inclusion of DS articles are by older guys though.
 

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2006, 08:54:32 am »
Well I only ever bought one copy of enduroworld so maybe I spoke to quick

I'll swing past CNA this afternoon and check it out
If they start doing articles on DS riding then they are OK in my books  :)
 

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« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2006, 01:02:50 pm »
Bikesa is the only mag I know of where the owner (Fourie) are presented more often than not. I used to buy it but never will again. I buy mags when I see an interesting article on the cover page.  :)
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2006, 02:26:33 pm »
Maybe its time for a new Mag :wink:  :lol:

I agree with 2Wheels, but in general the bike mags are shit.  The articles are so 'thin' and ill presented.  

Jeez BikeSA is the worst - HowieZowies family story always fails to provide insight into the real aim of the article - THE BIKE.  I don't care for his exploits neither for those of the Pispotte (or something).

The ads are what its about - not the reader, read client.

Have you ever read the bike gang stuff, 'the sarge-of-arms challenge the vice-president of the Hell's rotting Bat heads to categorically withdraw his statement that a pink nipple is better than a purple one , or ....' - F... its like school-ground stuff :lol:

I learned more from a KLR in the first 2 threads of KLR650.net than in the entire KLR article by Howie in BSA - jeez he even quoted the specs of the bike wrong.  

We need quality biking articles in this country, not by a bunch of brand whores, who'll write anything for a free lunch and trip on the latest RT - bunch of wankers.

Oh BTW did i tell you I don't like the bike writers....?

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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2006, 02:31:49 pm »
geez H!
I have never seen you react this strongly about anything before - I think we have found your weak spot :lol: :twisted:
 

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« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2006, 02:42:34 pm »
Quote from: "KiLeRSA"
We need quality biking articles in this country, not by a bunch of brand whores, who'll write anything for a free lunch and trip on the latest RT - bunch of wankers.
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this sound familar to me..........I think I said the same to Jacko.  8)
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2006, 02:54:11 pm »
Jacko's previous employer published a declaration that they would never accept bribes or perks from manufacurers, vendors or such agencies.
When they are antertained for at no cost to themselves they promised to say so in the article.
 

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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2006, 02:57:16 pm »
I guess so  :lol:  :lol:

I think LITO called it consumer journalism or something.  Thing is lot of people in this world still treat anything they read in a book or magazine as gospel.  These f...ers have a obligation to at least give a decient reflection on a bike they test ride or article they publish - jeez they ask money for the mag.  At least write a proper article about the bike and its abilities, an added bonus will be objectivity and frankness.  A reader would like to learn something about the bike, not about the prick's friends, wife, look on life, tortoises and gang-members.

For instance, the surging on the Dakars (and please I'm not trying to rip into BM) - not a word was said in the so-called 'test reports', if any, maybe a casual mention with promises that it was applicable to earlier models and sorted out now.  When reading Adventure Rider's Handbook (book) they list that as an aweful fault on an otherwise good bike etc etc.

When the poor asshole 'test' the KLR, not a word was mentioned about its downright dangerous front suspension, they (and wait for this) even complemented its brakes as being 'not great, but adequite'.  Now any fly on a turd will know the legendary inadequite ability of the KLR's (especially front) brakes - 80's technology fading when compared with modern bikes like Dakar's, TA, KTM640's etc.  I mean such blatent overlooking of obvious things to report on, or worse, reporting the obvious things wrong - is purely atrocious - bordering on deliberate misinformation - potentially dangerous.

And their comprehension for the written english language :roll:  I don't make myself out as having a good grasp for the language, but then again I'm not a journalist by profession and walk around at bike gatherings like I'm the sun around which the mere mortal planets revolve-attitude.  

But then again - people buy the mags, there's a market for this shit and it sells.  Makes me think about people, and thats what makes me sad.

[whining and venting off]

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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2006, 03:01:40 pm »
Those points mentioned are not as serious as you make out H.
So the report was fair.

The suspension is adequate and the brakes are fine for me at least.

At least that report did more than give quoted specs and says its nice.
 

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2006, 03:07:20 pm »
I mean when doing an article about a bike its easy to follow some form of pattern:

Maybe start be introducing the bike, say for what its tyically used, who's its main rivals, where was it launched under which name in other places in the world, what was that market's impression of the bike.

Then give us some background - is everything new to the bike, where does it engine come from, was it any good previously, frame, suspension, etc etc.

Then give us some detail about the bike, specs, points to note, debate the value of some of the components - pro's and con's

Dyno-test results - don't just publish the graph, I can get it from the internet - interpret the graph - tell us the practical implication of the info.

Ride the bike in different conditions and give us a generic opinion of the result - here we need a expert not a wanna-be HD-cruiser reflecting on a d/s bike.

Chat about things like support, add-ons, re-sale value etc.  be frank about stuff that niggles, slant, rave, worship - as long as its based on fact.

can't be that difficult...???

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2006, 03:14:23 pm »
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The suspension is adequate and the brakes are fine for me at least


Thats the point Sharky, the front suspension stock and brakes are not adequate when compared with the competition in its class.  It fails dismally in both regards against any bike in the class regarding aforementioned components.  It therefore must be highlighted and viewed as inadequate - based on the benchmark set by the competition and coming last when compared and ranked accordingly.

I don't mind that.  Its up to me then to see if I'm willing to live with that for half the price of the competition's bikes, or if I can do something about it with aftermarket mods.

At least gather all the facts and be honest about it before distorting it :lol:

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