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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2006, 03:17:19 pm »
I've still to read a report where a bike gets critted out completely by the journalist. That goes across the range.

Always very diplomatic in their evaluation. Gives a wrong impression to noobs wanting to get a first time bike.
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2006, 03:32:51 pm »
but natuurlik!

No journalist in his right mind will say a bike is plein k@k comparing to others. The manufacturer will never again invite that journalist or the mag he works for to the next release.

BTW journalists of mags write what the readers want to read. and as Hein said it makes me also sad.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2006, 03:41:15 pm »
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No journalist in his right mind will say a bike is plein k@k comparing to others. The manufacturer will never again invite that journalist or the mag he works for to the next release.

That might be a problem for a small/new magazine but someone like BikeSA and 2Wheels should hold the upper hand when it comes to things like this.
If a manufacturer feels scorned and withdraw their bikes for further testing they will soon feel left out and come back tail between their legs.

Bending over backwards to please a manufacturer at the expense of their readers is wrong

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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2006, 03:56:32 pm »
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These are my personal views and not those of the forum as a whole


Hey LS I see you leave a back door open just in case.... :lol:
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2006, 03:58:21 pm »
I guess they generate more income from ads than from circulation?  Problem is without circulation nobody with publish ads?

So - boikot the SOBes

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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2006, 09:04:14 am »
I voted for Enduro world.... it was the first time i bought it and i am glad i did. It gives a great report on the Erzberg Rally and the launch of the 990SE katoom is nmixed in there as well. I hope their DS Contingent increases monthly. I page the BarkSA purely cuz it's on the coffee table in my mother-in-law's house. It looks more like a thick pamphlet you get at the traffic light in the cage than a bike magazine.

I am still of the opinion that a DS magazine is not a bad idea.. it's gonna start off small... but like the Enduro world dude wrote... he never expected his part-time "hobby" to become his main focus.. with little time for anything else. If someone has the shineys to do it.. they will have my support.

DS is a rapidly growing market... my mate has a KTM enduro he is in the process of selling it to get the 640 ADV, aparently my stories of our trips has him inspired...
 

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« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2006, 09:16:36 am »
Good for you Grootseun, for the first time I've ridden the 640 last weekend - come on ask my opinion..... :lol:

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« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2006, 09:17:55 am »
Serious suspension, serious power but rough vibes.
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« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2006, 09:35:29 am »
I have the 950 Adv and had the pleasure of riding the 640 a while ago. It was a very short ride but man would i like to go and play in the bush on that machine.

Kilra.....soooooo what did you think? :lol:
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« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2006, 10:16:11 am »
So whaddya think hein???

Dont leave us in suspenders like some other forum members tend to do :lol:  8)
 

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« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2006, 10:19:54 am »
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So whaddya think hein???

Dont leave us in suspenders like some other forum members tend to do :lol:  8)


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« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2006, 10:57:58 am »
OK OK

Soos Shark se - serious suspension - nice and high, thin seat - light feel (MX rig).  That I did anticipate.  The vibes is noticable - very.  What intrigued me was the fact that it didn't have a lot of low down grut - maybe a bit more than the KLR, but not much (much like the Dakar's) - it wanted to be rev to unlease its oemph - imho.

Its hardish, read off-roadish in the tarmac corners.

If your style is definately more off-road orientated - go for it.  It would fit a specific need/rider.  I can see a good rider flying down shit roads with the buzzy engin singing and the posh suspension soaking up everything the road throws at it.  

For more sedated riding and long distance touring (50/50 terrain) - you can do better.

The nearest thing out-of-the-box for serious RTW, off the beaten track touring.  

I still love my KLR (and will be left with R30k plus in my pocket) for my needs, but can see people enjoying the rougher stuff buy one.

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« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2006, 11:02:31 am »
Kilra,

Now I am going to be singing Pink Floyd final Cut to myself all day!!
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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2006, 02:36:45 pm »
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We have great fun with the 640Adv in the garage, when you want to move bikes around, get the 640Adv on the centre stand and rev it up, it will walk around on the centre stand and if you're not watching it will bugger off out of the garage on it's own


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

I did not expect that level of vibs, I thought if you're used to the KLR it can't be worse.  Thumpers came a long way from the old XR/XTs - but jeez the 640 made me think of my old '80 XR.  - but also in a nice way if you know what I mean - it oozes with 'come ride me wild' attitude, much like Michelle Bruce in the 80s :lol:  :lol:

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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2006, 03:02:28 pm »
Would love to ride a 640 one day. Just a day trip te experience it. Seen it in action. Awesome with a capable rider on it. :P
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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2006, 06:04:57 pm »
EnduroWorld is best but too thin, every guy and his dog can be a tester at bikesa since you hear more about skipping tollroads and cruising at 220 than the bike itself. Superbike only sells because of the centre spread. What we need is a bookform of this site, a "Wegbreek" or "Getaway" on two wheels. If someone made a mag with all our ride reports I'd buy it !
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« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2006, 07:01:58 pm »
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Not a bad idea DD we have great ride reports maybe we can sell them to mags for support on the site. Just Bikesa would not buy because they run there own boring site :lol:

Isn't Jaco a journalist?


I can be the suspension or bashplate tester!

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« Reply #37 on: July 26, 2006, 07:19:36 pm »
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Wehlsie stop making bloody comments like this, I constantly have to tell the family why I am laughing my ass off. :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


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« Reply #38 on: July 31, 2006, 10:29:35 am »
This month'sEnduro world  mag (the one with the new ADV) has no more than 3, yes 3 DS related articles in. A bike review on the TA (2006) the new 1200 GS adventure AND  trip report  from some guys, mostly ktm's an one BM (only one pic of the BM and no mention of it at all in the whole report.)
 

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« Reply #39 on: July 31, 2006, 11:01:41 am »
Yep and a fedw photo's of the Katoom factory. Wouldnt mind if that pic was of my garage instead......Soooo many pretty toys! :D  :D
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