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WR450 F v CRF450 x
« on: July 10, 2015, 11:05:28 am »
My gat jeuk alweer. I like the idea of a 450 adventure bike. Cruising speed is not an issue. Shit man, I cruise at 110km/h on my 1150  :lol8:

I like the idea of a light bike that handles well, having had a taste of it on my KLX650. These seem to be the main contenders. Secondhand they price about the same depending on year model.

So which one ? Main concern is service cost and reliability and of course all the other stuff like suspension etc.
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2015, 11:12:55 am »
CRF needs suspension work and stainless steel valves so add about 8k to your budget unless it has it all ready. I'd say for dual sport out of the box the WR would be a better option.
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2015, 11:17:54 am »
What would on average be the service intervals on these bike ? I'm not after a race bike. It will be used a lot as I ride around a lot  :biggrin:
« Last Edit: July 10, 2015, 11:19:11 am by jupiter »
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2015, 11:24:34 am »
What would on average be the service intervals on these bike ? I'm not after a race bike. It will be used a lot as I ride around a lot  :biggrin:
Every 1200km to 1500km. On the CRF the gearbox oil can be changed at every second service.
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2015, 11:28:41 am »
 :peepwall:
 

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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2015, 11:29:24 am »
What would on average be the service intervals on these bike ? I'm not after a race bike. It will be used a lot as I ride around a lot  :biggrin:
Every 1200km to 1500km. On the CRF the gearbox oil can be changed at every second service.

You sure that's not a typing error... should it not be every 12 000 - 15 000km  :eek7:
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2015, 11:48:36 am »
What would on average be the service intervals on these bike ? I'm not after a race bike. It will be used a lot as I ride around a lot  :biggrin:
Every 1200km to 1500km. On the CRF the gearbox oil can be changed at every second service.

You sure that's not a typing error... should it not be every 12 000 - 15 000km  :eek7:
Er no  :deal: To give you an idea on my KTM530 it used to take 600ml of oil on the motor side, so that is a bit more than a buddy coke - scary when you see how small amount it is. Furthest I have gone between oil changes was on my 525 on which I did 2000km.
« Last Edit: July 10, 2015, 11:51:22 am by sidetrack »
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2015, 11:50:19 am »
What would on average be the service intervals on these bike ? I'm not after a race bike. It will be used a lot as I ride around a lot  :biggrin:
Every 1200km to 1500km. On the CRF the gearbox oil can be changed at every second service.

You sure that's not a typing error... should it not be every 12 000 - 15 000km  :eek7:
Er no  :deal:

Eish ! That kills it... so back to restoring the KLX for those red route rides  :biggrin:
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2015, 11:51:06 am »
Save your money Jups, IMHO and talking from experience, they're not worth the pt to maintain for the purpose you require it. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 11:54:19 am »
Save your money Jups, IMHO and talking from experience, they're not worth the pt to maintain for the purpose you require it. 
Well to service them is not complicated, can be done in an hour and the confidence they give you off road is amazing. But yes going riding where you normally take your 650 is going to be a total waste.
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2015, 11:56:08 am »
Save your money Jups, IMHO and talking from experience, they're not worth the pt to maintain for the purpose you require it. 

 :thumleft: Like I said in my opening line... GATJEUK  :lol8: I get those(often). I know very well that for what I do, and how I ride, the KLX, once sorted, is the perfect bike.

Nice to know now in any case.  :thumleft:
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2015, 11:59:44 am »
Save your money Jups, IMHO and talking from experience, they're not worth the pt to maintain for the purpose you require it. 
Well to service them is not complicated, can be done in an hour and the confidence they give you off road is amazing. But yes going riding where you normally take your 650 is going to be a total waste.

Its just very occasionally I want to do something slow and very technical, where I would want a lighter bike.

But I've also landed myself in those situations with the bigger bikes and managed. Its just that at the right time, the right bike makes it so much more enjoyable, but as said, at the cost not worth it.

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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #12 on: July 10, 2015, 12:02:09 pm »
Yep, I get that rear end condition often as well  :o This does not mean of course that a Husky 610 or KTM690 wouldn't be a better choice  ;) :lol8:
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2015, 12:06:51 pm »
Yep, I get that rear end condition often as well  :o This does not mean of course that a Husky 610 or KTM690 wouldn't be a better choice  ;) :lol8:

Ek dink ons moet dit los... dis net kaksoek die  :lol8:
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 12:14:49 pm »
Not too sure, but from what I heard if you add a oil cooler to the WF450F you then increase the oil quantity, and also the oil change times.
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2015, 01:05:42 pm »
Talk Italian........Husky 450TE
 

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« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2015, 01:06:32 pm »
Oil cooler not much more but a sump/bash plate with extra 2 litres works
 

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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2015, 01:12:24 pm »
Talk Italian........Husky 450TE

Si quest e' una buona moto. :ricky: :ricky: :ricky:
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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2015, 01:13:53 pm »
Fit for this purpose or not, the Yamaha would have been best. I am not saying this out of blind loyalty, Yamaha 4strokes are really best.
 

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Re: WR450 F v CRF450 x
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2015, 09:56:36 am »
why not a CRF250L ?
http://amsterdamtoanywhere.nl/en/motoren/
http://www.adventuremotorcycle.com/spotlight/21-spotlight/riders/583-rides-steph-jeavons-crf250l-rtw#.VaDLuvnsaIQ

Quite a few people have gone that route for a light bike plus the service intervals are very far apart , I think 12 000km