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Offline Dwerg

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #80 on: August 21, 2015, 01:01:27 pm »
Oh yes it definitely has a lot of power, that video...I dont know.  The BMW rider looks like a noob.  I'm a noob, but thats a real wet noob.
in a straight line the F800GS will out accelerate the 690 esp if one keeps going to 200km/h.  A BMW F800's 0-100kmh is 3.2-3.4 seconds if you look at reviews etc and the KTm 690 Enduro is 4.2-4.6 seconds. Nevermind top speed.  I've ridden 2 690's and they are very fun and powerful. I think ones main concern in doing speed tests will be keeping the front down :)
However, I'm not in it for that really, a powerful bike is fun and indeed, hooligan inducing so i can understand your tyre usage ..or shal we say "abusage"  :biggrin:

Yeah I don't know about the respective riders skill but remember, I had an 800GS on which I did many kays and I can tell you that the 690 will at the very least keep up from 0-140, but most likely out accelerate the 800. Obviously the 800 will beat it for top speed being a twin. I hear you on ABS. I'm the opposite. I don't want ABS
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #81 on: August 21, 2015, 02:57:49 pm »
@Xpat, yeah...that Adventure is also interesting...they definitely have something on the way, but for my needs I'll just go 690 / 701 or XC if I want to go cheap. I really don't need a twin anymore. Otherwise I will just keep the F800 as it does everything well, accept the weight part.

The bike on the spy photos has 690 single, not twin. The speculation is that they may start producing adventure bike (bigger tank front back, longer swingarm, etc.) with 690 engine as a bridge till the twin is ready (if ever). I would be perfectly happy with the single 690 in rally coat from factory - as that is what I'm planning to do with 690 anyway.

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #82 on: August 21, 2015, 03:02:50 pm »
@Xpat, yeah...that Adventure is also interesting...they definitely have something on the way, but for my needs I'll just go 690 / 701 or XC if I want to go cheap. I really don't need a twin anymore. Otherwise I will just keep the F800 as it does everything well, accept the weight part.

The bike on the spy photos has 690 single, not twin. The speculation is that they may start producing adventure bike (bigger tank front back, longer swingarm, etc.) with 690 engine as a bridge till the twin is ready (if ever). I would be perfectly happy with the single 690 in rally coat from factory - as that is what I'm planning to do with 690 anyway.

You are right! I thought i saw dual headers, but I have read about a possible Twin on the way 700-900cc so that threw me.
As long as it weighs under 160kg's.

Another thing  I think the 690 has over the XC.  Slipper clutch.
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #83 on: August 21, 2015, 03:08:23 pm »
@Xpat, Why are you wanting to move from the 660 to the 690?
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #84 on: August 21, 2015, 03:22:37 pm »
It's all Dwerg's fault  >:D.

Look, I haven't decided yet - I still would like to ride xt660r to make up my mind. I think you've read my complaints about 660z - I'm leaving today to Namaqua and Richtersveld, which may rekindle our relationship, but I do not hold my breath (if anything, 100s of kms in deep sand may nudge me even more to something lighter).

What is unique in 690 is the combination of light weight (which I will deliberately add to to get long distance capability and stability) and power. And, contrary to any other single on the market I know, 690's power just get's better as your revs raise. For my type of adv riding - which resembles more long distance rally type of terrain (sand, double tracks, dirt roads), rather than Ertzberg, I spent most of my time around 110 - 140 kmh (probably somewhat slower in deep sand, but not that much when on light bike like my te630). And regardless of gearing, any single bike at those speeds is going to be mostly upwards of 5500 rpm, where most of them start running out of oomph despite the power up modifications, while 690 is getting right into it - that increasing acceleration with increasing revs is addictive for this type of riding. For technical stuff, my te630 will kick 690's butt (rider being the same of course).

I'm still iffy about reliability and price, but my inner kid's nagging is just relentless, and is starting to get upper hand over the rational considerations.

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #85 on: August 21, 2015, 03:47:14 pm »
Just do it Xpat!
 

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #86 on: August 21, 2015, 04:06:16 pm »
It's all Dwerg's fault  >:D.

Look, I haven't decided yet - I still would like to ride xt660r to make up my mind. I think you've read my complaints about 660z - I'm leaving today to Namaqua and Richtersveld, which may rekindle our relationship, but I do not hold my breath (if anything, 100s of kms in deep sand may nudge me even more to something lighter).

What is unique in 690 is the combination of light weight (which I will deliberately add to to get long distance capability and stability) and power. And, contrary to any other single on the market I know, 690's power just get's better as your revs raise. For my type of adv riding - which resembles more long distance rally type of terrain (sand, double tracks, dirt roads), rather than Ertzberg, I spent most of my time around 110 - 140 kmh (probably somewhat slower in deep sand, but not that much when on light bike like my te630). And regardless of gearing, any single bike at those speeds is going to be mostly upwards of 5500 rpm, where most of them start running out of oomph despite the power up modifications, while 690 is getting right into it - that increasing acceleration with increasing revs is addictive for this type of riding. For technical stuff, my te630 will kick 690's butt (rider being the same of course).

I'm still iffy about reliability and price, but my inner kid's nagging is just relentless, and is starting to get upper hand over the rational considerations.

I'm nowhere near riding like that but the bolded part in your post is exactly how I feel.   :P
I have a KTM 250 XCW to hold back the "I NEED one now" part and luckily / unluckily I do bike daily as per commute so that has the sensibility part of the brain at least tied up in the corner shouting loudly.... but tbh.. thinking of commuting on this sure seems like a lot of fun as well as taking it into rougher terrain. Other than putting my 2stroke on the road that is  :biggrin:
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #87 on: July 08, 2016, 10:08:02 am »
I have a 2009 690 SM which I commute daily on, so far racked up 52 000 kms in the past 4 years. Travel between 20 and 100 kms /day. had to replace rocker arms and cam shaft at 50 000 kms. other than that, no other issues. have been looking at upgrading to something with a little more wind protection, but only thing that cought my eye was the new Africa Twin, but then KTM announce that the 800 was going to be released soon - year or two, so now I shall wait to see what is shown at INTERMOT and EICMA. aaargggh
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #88 on: September 13, 2017, 11:39:11 am »
So..... I'm here again but this time it's with a difference. I'm not thinking about a 690 as a daily ride and I had and sold the Xchallenge. It was everything i thought it would be. Brilliant bike. Still not as dirtworthy perhaps as it should/could have been.


Some people here mentioned that the KTM 690 is a lot more dirt worthy. I've ridden 3 now, but not in the dirt. Always on the road.
So my current situation changed a lot.
I know ride a 1200GS LC as my daily and my long distance touring with pillion etc.  Fantastic bike and I love it.
I also sold my KTM 250 2t and now have a 2009/2010 can't remember exactly now  Yamaha WR250F thats licenced on the road. Plates, lights indicators hooter the works. and I really love this bike as well.
In fact for any local rides on any dirt I actually ride to the dirt and then ride and ride home. Fantastic until I have to go long distance or higher speed roads. i.e roads with speed limits 100kph and above. She will reach 125kph but then she is screaming.
 On those roads at those speeds the little WR screams and I dont like doign that at all, so I end up sitting at 60-75km/h.

My mate and I often ride together and it was a blast till hemoved house and we discovered some other areas to play.
Now it's trailer time, or leaving my bike at his spot, then going there after work or on the weekend and we both ride on the road to the trails in the area where both of our dirt bikes are plated. It's really great to be able to do that but the longer distances brings the issues.

I can see now however that within a month or 3 we are going to get bored of these places and wat to ride others...this then has the implications of hiring a trailer loading and going riding.
I'm already thinking this is not a great situation. Even if we each get Xramps for our vehicles you now have to leave the vehicle in the middle of nowhere.

SO.....here comes the KTM 690 again sticking out it's head.
I don't need it for daily or commuting. I need to ride to a trail and then ride a trail and ride home.

Thing is my Xchallenge was pretty good at that...but not good enough (or I wasnt good enough) to really enjoy sticking to the 250's 450's at places like the quarry to Zone 7 or atlantis dunes etc. I did it...but not without struggling or falling in really sandy whoops sections. As soon as it got to harder dirt it was awesome.

Now the 2 of us are thinking of each selling our bikes and getting a 690 each.
I enjoy more technical riding as well as sand riding, but I also enjoy dirt outrides and exploring. My mate enjoys the latter more and he has a blast on farm roads etc. So me knowing what  thats like and doing longer distances to places like Tankwa / Oasis etc thinks maybe the 690 can do all of that.
He could just get a 800gs or something for those trips and I can take the 1200 but then we will be missing out on the more explorative riding when we see a 1 spoor etc.

How will the 690 cope on quarry rides, Zone 7 enduro or Barrel farm etc in stock form, are those rides generally out now?
I'm an average rider at best.

Then I once again come back to why I chose the Xchallenge over the 690 when I needed it for a everyday ride.... reliability.
How difficult is the known issues to fix or fault find. Do they give warning generally?

Are any year models better than the other for reliability or capability? ABS requirement now is not a must as it wont be commuted with in the rain etc. So any model year would do it terms of functionality.
Where do you service other than KTM CT. How easy is it to do valve checks and fuel pump change etc yourself?

Should I just keep the WR250 and trailer it? A good clean no issue road going WR250F is a bit of a unicorn...id hate to make a mistake and not have that bike anymore and want it back....but I might have to sell it to afford the KTM.  I sold a YZ250F before to get a 450 and after a few other bikes yearned back for my YZ - hence  I got the WR and it's just awesome for me in the dirt.

The 450's 525's etc are out since they require too much oil changes and the like. The only option really is a 690 unless i'm missing something less obvious.

I just feel with the 690 we can get on and ride basically anywhere and not have to worry about all this trailer kak or have to wrestle heavy pigs around.
If we want to go ride after work I can take the 690 and go directly after work.
It just makes life way easier.

If i had the KTM 690's price in cash lying around I wouldn't be asking this question.  I'd keep the WR and get a 690.


@Xpat, you ended up getting the 690....what are your comments now after your move?

WR250,  690 Enduro and a 1200 GS LC.... a man can dream right?

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #89 on: September 15, 2017, 09:50:20 am »
So I guess you guys think it s a kak idea?   ;D

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #90 on: September 15, 2017, 10:45:23 am »
Well your post is pretty much the 690 design brief. Try get a demo for a day and go ride in those areas. Stock gearing isn't ideal for trail riding but that's an easy fix. Mine is back in stock trim and I'm loving more than ever. In fact it's the longest I've kept one bike and I have no intention of selling it. Except maybe for a 701
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #91 on: September 15, 2017, 11:08:18 am »
Well your post is pretty much the 690 design brief. Try get a demo for a day and go ride in those areas. Stock gearing isn't ideal for trail riding but that's an easy fix. Mine is back in stock trim and I'm loving more than ever. In fact it's the longest I've kept one bike and I have no intention of selling it. Except maybe for a 701

Yeah seems thats the only two options hey.
Ok, ill start looking for one. Gonna put the WR250F up for sale.   :'(   You guys will help me with all the mechanical kak I'm going to have right?  :biggrin:
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #92 on: September 15, 2017, 11:16:13 am »
the only problem I have with my 690 is trying to get my helmet off with the big smile after riding it !!!!

and very happy to ride 200kms on tar to do a 50km ride offroad, and then 200kms home an tar again.

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #93 on: September 15, 2017, 01:44:23 pm »
the only problem I have with my 690 is trying to get my helmet off with the big smile after riding it !!!!

and very happy to ride 200kms on tar to do a 50km ride offroad, and then 200kms home an tar again.

RB

Hopefully that will be my experience as well..... perfect bike on paper.
I've test ridden 3, all on the road only though. Loved it there.

That riding you do is exactly what we are looking at doing, hopefully a bit less tar and more dirt though.
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #94 on: October 03, 2017, 02:13:23 pm »
I might have found one.....  :eek:
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #95 on: October 03, 2017, 04:34:20 pm »
I might have found one.....  :eek:

About time, just buy the damn thing now, we're getting tired of all the questions  :imaposer:

PS!!! It's a bloody awesome bike  >:D
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #96 on: October 03, 2017, 07:17:37 pm »
I might have found one.....  :eek:

About time, just buy the damn thing now, we're getting tired of all the questions  :imaposer:

PS!!! It's a bloody awesome bike  >:D

 :lol8:

Will probably know tomorrow....so many options on the for sale section as well.  :biggrin:
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #97 on: October 12, 2017, 11:00:02 am »
Got my baby....she purrs like a kitten and goes like a stabbed rat!
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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #98 on: October 12, 2017, 11:18:12 am »
Got my baby....she purrs like a kitten and goes like a stabbed rat!

Congrats ! Show her off to us please ;)
 

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Re: The KTM 690 as daily ride.
« Reply #99 on: October 12, 2017, 11:20:54 am »
Got my baby....she purrs like a kitten and goes like a stabbed rat!

 :blob10: :blob3: :blob5: :blob6: :blob7: Congrats  :thumleft:
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