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Re: Bikesquad - New Pics after 29 yrs - from pg 10
« Reply #220 on: November 29, 2015, 07:01:39 pm »
. . . as I have said before, cost effective reliable mobility requirement to the users task objectives are the one of the key factors in war.
Tracked vehicles are known for there low ground pressure, low rolling resistance and good traction potential.
"Frozen ground, ice, different ground snows, different muds , different sands , soil types, gradients , vegetation types thus the full environmental mobility requirement profile" in that mix, is a challenge for a vehicle designer  and for the user to put in its users requirement statement, plus the rest of his system needs. Then the "prototypes" has to be scientifically evaluated.
Then comes ride comfort, noise, vibration, temperature, shock, ergonomics, etc. , not so easy to put a  successful military system on the ground at the right price with a fully integrated logistic support system on a long bases ( 30 years )
Politics , well , that's something else !
More to follow on Kriek 
 

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Re: Bikesquad - New Pics after 29 yrs - from pg 10
« Reply #221 on: November 30, 2015, 10:59:42 pm »
This is very interesting to follow Jeff, lekker skills you guys have there. :thumleft:

As someone who is much to young to have been in the bush war, I enjoy following these threads and discussions.

Keep them coming.
 

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Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #222 on: December 02, 2015, 10:27:15 am »
During our bike course and our coin ops phase we were taught how to use different riding formations in the bush.

1 - Single file - used for covering distance and on roads etc.
2 -  Arrow head - Used just before a spread out line.
3 -  Spread out line - Attack or just before a contact when 2 min behind your     poor victims.

Our intake did not fight on the bikes. The bikes were to get from one point to another faster than anyone other than heli gunships.

As soon as we hit a contact we had to drop our bikes no matter what speed we were going or what terrain we were on. It is very difficult to get your back wheel to slide out to put your bike down in thick sand  :deal:

My section( 10 bikes) operated in single file with 2 scouts up ahead ( myself and Steve Young) and as soon as I saw we were close to contact I would give the signal for spread out line.

Our spacing depended on the thickness of the bush. This was determined by keeping each other in sight.

It was extremely difficult  and resulted in us riding into holes etc when we were trying to stay in formation.

Us as scouts were responsible for all navigation as well.

Once contact was made we reverted to our infantry training and fought on foot.
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #223 on: December 02, 2015, 01:00:03 pm »
As mentioned previously that I was based in Ruacana.

Only 1 section was sent to each of the three camps ie: Okatopi, Ugongo and Ruacana.

We were utilised for:

Follow up operations
Patrolling - 1 to 7 days.
Padspook - Tar road inspection for any terrorist activity.
Escorting -  high ranks, dignitaries,  convoys and civvies. Where necessary we would ride about 300 m ahead with 5 bikes in the bush spread out in a line on either side sweeping for ambushes. Lots of fun trying to stay ahead of the vehicles and staying in a spread out line.

It was especially difficult to stay in formation as you have to continuesly adjust your separation space according to the thickness of the bush . In open areas 10 bikes could sweep a strip of almost 1 km wide.

Very interesting and I loved every minute.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2015, 03:39:46 pm by The Badger »
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #224 on: December 02, 2015, 01:28:39 pm »
I have posted this previously but it is relevant to the section above.
This pic is of an earlier bikesquad as pics are very scarce.

I have not seen one pic of Bikesquad in action.... for obvious reasons  :deal:
« Last Edit: December 02, 2015, 03:42:51 pm by The Badger »
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #225 on: December 02, 2015, 01:31:53 pm »
From what I can see on the pics, you guys didn't have hand guards or similar, so putting a bike down "quickly" for a contact must have used up a lot of clutch and front brake levers?
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #226 on: December 02, 2015, 03:34:20 pm »
From what I can see on the pics, you guys didn't have hand guards or similar, so putting a bike down "quickly" for a contact must have used up a lot of clutch and front brake levers?

You are 100 % right Mr Zog. We carried lots of spares of levers, handlebars,  tyres, tubes , chains, sprockets and of course back mud guards hehehe

I think a few guys broke their wrists because of hand guards when going over the bars. They were handguards on previous years but not on ours.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2015, 03:39:02 pm by The Badger »
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #227 on: December 02, 2015, 03:42:21 pm »
From what I can see on the pics, you guys didn't have hand guards or similar, so putting a bike down "quickly" for a contact must have used up a lot of clutch and front brake levers?

You are 100 % right Mr Zog. We carried lots of spares of levers, handlebars,  tyres, tubes , chains, sprockets and of course back mud guards hehehe

I think a few guys broke their wrists because of hand guards when going over the bars. They were handguards on previous years but not on ours.


 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
although I shouldn't laugh, my old XL is coming close to flipping me off, soon  :eek7:  :ricky:
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #228 on: December 02, 2015, 03:51:30 pm »
From what I can see on the pics, you guys didn't have hand guards or similar, so putting a bike down "quickly" for a contact must have used up a lot of clutch and front brake levers?

You are 100 % right Mr Zog. We carried lots of spares of levers, handlebars,  tyres, tubes , chains, sprockets and of course back mud guards hehehe

I think a few guys broke their wrists because of hand guards when going over the bars. They were handguards on previous years but not on ours.


 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
although I shouldn't laugh, my old XL is coming close to flipping me off, soon  :eek7:  :ricky:

Hey careful there Mr Zog, my experience is that an xl is a little harder than an XR. .... I think it is the wheelbase as it suddenly wants to flip( quicker than an xr) when you get near balance point which lends me to believe it also has a heavier front end.
Nice compression so it works just like a back brake.
Good luck and enjoy.  :thumleft:
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #229 on: December 02, 2015, 03:53:57 pm »
From what I can see on the pics, you guys didn't have hand guards or similar, so putting a bike down "quickly" for a contact must have used up a lot of clutch and front brake levers?

You are 100 % right Mr Zog. We carried lots of spares of levers, handlebars,  tyres, tubes , chains, sprockets and of course back mud guards hehehe

I think a few guys broke their wrists because of hand guards when going over the bars. They were handguards on previous years but not on ours.

We got our XR500's with handguards, huge pipe things like oversized Yamaha AG100 handguards. At some stage they wanted us to mount a "wirecutter" on the front of the handlebar, someting similar to what some coin-ops vehicles had. Basically a length of flatbar, with a cut-out in it. We refurse to have it fitted, too dangerous to the rider.
 

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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #230 on: December 03, 2015, 09:22:49 am »
From what I can see on the pics, you guys didn't have hand guards or similar, so putting a bike down "quickly" for a contact must have used up a lot of clutch and front brake levers?

You are 100 % right Mr Zog. We carried lots of spares of levers, handlebars,  tyres, tubes , chains, sprockets and of course back mud guards hehehe

I think a few guys broke their wrists because of hand guards when going over the bars. They were handguards on previous years but not on ours.


 :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:
although I shouldn't laugh, my old XL is coming close to flipping me off, soon  :eek7:  :ricky:

Hey careful there Mr Zog, my experience is that an xl is a little harder than an XR. .... I think it is the wheelbase as it suddenly wants to flip( quicker than an xr) when you get near balance point which lends me to believe it also has a heavier front end.
Nice compression so it works just like a back brake.
Good luck and enjoy.  :thumleft:

Sorry for the hijack...  :peepwall:


I flipped an XR once, while playing at the old Brikor MX Circuit in Edenvale. I was about 16 or 17, 1983-ish, and used to trying to get my 50's front wheel up. The same technique on the XR500 was disastrous!  :imaposer:  :imaposer:  :imaposer:

And now, with the XL500S, I'm having as much fun, but at almost 50 years old, I think its gonna hurt just a bit more...  :peepwall:  :eek7:

Anyways, lets just see what happens  :ricky:

Hijack off.  :lol8:
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #231 on: December 03, 2015, 07:33:02 pm »
M.Z . was it fixed , ? you and/or bike ?
 

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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #232 on: December 03, 2015, 11:22:53 pm »
Another.... it was nervewracking in long grass. Aardvark holes are the worst.
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #233 on: December 04, 2015, 08:59:59 am »
Platoon 13, section 3 overnighting in some drainage pipes.

Second pic is when we were issued with our bikes once we got to SWA.
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #234 on: December 04, 2015, 10:06:32 am »
Hou die threat aan gang asb, moet nie dat hy dood loop nie, ek geniet die foto's en stories baie.  :thumleft:
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #235 on: December 05, 2015, 11:39:33 am »
Thanks Roelof and Jakkals. :thumleft:

Hopefully some other bikesquad guys will post as well.
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Re: Bikesquad - Formation riding and fighting
« Reply #236 on: December 07, 2015, 11:53:07 am »
4 or 5 guys were chosen for the demo team/squad every year from the 40 or so guys chosen for Bikesquad.

The guys that could wheelie and do tricks when we went in had a good shot at getting chosen as well as the guys that raced or were sponsored. .
Every one wanted to be chosen as you didn't do all the ops training and you stayed in SA and you went to all the shows all over the country and had plenty females....Top Job in our eyes.

We did not realise then that the ops guys would have an unbelievable experience up in SWA and Angola.

Here are some pics from various intakes of demo teams with thanks from SADF Bikesquad group, Murray Hoffman and Ben Neumann, cheers guys.
 
« Last Edit: December 08, 2015, 05:44:26 pm by The Badger »
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Re: Bikesquad - Demo Squad
« Reply #237 on: December 07, 2015, 12:21:57 pm »
More pics...... thanks Murray Hoffman and others.

I think these are from the Windhoek show.
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Re: Bikesquad - Demo Squad
« Reply #238 on: December 07, 2015, 12:42:46 pm »
There were always falls.... some even made the papers.
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Re: Bikesquad - Demo Squad
« Reply #239 on: December 07, 2015, 12:47:10 pm »
Some more general demo squad pics.

First pic is from the Royal Show in Pmb I think.

The guys had a fat jol at all these country shows.
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