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E-Start not working
« on: November 07, 2015, 12:32:23 pm »
Last weekend on a trail here in the mountains where I live, I stalled my bike pulling away, when I tried to start it again the electric start won't work. I disassembled the actual start button and can't see any reason why it shouldn't work. Up to the time it stopped working the starter and battery was fine, I bumped started the bike without difficulty, and the headlight and instrument lights goes on when I turn the key. Anybody got any idea where I start looking for the problem?
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2015, 12:34:40 pm »
Ja, haal jou linker side cover af, daar is n fuse by die battery as ek reg onthou, kyk of hy geblaas is.
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2015, 06:53:50 am »
Disconect you clutch and side stand switch, they can just cause K@k, we had on on our last trip that did the same , if it does it again just jiggle the wire where it goes into the clutch housing and the bike will start.
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2015, 09:16:25 am »
No need to disconnect any of he safety switches. If any of the switches acts up you get very clear indications (side stand switch will kill the bike if you put it into gear, clutch switch will prevent the solenoid switch from closing and powering the starter.

First thing connect another battery and see if the problem persists.

In your case it's most likely the clutch switch. They act up either because they are filthy or because the clutch lever and / or lever perch are very badly worn. Hold starter button in and pull and wiggle clutch lever. If this does not help check wiring.
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2015, 02:25:23 pm »
Thanks for all the replies. yesterday I tried charging the battery, but it only charged for about 5min before showing Fully Charged on the charger. I disabled the side stand switched long ago so I doubt if thats the problem. I bypassed the clutch switch wires right after the starter stopped working, but it made no difference, Im going to recheck those wires again this afternoon. The fuse next to the battery is also fine. In the meantime all the other electrics seem fine.....the headlight goes on and the instruments switch on.
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2015, 03:29:22 pm »
Jump wire the starter relay on the side that goes to the starter if it swings then the relay is not switching if it doesn't then your starter brushes may be worn out
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2015, 03:38:02 pm »
Did you check the relay fuse?
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2015, 03:45:57 pm »
Did you check the relay fuse?

No, i only checked the main one on the battery. Where is the relay fuse?
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2015, 03:56:11 pm »
It happened to me once on the DRZ many moons ago when I still had one. It's a red fuse I think by the starter relay somewhere. I had to breach it with foil to get it started.
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2015, 05:32:20 pm »
If I bridge the starter relay with a screwdriver the starter motor turns. I don't see a fuse on the relay.
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2015, 05:55:33 pm »
If I bridge the starter relay with a screwdriver the starter motor turns. I don't see a fuse on the relay.

Does this mean I have to replace the starter relay?
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2015, 06:00:58 pm »
Is the starter switch not perhaps the problem? Not making contact? Is it clicking when you press it?
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2015, 06:03:34 pm »
Is the starter switch not perhaps the problem? Not making contact? Is it clicking when you press it?

I don't know, I disassembled the button and everything looks fine, not sure how to test it.
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2015, 06:10:25 pm »
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2015, 06:19:03 pm »
http://supermotojunkie.com/showthread.php?134990-Starter-relay-Help-please-drz400-sm

Lees hier deur, nogals interesant

My bike se simptome is bietjie anders, die speedo en instrumente, ligte etc. werk reg, en die bike verloor nie krag nie. Main fuse is fine en battery is ook fine.
 

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2015, 06:22:36 pm »
Nee fok, dan weet ek nie meer nie.

As Alles werk kry die relay nie Krag deur nie? Niks wat hom opfire nie?
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2015, 08:14:50 pm »
 :sip: En, die bike is hoe oud?, hoeveel Kilos op die klok? sal dit nie help nie?
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« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2015, 08:21:26 pm »
:sip: En, die bike is hoe oud?, hoeveel Kilos op die klok? sal dit nie help nie?

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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2015, 07:02:00 am »
there is a 2 mm red wire that runs from the battery under the seat , ther is a plug in connector there as well, some time this thing does not make great contact and the bike wont start , all the lights are on , but when you try and start every thing go`s dead , I cut out the plug and solderd my one togeather and that problem stopped , However I still think you need to investigate the clutch switch further , these switches are troublsome , and every DRZ owner I know has had problems with them, and your bike is giving every symptom of this stupid switch.
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Re: E-Start not working
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2015, 09:23:16 am »
... I cut out the plug and solderd my one togeather and that problem stopped ...

Never solder anything on automotive wiring looms. It's a recipe for nasty hard to find and intermittent electrical problems as the wirings copper strands start to break off from vibration where they emerge from the solder blob.
Rather get a simple to use and cheap crimping tool and lugs
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