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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #60 on: January 24, 2016, 12:06:09 pm »
So, Honda, after announcing that their telemetry proves that Rossi did kick MM and that they would make it publically available never did make it available.  Now they have made it available to the governing body, FIM.  Between Honda and the FIM they decided not to make this info available at all.  So much for transparency

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #61 on: January 25, 2016, 08:35:47 pm »
Honda's "transparency" in this case will embarrass themselves.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #62 on: January 26, 2016, 07:02:27 am »
Honda's "transparency" in this case will embarrass themselves.

Indeed.

Looking forward to this season.   Seems the manufacturers are all struggling to some extend with the new tires and ECU.   Some describe the changes as the biggest in a single season,  since the 2S to 4S change.   The team adapting fastest,  riders and techies ,  will have a good advantage.  

Honda:  Struggling with ECU not controlling a wild engine. Not enough 2016 bikes ready for the satelite teams to also test.
Yamaha:  Struggling with tire feel and feedback.  Not sure if 2016 chassis is better than the 2015 one.
Ducati:  Very quiet.  No news.
Suzuki:  Happy.  They have used a base ECU last year already.
Aprilia:  Feel they are making progress ,  but still way off in performance.
KTM:  Will only join in 2017, but tests seems. promising and they now have more test riders than anyone.
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #63 on: January 26, 2016, 10:09:06 am »
Honda's "transparency" in this case will embarrass themselves.

Indeed.

Looking forward to this season.   Seems the manufacturers are all struggling to some extend with the new tires and ECU.   Some describe the changes as the biggest in a single season,  since the 2S to 4S change.   The team adapting fastest,  riders and techies ,  will have a good advantage.  

Honda:  Struggling with ECU not controlling a wild engine. Not enough 2016 bikes ready for the satelite teams to also test.
Yamaha:  Struggling with tire feel and feedback.  Not sure if 2016 chassis is better than the 2015 one.
Ducati:  Very quiet.  No news. KC is testing for them, no feedback, even Italian press are grumpy
Suzuki:  Happy.  They have used a base ECU last year already.
Aprilia:  Feel they are making progress ,  but still way off in performance. 2016 bike will miss the first two testing sessions
KTM:  Will only join in 2017, but tests seems. promising and they now have more test riders than anyone. MCN reckons this the best "new" bike to be seen since the start of the 4T era
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #64 on: January 26, 2016, 06:32:26 pm »
Not sure what they mean with "best",  but it is clearly a company on a mission.
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #65 on: February 01, 2016, 10:36:57 am »
Ducati doing surprisingly well at the Sepang tests. Oh, wait, the ECU and software supplied and coded by Magneti Marelli engineers while the Michelins are manufatured right next door.  ;)

Not to worry, at the time of writing Lorenzo still posting the fastest laps.
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #66 on: February 01, 2016, 01:27:07 pm »
Day 1 testing from Sepang completed.

Fastest was Lorenzo with Rossi 2nd fastest.  Amazing thing is, with new tires and Dorna supplied ECU, Lorenzo's fastest time was 2.00.684.  His fastest during [practise and the race at Sepang last year was 2.00.606.  Rossi's time is also with thousands of his fastest at Sepang last year.

Behind the two factory Yamahas, we see Pedrosa, Petrucci, Ianone, Barbera and Marquez.


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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #67 on: February 01, 2016, 02:13:06 pm »
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #68 on: February 01, 2016, 04:44:50 pm »
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #69 on: February 01, 2016, 08:17:56 pm »
Was interesting hearing alot of positives out of Casey Stoner during Ducatis private test last week. I think he is on the bike tomorrow in Sepang. That will make for some interesting timings.
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #70 on: February 02, 2016, 05:46:20 am »
Was interesting hearing alot of positives out of Casey Stoner during Ducatis private test last week. I think he is on the bike tomorrow in Sepang. That will make for some interesting timings.

Yip, also looking forward to it. Will answer some questions about how good he really was/is. The Ducati's are running well.
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #71 on: February 02, 2016, 06:00:23 am »
They red flagged the first testing session after Loris Baz came off at around 300km/h. Some serious and sudden mechanical failure on the Ducati (engine/gearbox/tyre - they're still investigating). At the time Stoner was circulating 11th fastest.

Scheme all the Ducati riders will be a bit nervous now.
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #72 on: February 02, 2016, 06:07:54 am »
Yip session red flagged until cause of crash know. Seen pics on Twitter. lucky it seems to walk away from that 1
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #73 on: February 02, 2016, 06:12:05 am »
Back on track. Ducati currently 1st and second and not the Ducatis you'd expect. Patrucci and Barbera. Dam I can't wait for Qatar
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #74 on: February 02, 2016, 06:20:57 am »
Was interesting hearing alot of positives out of Casey Stoner during Ducatis private test last week. I think he is on the bike tomorrow in Sepang. That will make for some interesting timings.

Yip, also looking forward to it. Will answer some questions about how good he really was/is. The Ducati's are running well.

Think those questions were answered long ago.... Very very good indeed.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2016, 11:03:57 am »
With two hours left in the test. Stoner is 1.6 seconds off the pace of the front.

1.   =   Danilo Petrucci   ITA   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   0.095s   [Lap 9/31]
2.   =   Hector Barbera   ESP   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   0.387s   +0.292s   [6/7]
3.   =   Jorge Lorenzo   ESP   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m   0.833s   +0.738s   [8/17]
4.   =   Marc Marquez   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m   0.843s   +0.748s   [5/31]
5.   =   Scott Redding   GBR   Octo Pramac Yakhnich (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   1.049s   +0.954s   [3/26]
6.   =   Andrea Iannone   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15/16)   2m   1.052s   +0.957s   [9/27]
7.   =   Maverick Viņales   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m   1.421s   +1.326s   [4/33]
8.   =   Dani Pedrosa   ESP   Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)   2m   1.475s   +1.380s   [4/25]
9.   =   Valentino Rossi   ITA   Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)   2m   1.604s   +1.509s   [16/26]
10.   =   Yonny Hernandez   COL   Aspar MotoGP Team (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   1.644s   +1.549s   [7/23]
11.   =   Casey Stoner   ITA   Ducati Test Rider (Desmosedici GP15)   2m   1.699s   +1.604s   [10/22]
12.   =   Andrea Dovizioso   ITA   Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP15/16)   2m   1.723s   +1.628s   [12/19]
13.   =   Pol Espargaro   ESP   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m   1.992s   +1.897s   [6/14]
14.   =   Bradley Smith   GBR   Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)   2m   2.248s   +2.153s   [20/36]
15.   =   Tito Rabat   ESP   Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V)*   2m   2.328s   +2.233s   [5/28]
16.   =   Cal Crutchlow   GBR   LCR Honda (RC213V)   2m   2.331s   +2.236s   [4/28]
17.   =   Stefan Bradl   GER   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m   2.372s   +2.277s   [4/30]
18.   =   Loris Baz   FRA   Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2)   2m   2.611s   +2.516s   [12/12]
19.   =   Katsuyuki Nakasuga   JPN   Yamaha Test Rider (YZR-M1)   2m   2.710s   +2.615s   [4/32]
20.   =   Aleix Espargaro   ESP   Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)   2m   2.745s   +2.650s   [8/21]
21.   =   Alvaro Bautista   ESP   Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)   2m   2.876s   +2.781s   [4/30]
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2016, 11:14:59 am »
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

Somewhere in 1904 Danie?   I cannot remember.

You are out by 101 years exactly. In 2005 KTM, together with team Roberts, supplied engines to go into Proton KR chassis. The engines were dismal failures. leaving team Roberts with nothing.
 

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #77 on: February 02, 2016, 12:13:07 pm »
KTM has already had a brief dabble in MotoGP.

Somewhere in 1904 Danie?   I cannot remember.

You are out by 101 years exactly. In 2005 KTM, together with team Roberts, supplied engines to go into Proton KR chassis. The engines were dismal failures. leaving team Roberts with nothing.

Wow!  Yeah, I remember that now.  Completely forgot about that.

I wonder if it is the reason why KTM is so slow and deliberate in coming back into MGP this time round.  They seem to be really doing their homework.

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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #78 on: February 02, 2016, 01:35:49 pm »
Any ideas why Crutchlow seems slightly more off the pace than expected? Electronics maybe?
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Re: MotoGP 2016.
« Reply #79 on: February 02, 2016, 01:38:23 pm »
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