Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

Author Topic: APJ PR7  (Read 4426 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline wolf skaap

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2015, 09:47:21 pm »


looks like a winner to me  :thumleft:

Pipe routing doesn't look too bad to me
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 09:48:58 pm by wolf skaap »
Let the good times roll!
 

Offline zebra - Flying Brick

  • Forum Vendor: Flying Brick Motorcycle Accessories 021 510 6455 info@flyingbrick.co.za
  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 12,218
  • Thanked: 334 times
  • 8 Shropshire St, P Eiland S3354.712 E01828.208
    • [b]-Flying Brick- Motorcycle Accessories[/b]
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2015, 09:23:35 am »
Pipe routing is fine, probably better ('tighter') than some of the bikes we have back at home.

The MAIN point of difference will likely be that the SWM is a little less 'hard core' than the AJP, with it's larger wheel sizes.

Cheers
Chris
bike@flyingbrick.co.za CHRISTOPER L 021 510 6455  service@flyingbrick.co.za JAN 021 510 6455
sales@flyingbrick.co.za ANDRE 021 510 6455
orders@flyingbrick.co.za WERNER 021 510 6455
info@flyingbrick.co.za CHRIS G
 

Offline Xpat

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2015, 06:38:56 pm »
Quick visual comparo - the Superdual thingy is clearly not in the right proportion to the other bikes though:

« Last Edit: November 21, 2015, 06:47:58 pm by Xpat »
 

Offline Xpat

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2015, 07:09:06 pm »
And some more AJP pictures:














Offline zebra - Flying Brick

  • Forum Vendor: Flying Brick Motorcycle Accessories 021 510 6455 info@flyingbrick.co.za
  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 12,218
  • Thanked: 334 times
  • 8 Shropshire St, P Eiland S3354.712 E01828.208
    • [b]-Flying Brick- Motorcycle Accessories[/b]
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2015, 07:35:52 pm »
XPat: if I e-mail you close-ups of the SWM, can you format them, for me?

Battling with posting from iPad, despite getting advice.

Cheers
Chris
bike@flyingbrick.co.za CHRISTOPER L 021 510 6455  service@flyingbrick.co.za JAN 021 510 6455
sales@flyingbrick.co.za ANDRE 021 510 6455
orders@flyingbrick.co.za WERNER 021 510 6455
info@flyingbrick.co.za CHRIS G
 

Offline zebra - Flying Brick

  • Forum Vendor: Flying Brick Motorcycle Accessories 021 510 6455 info@flyingbrick.co.za
  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 12,218
  • Thanked: 334 times
  • 8 Shropshire St, P Eiland S3354.712 E01828.208
    • [b]-Flying Brick- Motorcycle Accessories[/b]
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2015, 07:37:59 pm »
And note that they have not yet finalized the seat, the tank shown is plastic, and the final will be metal (?), and they will be changing some SMALL items, and deciding on front wheel size, other than that the frame/geometry, etc is all buttoned-down.
Cheers
Chris
bike@flyingbrick.co.za CHRISTOPER L 021 510 6455  service@flyingbrick.co.za JAN 021 510 6455
sales@flyingbrick.co.za ANDRE 021 510 6455
orders@flyingbrick.co.za WERNER 021 510 6455
info@flyingbrick.co.za CHRIS G
 

Offline Xpat

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #46 on: November 21, 2015, 07:38:17 pm »
Sure, no problem. I think you have my email address - if not let me know.

Offline wolf skaap

Re:
« Reply #47 on: November 21, 2015, 09:30:38 pm »
Such a narrow bike with 17L of fuel!
I'm happy with the Husky motor too.

I've definitely seen better looking bikes but specs and ergo's seems on point!

Sent from my SM-G928C using Tapatalk
Let the good times roll!
 

Offline TK

  • Member
  • **
  • Bike: Husqvarna (all models)
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 361
  • Thanked: 9 times
  • Life's an adventure, enjoy the ride.
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2015, 11:51:50 am »
That SWM with all the gear on is actually quite nice. Not great looking but has the right goodies and hopefully all standard. Centre stand too.....that comes in handy. Interesting to see the small European manufacturers making a move in this segment of the market. Maybe Beta will follow.
 

Offline BlueBull2007

  • Caribbean
  • Global Moderator
  • Bachelor Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: AJS (all models)
    Location: Other
  • Posts: 10,355
  • Thanked: 392 times
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2015, 07:30:54 pm »
The only problem seems to be there is no place to tie saddle bags on. I guess its time to get a bigger backpack.
Rally nut. What could possibly go wrong?
Living the Rally Dream - Ride Report
Current bike: KTM 350 EXC   Previous bikes:  2010 WR450F, 2006 KTM450EXC,KTM 450RR, BMW800GS, KTM450EXC, BMW650 GS, BMW650 Dakar, and Honda XR250
 

Offline subie

  • Local Mods
  • Bachelor Dog
  • ***
  • Bike: Yamaha XT660
    Location: Gauteng
  • Posts: 10,002
  • Thanked: 244 times
  • Liberalism is the ideology of Western suicide.
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #50 on: November 22, 2015, 08:01:18 pm »
Like the superdual but without the panniers and tankbag. Soft luggage for me.
Like the lazy looking "rake and trail" on this bike too. Might just be the pic though.
As time washes by, our footprints are all for naught
 

Offline Acajou

  • Member
  • **
  • Bike: Suzuki DR650
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 192
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #51 on: November 23, 2015, 07:00:24 am »
Both look quite nice, and the 610 motor/gearbox combo is a winner. I prefer the PR7 though, it seems a little more dirt-oriented with a bit higher ground clearance
2010 Suzuki DR650
2009 Yamaha WR450F
2000 Suzuki GN250
 

Offline wiledog_X

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #52 on: November 23, 2015, 10:20:47 am »
SWM Superdual specs...  really nice.  :thumleft:

http://www.swm-motorcycles.it/en/models/adventure/superdual/

"What happen!!? Someone set up us the bomb!! We get signal. All your base are belong to us!!!"
 

Offline Xpat

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #53 on: November 23, 2015, 12:37:01 pm »
SWM Superdual specs...  really nice.  :thumleft:


I'm sorry, I seem to be an oddball here, but to me that thing looks plain wrong - they try to mimic a look of 1200 panzer on a small and relatively light bike with metal pannier and unnecessary crashbars (and put 19/17 wheels on - why?). I would rather buy the SWM equivalent of TE630 (they make it - I think it is called 650 enduro or some such) and fit it out like I did my 630, like so:



or even better:





Safari tank provides all protection I need, and soft luggage is vastly superior to me as it doesn't rattle offtar, is not fixed to one position and can be moved forward to lessen stress on the subframe and for better COG, and is much more durable than metal (crash it once properly and you done).

Offline Omninorm

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #54 on: November 23, 2015, 02:07:47 pm »
I really like this. We have way too little options. The Husky 701 is a 690...so kinda still 1 option.
What I'm wondering about though is where they are going to sell this as this can't be aimed at Europe at all since bikes above 125cc needs to have ABS brakes from 1 January 2016.
Since does not have that from the specs, are they not factoring in Europe at all and simply catering to USA and maybe RSA? If it's us will it be a direct import from Australia then?
 
Current: :
Previous:  KTM 690 Enduro R , BMW G310GS, BMW 1200GS LC, BMW F800GS, Suzuki Vstrom 650, Honda Transalp XLV700, BMW Xchallenge, BMW Xcountry, Yamaha WR250F, Honda NC750X, Honda XR150, Kawasaki KLX450R, Yamaha YZ250, Kawasaki KX450, Yamaha YZ250F,  KTM 250 XCW, Yamaha DT125, Yamaha DT50, Honda NSR250, Yamaha RZ 50.
 

Offline zebra - Flying Brick

  • Forum Vendor: Flying Brick Motorcycle Accessories 021 510 6455 info@flyingbrick.co.za
  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 12,218
  • Thanked: 334 times
  • 8 Shropshire St, P Eiland S3354.712 E01828.208
    • [b]-Flying Brick- Motorcycle Accessories[/b]
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #55 on: November 23, 2015, 02:23:50 pm »
I really like this. We have way too little options. The Husky 701 is a 690...so kinda still 1 option.
What I'm wondering about though is where they are going to sell this as this can't be aimed at Europe at all since bikes above 125cc needs to have ABS brakes from 1 January 2016.
Since does not have that from the specs, are they not factoring in Europe at all and simply catering to USA and maybe RSA? If it's us will it be a direct import from Australia then?
 
I had a meeting with the SWM people, ABS is about 8-12 months behind the launch of the SWM bike, they already have Australian and South American distributors in place for export of non-ABS bike, they are deciding on which of 2 ABS systems to go for, Bosch or another, since both products add significantly to the cost of the bike.
So expect an ABS-version of the SWM around EICMA 2016...
Cheers
Chris
bike@flyingbrick.co.za CHRISTOPER L 021 510 6455  service@flyingbrick.co.za JAN 021 510 6455
sales@flyingbrick.co.za ANDRE 021 510 6455
orders@flyingbrick.co.za WERNER 021 510 6455
info@flyingbrick.co.za CHRIS G
 

Offline Omninorm

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #56 on: November 23, 2015, 02:27:15 pm »
I really like this. We have way too little options. The Husky 701 is a 690...so kinda still 1 option.
What I'm wondering about though is where they are going to sell this as this can't be aimed at Europe at all since bikes above 125cc needs to have ABS brakes from 1 January 2016.
Since does not have that from the specs, are they not factoring in Europe at all and simply catering to USA and maybe RSA? If it's us will it be a direct import from Australia then?
 
I had a meeting with the SWM people, ABS is about 8-12 months behind the launch of the SWM bike, they already have Australian and South American distributors in place for export of non-ABS bike, they are deciding on which of 2 ABS systems to go for, Bosch or another, since both products add significantly to the cost of the bike.
So expect an ABS-version of the SWM around EICMA 2016...
Cheers
Chris

Thanks Chris!
Current: :
Previous:  KTM 690 Enduro R , BMW G310GS, BMW 1200GS LC, BMW F800GS, Suzuki Vstrom 650, Honda Transalp XLV700, BMW Xchallenge, BMW Xcountry, Yamaha WR250F, Honda NC750X, Honda XR150, Kawasaki KLX450R, Yamaha YZ250, Kawasaki KX450, Yamaha YZ250F,  KTM 250 XCW, Yamaha DT125, Yamaha DT50, Honda NSR250, Yamaha RZ 50.
 

Offline zebra - Flying Brick

  • Forum Vendor: Flying Brick Motorcycle Accessories 021 510 6455 info@flyingbrick.co.za
  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 12,218
  • Thanked: 334 times
  • 8 Shropshire St, P Eiland S3354.712 E01828.208
    • [b]-Flying Brick- Motorcycle Accessories[/b]
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #57 on: November 25, 2015, 01:22:37 pm »
some pics of the APJ PRV:

Cheers
Chris & Team
bike@flyingbrick.co.za CHRISTOPER L 021 510 6455  service@flyingbrick.co.za JAN 021 510 6455
sales@flyingbrick.co.za ANDRE 021 510 6455
orders@flyingbrick.co.za WERNER 021 510 6455
info@flyingbrick.co.za CHRIS G
 

Offline Omninorm

Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #58 on: November 25, 2015, 01:58:57 pm »
I really like this bike.  :P
Current: :
Previous:  KTM 690 Enduro R , BMW G310GS, BMW 1200GS LC, BMW F800GS, Suzuki Vstrom 650, Honda Transalp XLV700, BMW Xchallenge, BMW Xcountry, Yamaha WR250F, Honda NC750X, Honda XR150, Kawasaki KLX450R, Yamaha YZ250, Kawasaki KX450, Yamaha YZ250F,  KTM 250 XCW, Yamaha DT125, Yamaha DT50, Honda NSR250, Yamaha RZ 50.
 

Offline zebra - Flying Brick

  • Forum Vendor: Flying Brick Motorcycle Accessories 021 510 6455 info@flyingbrick.co.za
  • Bachelor Dog
  • *****
  • Bike: BMW (all models)
    Location: Western Cape
  • Posts: 12,218
  • Thanked: 334 times
  • 8 Shropshire St, P Eiland S3354.712 E01828.208
    • [b]-Flying Brick- Motorcycle Accessories[/b]
Re: APJ PR7
« Reply #59 on: November 25, 2015, 04:21:19 pm »
and some SWM 600 pics, same motor as the APJ PR7 , different design concept...

Cheers
Chris & Team
bike@flyingbrick.co.za CHRISTOPER L 021 510 6455  service@flyingbrick.co.za JAN 021 510 6455
sales@flyingbrick.co.za ANDRE 021 510 6455
orders@flyingbrick.co.za WERNER 021 510 6455
info@flyingbrick.co.za CHRIS G