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Offline Beebop

New traffic laws
« on: November 19, 2015, 09:59:25 am »
Surely just enforcing existing laws would suffice ???

http://www.wheels24.co.za/Road_Trip/new-road-rules-for-sa-5-laws-govt-want-to-pass-20151119

The draft regulations, published in the Government Gazette, propose these 5 changes to legislation:

 1 Drivers to be re-evaluated when renewing a licence
 2 No more than five people to be carried in a bakkie load bed
 3 Children not to be transported in a bakkie load bed
 4 Speed limits to be reduced from 60 to 40km/h in urban areas, from 100 to 80km/h in rural areas and from 120 to 100km/h on freeways running through a residential area
 5 Goods vehicles above 9000kg GVM to be banned from public roads during peak travelling times
 

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2015, 10:24:40 am »
Just no 4 is stupid.
No 5 had been canvassed since the 1980's
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2015, 10:28:41 am »
It takes months to get a booking for a learners or licence, now they want to re-evaluate everyone every 5 years?

Ha, they'll need to quadruple their staff first.
 

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2015, 10:35:05 am »
i agree 4 is stupid. it will just make traffic worse and probably result in more road rage and accidents.
5 i agree and dont agree. within major cities they shouldn't be on the roads during peak hours. but there is no point pulling a truck off the road beacuse it is now law but there are no cars on the road.

if im not mistaken at the moment you are not allowed to transport people on a bakkie. which is a circumstantial thing imo. i grew up riding in the back of my dads bakkie. and im still here today. its when the oke driving drives like a d**s that it becomes dangerous.
 

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2015, 10:36:14 am »
It takes months to get a booking for a learners or licence, now they want to re-evaluate everyone every 5 years?

Ha, they'll need to quadruple their staff first.


or get their staff to actually do their job for a change :-\
 

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2015, 10:44:21 am »
EISH!!!!!!!!!!!  E V E R Y T H I N G she's a chellenge!
 

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 10:47:18 am »
Not allowed to carry people on a OPEN bakkie.

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2015, 10:55:37 am »
Yip, meaning more tax for us to pay.
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2015, 11:00:31 am »
This is what gets me. Current speed limits was set in the 80's. Compare the average car/bike of the 80's vs today and handling, safety, etc. is almost incomparable in the way it advanced, yet they want to lower, instead of increase the speedlimit. Speed doesn't kill, stupid (and probably illegal) drivers kill
 

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2015, 01:17:04 pm »
It says re-evaluated, not re-tested.
What form is said evaluation going to take?
 

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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2015, 01:26:27 pm »
Cash bribes?
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2015, 01:38:48 pm »
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2015, 01:42:29 pm »
Well, then I will probably be crucified for this...  :peepwall:

I think the proposed new laws are good. IF, and only IF they (the authorities) are able to:
a) properly implement it
b) properly enforce it.

As a paramedic I've personally picked up dead kids that were on the back of a bakkie. And lets not get into the effect speed has on a collision. And just maybe, some of the people who shouldn't be driving will not get their licenses renewed.

If this can help to lead to safer roads, then I'll support it.  :thumleft:
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2015, 06:30:46 pm »
1 They cannot enforce the existing laws they have now, efficiently
2 You cannot regulate resposibility into a population
3 Lowering the speed limit will achieve nothing as 90% of the road users don't obey them anyway? unless you have a pimped lowride with doubble devorce pipes and baboon tyres that cannot go over 30kph nor anything bigger than a corrigation?
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Offline KaTooMatt

Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2015, 11:05:14 am »
Well, then I will probably be crucified for this...  :peepwall:

I think the proposed new laws are good. IF, and only IF they (the authorities) are able to:
a) properly implement it
b) properly enforce it.

As a paramedic I've personally picked up dead kids that were on the back of a bakkie. And lets not get into the effect speed has on a collision. And just maybe, some of the people who shouldn't be driving will not get their licenses renewed.

If this can help to lead to safer roads, then I'll support it.  :thumleft:

The sad reality is that if they policed the existing laws correctly they would not need these new laws. It is already illegal to carry people in the back of a bakkie unless they work for you and you are going to a job. As it is illegal to employ anyone under 16 it is illegal to have kids in the back of a bakkie. No new law required.

If it was impossible to buy your licence then all the drivers on the road will have been tested and the average driving standard would improve.

I do agree with the peak hour ban. It is applied in other countries and makes rush hour a lot easier. It will be hard for our transport industry as it is an industry that is not used to planning. Their driver picks up a load drives till he gets to the destination waits while the vehicle is off loaded. No schedule is offered and if you can get an estimated delivery time it is not likely to be met. As such they will have to lear to plan or you will have trucks blocking highways and intersections as they park up and wait for the end of rush hour.
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2015, 11:13:14 am »
All the new laws will be good for is genrating more income.....for the ANC......
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2015, 11:23:49 am »
Why dont they just force everyone to spend one year on a superbike. The stupid will perish and the intelligent or responsible will multiply.
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2015, 11:45:14 am »
Then throw RTQS and the demerit point system into the mix  :imaposer:

It is a joke on so many levels. :deal:
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Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2015, 11:53:04 am »
Surely just enforcing existing laws would suffice ???

http://www.wheels24.co.za/Road_Trip/new-road-rules-for-sa-5-laws-govt-want-to-pass-20151119

The draft regulations, published in the Government Gazette, propose these 5 changes to legislation:

 1 Drivers to be re-evaluated when renewing a licence
2 No more than five people to be carried in a bakkie load bed
 3 Children not to be transported in a bakkie load bed
 4 Speed limits to be reduced from 60 to 40km/h in urban areas, from 100 to 80km/h in rural areas and from 120 to 100km/h on freeways running through a residential area
 5 Goods vehicles above 9000kg GVM to be banned from public roads during peak travelling times
:imaposer: :laughing4: :imaposer: Quite funny, try and enforce this in the farming community will make a good Leon Schuster movie.

A cop stopped me once with 20 people on the back and told me told me that they must get off. I politely told him to decide which ones must get off and walk the 20km home. It took about 10sec for the workers to threaten him with burning his fancy cop car.
He left quietly without saying a thing.......
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 11:53:33 am by SchalkL »
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Offline Sláinte Mhaith

Re: New traffic laws
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2015, 12:18:44 pm »
:imaposer: :laughing4: :imaposer: Quite funny, try and enforce this in the farming community will make a good Leon Schuster movie.

A cop stopped me once with 20 people on the back and told me told me that they must get off. I politely told him to decide which ones must get off and walk the 20km home. It took about 10sec for the workers to threaten him with burning his fancy cop car.
He left quietly without saying a thing.......

Bliksem.
20 people on the back of a bakkie and you making jokes about it?
That would be fairly overloaded weight wise.

Little difference between that and this:


Came across an accident where the bakkie had a couple of construction workers on the back. Not a pretty sight.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2015, 12:25:04 pm by Sláinte Mhaith »