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BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« on: December 03, 2015, 10:01:05 am »
BoosterPlugs are now available for the R1200GS and R1200GS LC.
BMWs run too lean, causing all kinds of issues. The BoosterPlug makes a the engine run richer just under acceleration to overcome classic problems like pinging, hunting, lack of low rpm response and sensitive throttles.
The BoosterPlug fixes the flat spot at 120km/h on LCs.
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2015, 04:56:29 pm »
Myne het geen flat spots nie ???
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2015, 06:36:03 pm »
I asked on the other forum when you advertised this, but there was no reply. What is the difference between this and the accelerator module? They both plug inline with the bike's air temp sensor?

Edit: No flat spot on my bike either.
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2015, 09:21:40 pm »
BP and AM pretty much the same thing,  but "invented"  and then marketed by different clever dudes.

If memory serves,  the BP does not have its own temperature probe.

No flat spots on my or my bike either.
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2015, 11:07:36 pm »
Yip. indeed - no flat spot at any (reasonable) speed.  Only upright spot  :biggrin:
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2015, 09:17:14 am »
Feedback I had from LC riders installing is that there is a hesitancy to pick up revs in higher gear - 4000rpm at 120km/h accelerating to 140km/h. Bike pulls through smoothly after installation of a BoosterPlug. I don't ride one and can go on feedback only.
The two gentlemen has different views on the units. One tapers the effect towards 0C while the other says that it holds no significance to an engine. It is just another reference point on a scale. The BoosterPlug compensates at evenly 6% from -30C till 50C.
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2015, 10:23:33 am »
There is a lot of electronics at play when accelerating with the new LC.  So unless you can eliminate ALL traction control effects under acceleration (and then compare with and without the BP), it would be difficult to say what is ascribed to fuel mapping or TC or anything else.  I remain sceptical of fitting one.  I have never experienced pinging or flat spots, but I have experienced TC kicking in on a wet, slippery road.  It also felt like a flat spot but probably saved my bacon.  I think best is to leave well alone.
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2015, 11:07:22 am »
Mine was running extremely lean as well but made a huge difference after I fitted an AC module.
 

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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2015, 02:57:03 pm »
There is a lot of electronics at play when accelerating with the new LC.  So unless you can eliminate ALL traction control effects under acceleration (and then compare with and without the BP), it would be difficult to say what is ascribed to fuel mapping or TC or anything else.  I remain sceptical of fitting one.  I have never experienced pinging or flat spots, but I have experienced TC kicking in on a wet, slippery road.  It also felt like a flat spot but probably saved my bacon.  I think best is to leave well alone.

We are currently looking at an interesting thing.  My wife and I have 2014 spec LC's.  Mine seldom pings and then only under the most adverse conditions.  Her's pings quite easily under acceleration, but her's pulls harder than mine.  Possibly an ignition timing thing?
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2015, 09:43:47 pm »
Boosterplug AGAIN I have yet to ride a LC with a flatspot
 

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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2015, 05:33:05 am »
Just so I understand this right. The LC also runs too lean and pings? Not all but some?

Other than my 800gs I had this issue on all my BMW'S. 1150 single spark,1200gs normal and hex head and the worst of the lot was my new Sertao. I fitted the Booster plug to both the 1200,s and now the Sertao and it cured the pinging. Granted on the Sertao BMW also sent out an ECU software upgrade. While I can't comment on the flat spot issues In my experience they work in pinging department

@Thebear it would be interesting if you could try one on your wife's bike and report if it helps cure the pinging?
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #11 on: December 06, 2015, 05:23:56 pm »
Just so I understand this right. The LC also runs too lean and pings? Not all but some?

Other than my 800gs I had this issue on all my BMW'S. 1150 single spark,1200gs normal and hex head and the worst of the lot was my new Sertao. I fitted the Booster plug to both the 1200,s and now the Sertao and it cured the pinging. Granted on the Sertao BMW also sent out an ECU software upgrade. While I can't comment on the flat spot issues In my experience they work in pinging department

@Thebear it would be interesting if you could try one on your wife's bike and report if it helps cure the pinging?

It would be interesting.   I did try the AM from my 09 model,  but that made no difference,  possibly the incorrect resistance,  or something.   When on leave in later I will take her bike into Bavarian and ask them to check it out.

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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2015, 12:42:23 pm »
What exactly is this flat spot at 120km/h that's constantly being referred to? I tested my K51 under a number of variances in number of gears but don't seem to experience the flat spot in question?
 

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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2015, 06:13:52 pm »
What exactly is this flat spot at 120km/h that's constantly being referred to? I tested my K51 under a number of variances in number of gears but don't seem to experience the flat spot in question?
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2015, 07:36:34 am »
What exactly is this flat spot at 120km/h that's constantly being referred to? I tested my K51 under a number of variances in number of gears but don't seem to experience the flat spot in question?
It's a marketing term invented to convince you that you need this booster plug thing.
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2015, 08:35:09 am »
What exactly is this flat spot at 120km/h that's constantly being referred to? I tested my K51 under a number of variances in number of gears but don't seem to experience the flat spot in question?
It's a marketing term invented to convince you that you need this booster plug thing.
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That's exactly what the Kawasaki dealers told KLR owners about the Eagle lever for two decades :evil6:
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2015, 11:08:57 am »
What exactly is this flat spot at 120km/h that's constantly being referred to? I tested my K51 under a number of variances in number of gears but don't seem to experience the flat spot in question?
It's a marketing term invented to convince you that you need this booster plug thing.
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That's exactly what the Kawasaki dealers told KLR owners about the Eagle lever for two decades :evil6:

I am not sure that the two arguments are comparable.  Are pinging and flat spots on the K51 a well documented and universally accepted problem?
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2015, 01:00:34 pm »
What exactly is this flat spot at 120km/h that's constantly being referred to? I tested my K51 under a number of variances in number of gears but don't seem to experience the flat spot in question?
It's a marketing term invented to convince you that you need this booster plug thing.

what flat spot...............  maybe for some, it is the hesitation...  of the wrist........  just before we cruise past the speed limit on the freeway??

no flat spot on my GSA LC
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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2015, 09:46:11 am »
What the heck is Pinging? sorry if I'm out of the loop here... (haha, pun intended I think the PB only works in a closed loop)

But the only pinging I can think of is when you hit the rev limiter :)
 

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Re: BoosterPlug for R1200GS LC
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2015, 01:00:55 pm »
What the heck is Pinging? sorry if I'm out of the loop here... (haha, pun intended I think the PB only works in a closed loop)

But the only pinging I can think of is when you hit the rev limiter :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_knocking

I must say that while my (previous, 2014 LC) bike has no flat spot, it pinged when used in dyna mode. My GSA does not ping at all.