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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2015, 10:38:53 am »
wat gaan dan hier aan dat hier niks aan gaan nie?
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2015, 01:43:55 pm »
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2016, 07:26:02 am »

Next time he borrows a bike, I will have to add a ban on publications to the conditions ......   :deal:

.... or a condition of "pre-publication approval .... "    :sip:
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2016, 07:57:09 am »
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2016, 09:04:53 am »
Obviously enjoying the BM so much that he is taking the long way round route to work these days!

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2016, 09:26:09 am »
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I would actually like a review of these vs 1200GS. I have some friends that does not do gravel on their GS's so I am always thinking or wondering why they wont just get an RT

There would be only one reason. When the tar stops and the ride isnt over, they want to be able...

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2016, 05:55:57 pm »
I looked at these a while back when BMW launched the 1600,there were some good bargains to be had on the 1200. I am not a fan of the boxer motor but the bike makes a pretty decent tourer.
I still think in this category I would go for a FJR,but they are not easy to find.
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2016, 09:05:31 pm »
Take the RT for a breakfast run to Knysna, then you will know what it can really do  :deal:
it eats up the k's without breaking a sweat
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2016, 01:54:22 pm »
So I'm back at the grind, which means I have taken some time out from surfing and biking, to sit behind a desk and write about this bike...  :peepwall:

Before I continue about the overall ride experience, I want to touch on the gearbox. Apparently, all the gearboxes on the boxer motors and quite clunky (at the lack of a better word). After riding this bike for about two weeks, you kinda find the sweet spot and you can change without too much discomfort. Other riders have mentioned that the gearbox of the RT is MUCH smoother than that of the typical GS. I still find it rougher than my KTM.

But back to twisty road past Betties...

My perception of this bike is that it leans over easier (and perhaps further?) than your typical ADV bike, making the handling really soft in the corners. It's also very responsive and gives good feedback of how much further I should have been able to push her, but I couldn't find the courage (read BALLS) to do so. Same goes for the ABS. At one point, I rode about 20 kmph and slammed the back break to give it a test and I suppose it worked, as it didn't lock the wheel. If it's quicker than a normal stop, well let's just say that the jury is still out on that one...

Obviously with the seat height being lower, one is closer to the road. This in combination with aerodynamics, makes the bike feel more stable . It also happens to result in your knees being bent more than I'm used too. As for wind protection... What wind? The screen is adjustable for what I suppose is a more sporty feel (low on the bike) as opposed to more cruising (flatter, higher). I found a nice middle way and just left if there. I would make a wild guess and say that you probably won't get too wet if you're traveling drizzling conditions, as long as you don't stop.

What else? Mmmm... Aha, cruise control! Hahahaha, not something I ever thought I'd use, but it's nice to give your right wrist a rest every now and then.

I think we'd all like to say that we ride enough gravel to justify the adventure bikes, but in reality, most of us ride enough tar to justify having one of these. Now considering that this second hand RT plus a new Honda XR650L (or similar) is cheaper than a new KTM 1190 or GS1200Adv, I'm wondering why there aren't more people that choose to have two bikes more suited to each specific cause, rather than having one bike that sort-off does both good, but not great (my opinion leaning towards smaller bikes for technical off-road touring).

All things considered, this bike has changed my perspective of the typical executive riding his fancy touring bike. I used to look down on them, but they never seemed to care much. Now I know why...

I saw a number of other bikes in passing and the reactions were different to that when I'm riding my KTM, but I was so content on this bike, that even the KTM that wheelied from the traffic light to show me how boring I was, failed to impress. Will I sell my KTM for one of these? Probably not soon, my ego wouldn't allow me to, but I'll always have eye for these. And perhaps in the far, far future, who knows...?
« Last Edit: January 12, 2016, 02:57:03 pm by Archangel »
 

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2016, 02:26:14 pm »
Now you got me thinking..... an RT & a XR.....

No... Stop. Wife = Death-stare......

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2016, 02:42:36 pm »
Very good write up, maybe because its what I want to read  :ricky:
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2016, 02:39:56 pm »

OK, he did such a good job with this write-up, now I will have to lend him my R1200S for a write-up as welll .....  :imaposer:
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2016, 03:13:46 pm »
El let nou eers op na die ho handlebars op jou fiets. Die ryposisie  is baie hor. Help daai deflektor genoeg vir die wind.

Sorry vir die hijack Archangel, maar aanvaar die aanbod. Die S is iets heel van 'n ander kleur :thumleft:
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2016, 12:11:22 pm »
Ek het al met daai bike gery en ek's nogsteeds bang...

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2016, 12:27:03 pm »
Some more pics.

Just past Kogelbaai



In ride photo at Betties



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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2016, 12:59:06 pm »
Archangel, eks nie verbaas dat die RT jou beindruk het nie.

iets wat ek al tot vervelens toe op hierdie forum gese het is...

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2016, 01:18:23 pm »
I would make a wild guess and say that you probably won't get too wet if you're traveling drizzling conditions, as long as you don't stop.

At around 100+ with the screen up you stay pretty much completely dry in light to mild rain
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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2016, 01:31:22 pm »
Now considering that this second hand RT plus a new Honda XR650L (or similar) is cheaper than a new KTM 1190 or GS1200Adv, I'm wondering why there aren't more people that choose to have two bikes more suited to each specific cause, rather than having one bike that sort-off does both good, but not great (my opinion leaning towards smaller bikes for technical off-road touring).
 

I can agree more I have both a silver RT 1200 and a Dakar 650 now in process of looking for a decent XR or DR as the second bike to replace the Dakar for my two bike stable.
The wife happy to ride pillion on RT but does not enjoy the Dakar or even my previous BMW 1150GSA. I sold the GSA and decided to go the two bike option that you suggest.
 

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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2016, 01:43:12 pm »
Ek het hierbo ges: Net nie rooi nie, maar die foto  :drif: :drif: Dis mooi

Some more pics.

Just past Kogelbaai




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Re: A Dance with the Fat Lady in RED - (BMW R1200RT reviewed by KTM 950 rider)
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2016, 09:15:28 am »
Now imagine even you were given the chance to ride a modern RT?

Thks for your comments.

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