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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #60 on: March 31, 2016, 04:10:22 pm »
we communicated via e-mail - he knows who I am.

Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

A big ask, but I'd like to do a Roof before I hang up my boots  :thumleft:

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #61 on: April 01, 2016, 08:08:31 am »
Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

That's a bit rough.... you have a lot of riding and racing experience, including a 2014 Ama finish?

 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #62 on: April 01, 2016, 08:15:35 am »
So wait, let me understand this....

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WHAT?

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Here we have a relatively young rallye event (that ideally wants as many entries as possible???), already becoming exclusive? What about the supposed old time "spirit of the Dakar", where people attempted the impossible with crazy ideas and dreams. Two strokes, Vespa's etc. Privateers on home built bikes doing Malle Moto.

If someone does not have what it takes they simply wont finish. Or if their bike is completely unsuited they wont either. That is up to them, don't take the decision for them.

I hope I'm very wrong...








 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #63 on: April 01, 2016, 09:35:32 am »
I'm also still stunned.

I might understand if it was an unknown newbie, but in this case we are talking about a serious hard man who has demonstrated the goods.

EDIT:

I understand much better now. Being typically bloubul stubborn  ::) , I had to ask someone on the organizing team of the Amageza. This was the response I got (always good to hear both sides of any story):

We allow many riders who don't necessarily qualify, based on their CV and training regimen (including you! You better TRAIN. lol).

I don't know his real name either but he can surely send a email stating why he should be allowed to enter and we'll most likely allow him.

The duck-walkers must PLEASE STAY HOME this year! 2016 will be tough, Dakar-tough.

No way a Dakar Challenge winner from Amageza is not completing the 2018 Dakar!!  
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 12:47:14 pm by BlueBull2007 »
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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #64 on: April 01, 2016, 12:48:50 pm »
Eish. This year is going to be moerse hard....

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2016, 03:23:33 pm »
I think so as well BB ! Taai -Tough ! 2016 AMAGEZA
This coming week , also the Dakar Challenge, free entry to Dakar for the Malle Moto winner, is the Sonora Rally. (Like Amageza 2016)
Have to follow that somehow. BB you have already mentioned it. Thanks for that post, would have misted it.
I see on their REGS that they may only use DOT approved rear tyres on the bikes.   
 
 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2016, 03:40:35 pm »
Ja, the DOT tyres a bit of an FIM lark. Most good tyres are DOT approved.
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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2016, 04:28:59 pm »
Some tyres are "off-road use only" which means in SA if you are going to do any public roads the bike will strictly nor be road legal with these.

Any decent tyres suitable for an event like this will probably be road legal.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2016, 06:36:08 pm by Geel Kat »
 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2016, 04:50:25 pm »
Ja, the DOT tyres a bit of an FIM lark. Most good tyres are DOT approved.
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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #69 on: April 01, 2016, 07:09:13 pm »
K - I am in  :thumleft: :ricky:
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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #70 on: April 01, 2016, 08:23:41 pm »
Paid and entered. Malle Moto all the way. I'll sleep when I'm dead.

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #71 on: April 01, 2016, 09:13:08 pm »
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders. Sometimes the same guy multiple times. This is why he has entry requirements so he logistically can handle the recoveries. At the same time he has vision and wants to grow this thing and have as many entries as possible. Don't be too quick to give up on an entry position. If you don't meet the requirements now November is a long way off. Prove you can hack it. Maybe the desert race or a few National off roads would do the trick. Maybe a 24 hour 1000km ride through Lesotho with a couple mates. Think Wessel Bosman and his ride to Eygpt to get a Dakar place. Think outside the box, maybe tell him your plan and see if he makes a deal with you for a starting spot if you accomplish what you set out to do. Give him a reason to think "Damn I need this oke in my race".  If it was easy everyone would do it. Maybe him telling you "No, your not good enough" is just what you need to find your motivation. Make him eat those words.

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #72 on: April 01, 2016, 09:56:06 pm »
If Alex has a problem recovering stranded riders, best he stop growing his dream right now.

I mean, WTF?
 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2016, 10:28:40 pm »
we communicated via e-mail - he knows who I am.

Not allowed to do Amageza unless I did Baja - Sort of got my back up a bit and I just thought, fuck it, not the end of the world. I'll concentrate my energies elsewhere.

A big ask, but I'd like to do a Roof before I hang up my boots  :thumleft:


its cos you are a duckwalking old toppie and had to be towed by a 250 in 2014.
and you finished it on a KLR , not good for Amageze reputation :biggrin: :pot:
roof sounds like a nice challenge
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Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2016, 12:26:48 am »
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!
 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #75 on: April 02, 2016, 01:06:23 am »
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!

Its hard work and having been swept myself, its hard work, very long hours and a lot of driving in very rough terrain that WILL damage your vehicle, you might need to do some training yourself just for this! Its fun in a masochistic kind of way or if you are crazy. And it will be an adventure in its own right, picking up the pieces of broken dreams, broken bikes and maybe some broken riders too. Just ask Geel Kat. If you are still keen, I would suggest reaching out to him directly.  director@amageza.com  :deal:
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Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #76 on: April 02, 2016, 05:18:51 am »
Alex has a big problem with recovery of stranded riders.

Where can I put my name down...? I've got a 4x4 and a bike trailer which can carry 3 bikes....I'll GLADLY come and do recoveries if I can get a t-shirt...Alex come in!
This is almost harder than Amageza itself
Definitely less sleep.
Make sure it is an old 4x4 and a tough one at that
If you can do this job, you would have earned that Tshirt and can wear it proudly.
Alex needs people that can assist in this regard.
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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2016, 07:58:04 am »
If Alex has a problem recovering stranded riders, best he stop growing his dream right now.

I mean, WTF?

Last year recoveries were made much more trouble by two recovery teams abandoning their job on the first day! The distances involved now meant that our ad hoc recovery teams were often a day behind the race. Added to this many riders were so slow that they were getting into bivvy maybe 12 hours or more after the first rider. This put a huge strain on the very small organisation to have to divert crew to other jobs as well and having to cope with 20 to 22 hour days. We really don't want people racing in the night - the risks (one dead kudu - one lucky rider last year) are insane.

So naturally Alex would prefer racers to survivors.

So, Dan, why don't you come and help? A Leatt brace is only necessary if you stick your neck out too much.
 

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Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #78 on: April 02, 2016, 08:06:06 am »
If Alex has a problem recovering stranded riders, best he stop growing his dream right now.

I mean, WTF?

Exactly.

If you want the race to be tough and you want a 40% finish rate, you will recover riders.

If you want the race to be safe get 20 racing gods on factory bikes. Then everyone will be in the bivvy by 2pm.
 

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Re: Re: Amageza Rallye 2016: Entries OPEN (South Africa & Namibia)
« Reply #79 on: April 02, 2016, 08:52:33 am »
Edit, seems my post was offensive, herewith my apology.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2016, 11:50:43 am by Geel Kat »