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Offline Hankeeb

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Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« on: January 17, 2016, 11:26:05 am »
Hi dogs,

How many Rally style events are there for new comers to the sport?

Maybe 1,2 or 3 day rallies with standard road worthy bikes on a low budget.  Something to ease people into the sport?

Please share any info you have, will be greatly appreciated!
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2016, 12:13:07 pm »
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=186482.0

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2016, 12:18:12 pm »
Think that's the right one now, although sort of in the middle of the thread.  I am considering the same as you on a Ktm 640 and this seems to be one of the best entry level ones.
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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2016, 12:21:37 pm »
Think that's the right one now, although sort of in the middle of the thread.  I am considering the same as you on a Ktm 640 and this seems to be one of the best entry level ones.

Thanks! Let me have a read through it! :)
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2016, 01:18:53 pm »
How about something like this: (???)
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=186415.0

It's not multi-day, but it is off-road and it is a race . . . (and suitable for beginners, apparently)
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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2016, 02:21:36 pm »
How about something like this: (???)
http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=186415.0

It's not multi-day, but it is off-road and it is a race . . . (and suitable for beginners, apparently)

Good warm up for the Baja which is going to be amazing.

On Friday there'll be a short Prolgue which will determine your staring positions for:

Day One is 300 km plus of flowing tweespoor. Mostly slightly sandy, with here and there some deep sand. One loop takes you into the mountains with rock and loose stuff just to mix it up. 

Day Two is somewhat shorter so we can get all the competitors back to Port Nolloth by Sunday afternoon.

Come and join us!
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2016, 04:14:39 pm »
Would one be able to complete these events safely (no damage to bike or yourself) on a standard BMW F650GS Dakar?

Most of the funduro events seems to be smaller cc bikes like 450 max.
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2016, 08:08:48 pm »
Would one be able to complete these events safely (no damage to bike or yourself) on a standard BMW F650GS Dakar?

Most of the funduro events seems to be smaller cc bikes like 450 max.

You might be able to do it on that bike, but neither you nor your bike will enjoy it. I don't recommend it.
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2016, 08:46:05 pm »
There is no reason you can't do the WCOC event on the 27th Feb as there are others that have done similar events on 690's. However as Crossed-up has already stated, you won't enjoy it and will most likley sustain some damage to your bike. Also bare in mind the the WCOC events are the off roads which are far easier to ride, the CSMX Enduro's are MUCH harder on both you and your bike. All the events mentioned here require a MSA license (http://www.msaonline.co.za) so if you are planning to do the Baja you will need a license. While the Baja will no doubt include a fair bit of sand your F650GS should fair fine.
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2016, 10:05:41 am »
The WCOC 27 Feb is 70% fast however there are some sections that will be really difficult on anything bigger than 450 /525 although someone like Gideon Joubert would make it. This is our fastest race of the year with a 55-60km loop, however the famous riverbed, hamburger hill and FJ Cruiser kloof are all included.
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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2016, 10:15:01 am »
So by the sound of things there are no events out there for the more "tour/adventure" orientated bikes?

Plenty for the smaller cc bikes.  Wonder if I should get a smaller play bike! :)

But then I have to get a trailer, and kit and the list goes on!
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2016, 10:19:34 am »
Wonder if I should get a smaller play bike! :)

Yes you should  :thumleft:

But then I have to get a trailer, and kit and the list goes on!

Only once, then it is all sorted.

And also possible to get a road legal small play bike, but I prefer to trailer.
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2016, 10:22:22 am »
Wonder if I should get a smaller play bike! :)

Yes you should  :thumleft:

But then I have to get a trailer, and kit and the list goes on!

Only once, then it is all sorted.

And also possible to get a road legal small play bike, but I prefer to trailer.

Road legal like?

I was thinking 125cc 2 stroke or max 25cc 2 stroke.
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2016, 10:28:02 am »
Wonder if I should get a smaller play bike! :)

Yes you should  :thumleft:

But then I have to get a trailer, and kit and the list goes on!



Only once, then it is all sorted.

And also possible to get a road legal small play bike, but I prefer to trailer.

Road legal like?

I was thinking 125cc 2 stroke or max 25cc 2 stroke.

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2016, 10:28:09 am »
Wonder if I should get a smaller play bike! :)

Yes you should  :thumleft:

But then I have to get a trailer, and kit and the list goes on!

Only once, then it is all sorted.

And also possible to get a road legal small play bike, but I prefer to trailer.

Road legal like?

I was thinking 125cc 2 stroke or max 25cc 2 stroke.

Maybe a bit small  :peepwall:

A number of 250 and 450 4T's can be made road legal and road kit installed.

Having said that, I only made my 450 road legal since it is a requirement for the West Cost Baja (not the Baja Light).
I prefer to trailer my play bikes to where I want to play, not adding km's which are not part of the fun.
It does mean extra expense but it is a once off and the "trouble" of trailering is minimal (IMHO anyway).

Look at Rough Riders KDX200 in the For Sale section, he really looks after his bikes and that KDX for R15K is a great deal in my opinion.
Then add R6K to R8K for a secondhand trailer and you can get started.

The riding gear (Helmet, Boots, Body Armour etc.) you would need anyway.
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2016, 10:44:54 am »
So you are looking at R25k min to start doing this.    :-\

How do you explain that to the missus????

And what about buying an old Yamaha or Kawasaki 2T for sub R10k, one of those towbar bike "carriers" that keeps the front wheel locked to the towbar and the back wheel just runs on the tar?

Just running through all the options, all the experts can share their knowledge and steer me in the right direction before bankrupting myself.  ;D
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2016, 10:48:51 am »
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So you are looking at R25k min to start doing this.    :-\

Yes that would be a good budget.


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How do you explain that to the missus????

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And what about buying an old Yamaha or Kawasaki 2T for sub R10k, one of those towbar bike "carriers" that keeps the front wheel locked to the towbar and the back wheel just runs on the tar?

You will spend lots of time on bike maintenance instead of riding.
Do not like those brackets, you need to take the chain off when using those, but other guys might have good advice about them.

Am sure the experts will post advice as well  :thumleft:
 

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Re: Any rally style events for new comers to the sport?
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2016, 02:42:40 am »
So you are looking at R25k min to start doing this.    :-\

How do you explain that to the missus????

And what about buying an old Yamaha or Kawasaki 2T for sub R10k, one of those towbar bike "carriers" that keeps the front wheel locked to the towbar and the back wheel just runs on the tar?

Just running through all the options, all the experts can share their knowledge and steer me in the right direction before bankrupting myself.  ;D

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