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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #60 on: April 04, 2016, 08:46:06 am »
Ja, it was a brute of a bike!!!

They battled to contain the power, and it ate the rubber.

I think Anthony West was a rider?
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #61 on: April 04, 2016, 08:49:42 am »
Ja, it was a brute of a bike!!!

They battled to contain the power, and it ate the rubber.

I think Anthony West was a rider?

It was a beast.
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #62 on: April 04, 2016, 08:54:37 am »
Yip. McCoy  :ricky:
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #63 on: April 04, 2016, 06:00:53 pm »
Ja well no fine...quite boring 1st race at Aragon, except for the first few opening laps...BUT WHOA...the pace of the Ducati of Davies...unreal!

Lets see what happens now in race 2...prolly much of the same.

Bear...do you perhaps have a comparison somewhere of the LAPTIMES of WSS versus Moto2?...seeing that they are all 600cc bikes.

I would have to take a look.  The first 2 years or so of Moto2, they were slower than WSS.  Moto 2 all use Honda 600 engines. 
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #64 on: April 04, 2016, 06:12:24 pm »
Mmhhh...just as I thought.
Did we perhaps witnessed a kink in Rea's armour under the pressure from Sykes?
Mind boggling how Ducati performance bettered since one racing meeting ago.

Does anybody perhaps know whether Kawasaki ever tried Motogp before?....seeing that they are quite dominant in all other forms of bike racing currently?

Ducati made a massive jump in exhaust design.  Who notice the twin, instead of single exhaust this past weekend and more interesting, the fact that the two pipe openings are not the same size.  Have not figured out that yet, but it has something to do with scavenging the gasses from the engine.

No, we did not witness any kinks.   :ricky:

Kawasaki was not very successful in the top MotoGP class,  but did win a world championship or two in the smaller classes.  In fact, our own Kork Ballington won two world championships (250 and 350)  both in 1978 and 1979 on 2-stroke Kawas.    If memory serves Kawa only tried the top class for a few years with Ballington riding their KR500 2-stroke MotoGP bike.  Not much success though and around 1983 or so, withdrew from MotoGP racing.

During the Claimed Rules Team (CRT) era some of the bikes used a Kawasaki ZX10 engine.  This was around 2011 - 2015.  

Kawa is not as dominant as your perception created by WSBK Serfie.  What they have done is throw all their resources at the Rea / Sykes team and some at the WSS team as well.  Other manufacturers also race teams in Superstock 1000 and Superstoclk 600.  Kawa does precious little on the road racing circuit and do not dominate the World SBK Endurance racing.   

Do you remember when this was Rob?

It was a long time ago Serfie, if I recall, around 10 or11 years maybe?

I know they started on a base  ZX10 but eventually had a full blown GP bike....

I think your memory fails you Rob.  MotoGP was 500cc two stroke, 990cc four stroke, 800cc four stroke and has only been 1000cc four stroke for the past three or so years.  Not possible that they could have used a XZ10.
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #65 on: April 04, 2016, 07:27:29 pm »
Mmhhh...just as I thought.
Did we perhaps witnessed a kink in Rea's armour under the pressure from Sykes?
Mind boggling how Ducati performance bettered since one racing meeting ago.

Does anybody perhaps know whether Kawasaki ever tried Motogp before?....seeing that they are quite dominant in all other forms of bike racing currently?

Ducati made a massive jump in exhaust design.  Who notice the twin, instead of single exhaust this past weekend and more interesting, the fact that the two pipe openings are not the same size.  Have not figured out that yet, but it has something to do with scavenging the gasses from the engine.

No, we did not witness any kinks.   :ricky:

Kawasaki was not very successful in the top MotoGP class,  but did win a world championship or two in the smaller classes.  In fact, our own Kork Ballington won two world championships (250 and 350)  both in 1978 and 1979 on 2-stroke Kawas.    If memory serves Kawa only tried the top class for a few years with Ballington riding their KR500 2-stroke MotoGP bike.  Not much success though and around 1983 or so, withdrew from MotoGP racing.

During the Claimed Rules Team (CRT) era some of the bikes used a Kawasaki ZX10 engine.  This was around 2011 - 2015.  

Kawa is not as dominant as your perception created by WSBK Serfie.  What they have done is throw all their resources at the Rea / Sykes team and some at the WSS team as well.  Other manufacturers also race teams in Superstock 1000 and Superstoclk 600.  Kawa does precious little on the road racing circuit and do not dominate the World SBK Endurance racing.   

Do you remember when this was Rob?

It was a long time ago Serfie, if I recall, around 10 or11 years maybe?

I know they started on a base  ZX10 but eventually had a full blown GP bike....

I think your memory fails you Rob.  MotoGP was 500cc two stroke, 990cc four stroke, 800cc four stroke and has only been 1000cc four stroke for the past three or so years.  Not possible that they could have used a XZ10.


I was referring to the development thereof Bear... :thumleft:


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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #66 on: April 04, 2016, 08:25:15 pm »

I was referring to the development thereof Bear... :thumleft:


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Early 2000's to 2008/9 Kawasaki did indeed participate in the 4 stroke era. with a ZX-RR.  Basically the 990 and 800 era.  They didn't too badly, but did not impress much either.  Apparently the bike was a dog to ride.
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #67 on: April 05, 2016, 08:31:43 am »
Thanks for all the detail Bear...for the layman like me it surely looks like Kawa's are dominant...but that's probably what Kawasaki hopes to achieve...positive perceptions amongst the general public leading to more feet in the shops?...

Did notice the new twin pipes of the Ducati's, the commentators also made some mention of it...well, that bike of Davies surely had the legs on all the others...it will be interesting to see how this all pans out at the next race.
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #68 on: April 05, 2016, 09:51:05 am »
Thanks for all the detail Bear...for the layman like me it surely looks like Kawa's are dominant...but that's probably what Kawasaki hopes to achieve...positive perceptions amongst the general public leading to more feet in the shops?...

Did notice the new twin pipes of the Ducati's, the commentators also made some mention of it...well, that bike of Davies surely had the legs on all the others...it will be interesting to see how this all pans out at the next race.

Well, one Ducati had the legs.  It also changes from track to track.  Some tracks suits certain bikes better than others.
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #69 on: April 05, 2016, 10:10:02 am »
Hell...this sport is more complicated than Cricket...one never knows what to expect from who at the following circuit!...it all depends on a large number of variables!  ;D
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #70 on: April 05, 2016, 10:31:48 am »
Hell...this sport is more complicated than Cricket...one never knows what to expect from who at the following circuit!...it all depends on a large number of variables!  ;D

Indeed.  The only variable that does not exist in racing is the Indian Bookmakers!   :imaposer:

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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #71 on: April 15, 2016, 09:54:49 am »
Just a reminder guys...WSB's this weekend at Assen in the Netherlands...let's see if Jonathan Rey can be more competitive this weekend against his team mate...
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #72 on: April 15, 2016, 09:58:54 am »
Just a reminder guys...WSB's this weekend at Assen in the Netherlands...let's see if Jonathan Rey can be more competitive this weekend against his team mate...

This race used to be on a Saturday I thinks. How is it going to work with the new format?
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #73 on: April 15, 2016, 10:03:06 am »
Just a reminder guys...WSB's this weekend at Assen in the Netherlands...let's see if Jonathan Rey can be more competitive this weekend against his team mate...

This race used to be on a Saturday I thinks. How is it going to work with the new format?

No...with WSB both races (1) and (2) were held on Sunday, BUT this year it is race 1 on Saturday and race 2 on Sunday. They also use the super pole qualifying, which takes place on Saturday, for the start of race 2 on Sunday.
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #74 on: April 15, 2016, 10:04:21 am »
Just a reminder guys...WSB's this weekend at Assen in the Netherlands...let's see if Jonathan Rey can be more competitive this weekend against his team mate...

This race used to be on a Saturday I thinks. How is it going to work with the new format?
MotoGP is always on a Saturday, Dutch TT race!
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #75 on: April 15, 2016, 11:21:26 am »
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2016, 11:56:41 am »
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This will add the selected races to your specified Calendar.

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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2016, 01:33:13 pm »
Just a reminder guys...WSB's this weekend at Assen in the Netherlands...let's see if Jonathan Rey can be more competitive this weekend against his team mate...

This race used to be on a Saturday I thinks. How is it going to work with the new format?
MotoGP is always on a Saturday, Dutch TT race!

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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #78 on: April 16, 2016, 11:47:02 am »
Just a reminder guys...WSB's this weekend at Assen in the Netherlands...let's see if Jonathan Rey can be more competitive this weekend against his team mate...

This race used to be on a Saturday I thinks. How is it going to work with the new format?

MotoGP used to be on Saturday for traditional reasons.  That will change to Sunday from this year on. 
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Re: WSB World Super Bike 2016
« Reply #79 on: April 16, 2016, 11:54:46 am »
SUPERBIKES GRID:

1.  Sykes - Kawa
2.  Guintoli - Yamie
3.  Guigliano - Duc
4.  Ray - Kawa
5.  Van der Mark - Honda
6.  Davies - Duc

SUPERSPORT GRID:

1.  Stapleford - Triumph ?????
2.  Krummenacker - Kawa
3.  Cluzel - MV


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