1200 LC Trophy edition

[scalci]

Sorry to highjack the thread...

What differences are there on the tropthy vs STD and Adv?

[Kuifie]

think all is on the first page

[Stichhom]

Sorry to hijack the topic...

Gents & Ladies,

Question on a battery charger for a LC Trophy:
I do not ride that often. I would like to fit battery charger cables directly to the LC`s battery in order to keep it healthy. I have one of these battery conditioning chargers (Benton BX3), it has a range of programs and it cannot charge a completely discharged battery. Max amperage is less than 1 Ampere (think 0.8A max). The idea is to "condition" the battery when not in use say for a day or two when the bike has not being used for a week or more. In the manual it states clearly only a BMW approved float charger may be used. And it must be utilized by means of the dash mounted power supply. Any other charger will damage the on-board electronics and void the warrantee. Knowing BMW, they will probably charge a fortune for their own brand of battery float charger.

My question is, what have the fellow members installed on their Trophy`s? And I know the Trophy is ment to be ridden often as possible.

Thanks
Hijack off..

[AntVan]

I installed a small Hella socket in the tray under the seat for power out, that I also use to charge - I just have an adapter that plugs into this Hella socket. There is a thread about it somewhere.

[m0lt3n]

Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

[DavidMorrisXp]

Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

[Stichhom]

I installed a small Hella socket in the tray under the seat for power out, that I also use to charge - I just have an adapter that plugs into this Hella socket. There is a thread about it somewhere.

Thanks AntVan and mOltn3n.

[Omninorm]

Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

Would be interesting.
I bet it's about 5kg lighter,  not much more.

I don't see the suspension of the Trophy being different from the standard GS. However the Adventure and the upcoming Rally has more suspension travel. Imho wait for the Rally if you are considering the 1190. Apparently it will be here soonish.

[DavidMorrisXp]

Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

I filled up this morning and rode 34km to the office.

It was no fun putting it on the floor scale because the wheel base is slightly longer than the scale but now I know the answer, fully fuelled (less 34km @ 5,9l/100) OEM lower crash bars & OEM screen protector fitted = 248kg bike weight, more or less fully fuelled.

 

[m0lt3n]

Would be interesting.
I bet it's about 5kg lighter,  not much more.

I don't see the suspension of the Trophy being different from the standard GS. However the Adventure and the upcoming Rally has more suspension travel. Imho wait for the Rally if you are considering the 1190. Apparently it will be here soonish.

As much as I would like that. It will cost to much for me. Plus I do actually want to try out an 1190. I have always had a perception that they are unreliable, but recently see that that is not necessarily true plus my BMW's wasnt exactly super reliable anyhow.
And then also, I cant keep bashing KTM without first hand experience....

[Omninorm]

Would be interesting.
I bet it's about 5kg lighter,  not much more.

I don't see the suspension of the Trophy being different from the standard GS. However the Adventure and the upcoming Rally has more suspension travel. Imho wait for the Rally if you are considering the 1190. Apparently it will be here soonish.

As much as I would like that. It will cost to much for me. Plus I do actually want to try out an 1190. I have always had a perception that they are unreliable, but recently see that that is not necessarily true plus my BMW's wasnt exactly super reliable anyhow.
And then also, I cant keep bashing KTM without first hand experience....

I love the bikes KTM makes. On paper they are exactly the bikes of love to own. I've ridden a bunch of KTM's 390, lots of 690's a 990 and a 950.. Have a few mates who had/has them as well. I even owned a 2stroke XC-W, and was close to owning a 690 - haven't done the 1190 though. Make no mistake, they were all fantastic to ride. If I had loads of cash I'd have 5 or 6.
Imho the 1190R and the upcoming 1090 R will be absolutely awesome.......to ride.

[m0lt3n]

Omninorm

Yap, I am stalling a bit actually. Hoping the release of the 1090 and new 1290 will see a lot of second hand 1190's enetering the market at lower prices.
I get the insinuation though, lets hope I dont have a lot of issues, there isnt a KTM dealership near my town.

Sorry for off topic.

[Omninorm]

Omninorm

Yap, I am stalling a bit actually. Hoping the release of the 1090 and new 1290 will see a lot of second hand 1190's enetering the market at lower prices.
I get the insinuation though, lets hope I dont have a lot of issues, there isnt a KTM dealership near my town.

Sorry for off topic.

Look everything is relative. Life is short. You can always sell and buy again whatever you choose.
Just make sure you ride a LC before you decide if you haven't done so already.
The power difference between it and the Air cooled is really something else.
If I actually had a competent KTM dealer I might have considered one. You NOT having one might be a blessing in disguise.

[Omninorm]

Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

I filled up this morning and rode 34km to the office.

It was no fun putting it on the floor scale because the wheel base is slightly longer than the scale but now I know the answer, fully fuelled (less 34km @ 5,9l/100) OEM lower crash bars & OEM screen protector fitted = 248kg bike weight, more or less fully fuelled.

Hmmm interesting. Thanks for doing that and posting. So about 10kg's more than quoted. I suppose full tank as well as the extras.

[DavidMorrisXp]

Connecting directly to battery shouldnt be an issue, as the current isnt going through the bike electronics.
But I also have the Hella adapter for myself, it makes life easy.


Trophy riders: I am struggling to find info on the Trophy.
I am looking at buying an 1190, this while being somewhat of a BMW fanboy... so I would like to properly compare the 1190 and trophy. But struggle to find info on the Trophy.
What is the ground clearance of the trophy? (different from normal LC?)
and what is the suspension travel? Also 190F and 220R?
What is the weight? Wet fully fueled also 236kg?

Please help me out if you know it? I take it some of these values could and should be different from normal LC?

I am not able to answer the weight issue currently, but if nobody else can answer I will bring the bike into our warehouse and weigh it later in the week.

I filled up this morning and rode 34km to the office.

It was no fun putting it on the floor scale because the wheel base is slightly longer than the scale but now I know the answer, fully fuelled (less 34km @ 5,9l/100) OEM lower crash bars & OEM screen protector fitted = 248kg bike weight, more or less fully fuelled.

Hmmm interesting. Thanks for doing that and posting. So about 10kg's more than quoted. I suppose full tank as well as the extras.

It is interesting as the license disk says 238kg

[Omninorm]

Yup licence disc quotes the manufacturers kerb weight. That's usually ready to ride with 90% or more fuel.
I think things like windscreen and tools gets removed on all these bikes when they weigh. But yeah it's close seeing as you have crash bars on and fueled up and so on. I would like to see a regular LC on there.
The F800GSA weighs 239kg on licence disc. So probably a bit more as well.

[DavidMorrisXp]

Just heard the Trophy has gone up in price substantially - New retail R191k vs Full Spec R226k

[Omninorm]

Just heard the Trophy has gone up in price substantially - New retail R191k vs Full Spec R226k

Yeah the 2017 GSA is very close to R260K now out the door. Comes with everything though. Quickshifter etc.
Crazy prices now for a motorcycle!

[DavidMorrisXp]

Does anybody else find the Trophy a little dull with the grey white trim?

I searched the internet for ideas on wrapping the bike, maybe with the BMW red, white & blue but I couldn't find any inspiration or a design I liked.

Any ideas?

[DavidMorrisXp]

On a side note, BMW giving this spec LC a name "The Trophy" was a marketing win as we now seem to identify with "The Trophy."

Couldn't imagine if they had left it just as the base model it would invoke the same discussions or support