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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2016, 05:48:12 pm »
Some of us can only have one bike to do all the riding we want to. Hence having a compromised machine in all aspects.

For me the 1190 is close to the perfect all round bike, if you dont mind its unreliability.

No one claimed a 1190 will school a mx/enduro bike on rough dirt. I will say that on open gravel roads my 1190 would be much faster than my XR650R, and much more comfortable.
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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2016, 06:46:47 pm »
Look I'm not fighting and can't even afford one bike at the moment, and I agree fully on getting what best suits you. But stating the one is just as capable as the other is just a useless argument as they are so far apart and designed for totally different uses. Actually it should state neither is as capable as the other in their respective classes.

#bikepricesmustfall so me you and everyone can have one for every style of riding we do!

But I love to see all the videos come out the woodwork wit us trying to state our sides. :biggrin:

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2016, 07:04:31 pm »
Look I'm not fighting and can't even afford one bike at the moment, and I agree fully on getting what best suits you. But stating the one is just as capable as the other is just a useless argument as they are so far apart and designed for totally different uses. Actually it should state neither is as capable as the other in their respective classes.

#bikepricesmustfall so me you and everyone can have one for every style of riding we do!

But I love to see all the videos come out the woodwork wit us trying to state our sides. :biggrin:
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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2016, 03:44:19 pm »
I am not here to argue, just adding fuel to the fire

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2016, 03:54:26 pm »
No! I love it!  :imaposer:

Keep em coming!

It does seem like he got a bit tired at about 48 seconds.  ;)
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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2016, 04:01:16 pm »
But now.......compare those little jumps to this.....

At least this thread is not about who has the most brains! :imaposer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44-wE8gWvc

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #86 on: October 25, 2016, 07:00:58 am »
Not sure if anyone posted this yet but check out the 1190 ans new africa twin vs 450 mx bikes on an mx track

https://youtu.be/pkyXqW8lW7U

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #87 on: April 13, 2018, 09:16:24 pm »
Been three months but for me it's new.
Once you can crawl you want to walk.....one you master riding two wheels you want to try just one and the wheely was born.
Then you manage to do all this well on yr plastic and the next challenging thing is to play game B (Who remembers ) Try all this with a big bike!
If your ability stops at  balancing on yr own two feet or maybe do a 100 m endow (this comes after the wheely) then good for you. Don't  knock those who push it beyond  your ability.
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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #88 on: April 16, 2018, 08:24:00 pm »
I believe Gary Semicks is leading the 2018 world open MX championships on a KTM 1190.
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #89 on: April 16, 2018, 08:54:04 pm »
So funny that people think a 200kg adventure bike will get close to a dirt bike.
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #90 on: April 17, 2018, 03:49:28 pm »
So funny that people think a 200kg adventure bike will get close to a dirt bike.
Ha ha! I agree......

I still want to see someone jump this jump on a 1190/GS1200 etc, man you won't jump that on an XR650 or even a 690 or 701, or even a KTM3002T for that matter, as its not built for that(Ok MAYBE the 300, but you will bottom that thing out big time) but you can on a nearly stock 450MX bike.....

Well I know I won't be able to jump that ever, never would have been able to, even after spending 8/9 years on an MX bike almost every weekend.

I don't even think Garry Semics will attempt that, as he is old and has brains.

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #91 on: April 17, 2018, 09:33:00 pm »
Ag, Gary Semics will jump much further on his team Tarzan 1190, and he'll do a 360 whip at the same time.

Sorry, I am probably misleading a substantial group of Wilddoggers with these posts. :peepwall:
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #92 on: April 18, 2018, 01:28:02 am »
Ag, Gary Semics will jump much further on his team Tarzan 1190, and he'll do a 360 whip at the same time.

Sorry, I am probably misleading a substantial group of Wilddoggers with these posts. :peepwall:
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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #93 on: April 21, 2018, 05:12:03 am »
I run regular Kaokoland tours ( about 4 per year) and get dozens of inquiries from guys with big bikes asking about the terrain and whether their bikes will handle it. Nine out of ten get the wobbles when I send a video of what to expect.
It certainly is possible and we and many others have done it on the big boys but ramps up the risks, slows down the group and costs a fortune when it goes wrong.  Then take a trip like we're on at the moment when rivers have flooded and roads washed away and the big bikes become a huge liability.
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #94 on: April 21, 2018, 02:25:25 pm »
I run regular Kaokoland tours ( about 4 per year) and get dozens of inquiries from guys with big bikes asking about the terrain and whether their bikes will handle it. Nine out of ten get the wobbles when I send a video of what to expect.
It certainly is possible and we and many others have done it on the big boys but ramps up the risks, slows down the group and costs a fortune when it goes wrong.  Then take a trip like we're on at the moment when rivers have flooded and roads washed away and the big bikes become a huge liability.

You guys are seeing some heavy water in Nam at the moment, I believe? :eek7:
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #95 on: April 21, 2018, 03:38:02 pm »
What a silly discussion.  :patch:
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #96 on: April 24, 2018, 06:49:20 pm »
In a world more and more dominated by gender sensitivity, marginalized inclusion, political correctness, being careful of offending and a persuasive policing of anything out of the ordinary or accepted I am amazed that the 2SD's, Heddleys of the world etc. are criticizing people who are willing to be non conformists.

The very people who live and stand for non conformity and marching to their own drums are voicing against the very concept they espouse?

2SD is a truth seeker and non-populist, he believes in his truths and stands by them, ATGATT or not. Hedly wheelies his own boat down his own avenue even if it costs him his arse whilst doing it.

And yet here you two (and others) are not applauding but being sheeple to a majority concept. You're finding overly logical reasons why this should NOT be done.

Maybe, just maybe this oke is doing what you stand for. But it wasn't you doing it. I'd bet big bucks you'd secretly love the opportunity to do if you had the talent or the sponsorship.

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #97 on: April 24, 2018, 06:52:59 pm »






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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #98 on: April 24, 2018, 08:01:28 pm »
In a world more and more dominated by gender sensitivity, marginalized inclusion, political correctness, being careful of offending and a persuasive policing of anything out of the ordinary or accepted I am amazed that the 2SD's, Heddleys of the world etc. are criticizing people who are willing to be non conformists.

The very people who live and stand for non conformity and marching to their own drums are voicing against the very concept they espouse?

2SD is a truth seeker and non-populist, he believes in his truths and stands by them, ATGATT or not. Hedly wheelies his own boat down his own avenue even if it costs him his arse whilst doing it.

And yet here you two (and others) are not applauding but being sheeple to a majority concept. You're finding overly logical reasons why this should NOT be done.

Maybe, just maybe this oke is doing what you stand for. But it wasn't you doing it. I'd bet big bucks you'd secretly love the opportunity to do if you had the talent or the sponsorship.

Turn your man badges in.




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Omninorm, far from begrudging the big-bike rider his fun in the sun, I am actually responding to the thread title.

Which, by the way asks the question, or even statement; "So big bikes are as capable as plastics?"

It is wonderful to see Birch do what he does on his 1190 through the woods, but believe me, the man is a tortoise compared to when on his 300.

The thread heading is actually so silly, it is the equivalent of asking; "Can my Triumph 2300cc triple keep up to a V-twin 250 2stroke on Killarney?"

And, just because Russel Wood will be relatively quick around Killarney on the big triple, it will be in shocking relativity.
 

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Re: So big bikes are as capable as plastics..?
« Reply #99 on: April 25, 2018, 03:46:32 pm »
Sorry Omninorm,

But those videos, I would have run through with my 2007 KX250 in a 1/4 of the time with not even breaking a sweat. And I can state I was a kak MX rider.

Wonder when Tony is going for a 1190 or XXXX?

I won't ever state, that a 250 2T MX bike is as capable as a Trails bike, at trails, because it's not and will never be, as they were designed for totally different disciplines.



A stock standard 1000cc sports bike is just as "capable" as a MotoGP bike at going around the track, but it will NEVER do the same lap times.

Why is it so hard to accept?



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