You have R160 000. A new AT(basic) or a 2nd hand 1190R?????

[2StrokeDan]

I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

The time, the time

Wealth does not mean money only, it's money and time.

[Bensien]

A second hand 990 and a garage full of beer

[Buff]

Husky 701 and two garages full of beer 

[Hinksding]

Help me out here. A 1190R sold for around R150k in 2013.  If you get R130k now for a well looked after bike - I think it is fair wrt retaining value?

Also wonder how people can call the AT reliable??

Makes me also wonder.  Just because the old 1150 did 100000 kms without a blink doesn't make the new 1200LC theee most reliable DS bike ever!

[Kaboef]

A second hand 990 and a garage full of beer

Finally some sense.

[ETS]

Husky 701 and two garages full of beer 

Now thats a plan

[ETS]

I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

The time, the time

Wealth does not mean money only, it's money and time.

That is so very very true

[Ceaser]

BMW's services are in most cases the same price as KTM's , so is owning a KTM really more expensive?

No one likes a dead standard bike, so your 160 is quickly going to become 180 or 190, so I would much rather buy a 1or2 year old bike and get all the farkles with it. Saves you loads of money

1190R is the answer

[BlomC]

Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

[Sputnik080]

Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

Ek kon sweer ek het pas uit die Kaap uit gesien hoe ETS hardloop lughawe toe? 

[ETS]

Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

Ek kon sweer ek het pas uit die Kaap uit gesien hoe ETS hardloop lughawe toe? 

Nee ek bevind my tans op Prieska Internasionaal waar die vlugte gestack is agv n duisendpoot wat op km 8 oor die aanloopbaan stap

[Sputnik080]

Just walked out of Roost KTM in Springs...there is sleeping...an 1190R with 1060km on for R164k...not a bad deal if they are new R200k.

Ek kon sweer ek het pas uit die Kaap uit gesien hoe ETS hardloop lughawe toe? 

Nee ek bevind my tans op Prieska Internasionaal waar die vlugte gestack is agv n duisendpoot wat op km 8 oor die aanloopbaan stap

Ag, ek is seker KTM Springs sal vir jou wag vir daai ekstra uur of wat.
Wie weet, dalk kry jy nog 'n loop dop voor jy vertrek................

[XRRX]

If you park your bike and walk away and you don't look back.....then you own a Honda 

But I always look back ... 

[LuckyStriker]

 

[Bikerboer1973]

I'm not a big fan of the 1190 so I'd choose the AT
But if I already had a bike AND 160K then I'd buy neither and rather blow the money on a trans-Africa trip

Not the worst advice at all, I was gonna sell my Transalp 700 and buy the AT for sure, but selling a bike in this market is not the easiest thing in the world especially with winter approaching, so ive been thinking of a South America trip with the money instead and just keep the transalp.

Agreed, went for a test ride on the new AT and man what a lovely bike, smooth as silk and great all rounder. BUT, I will not trade my Vardero or Transalp for one, it's just not worth it unless money is not a problem then you should have bought it already  .

[lecap]

A second hand 990 and a garage full of beer

Finally some sense.

My first thought was a nice late model low mileage DR650SE (I'd take a new one if it was possible) and an epic three month round trip Nam - Vic Falls - Malawi - Dar - Moz.

The situation was similar when we got married. Two DR's (and some change) just seemed to make so much more sense than one R1150GS. And they still do today.


I never was a fan of the big DS bikers with maybe the one and only exception of the Tiger 900 in the days just after I came to SA and whilst the memories of my European road biking days were still fresh. Hence no vote from my side in this poll.


In general I'd go for the Honda simply because it is new. Alternatively save until I can afford the KTM new.