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Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« on: June 19, 2016, 03:28:44 pm »
No.5 Toyota leading Le Mans after 23H57min to end up not being classified, how cruel is that  ???

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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2016, 03:33:06 pm »
It is the car that lasts the full 24 hours that wins. :sip:
 

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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2016, 03:34:28 pm »
It is the car that lasts the full 24 hours that wins. :sip:

The car that is leading after 24 hours wins, and then they have to do one cool down lap after crossing the finishing line.

The Toyota suddenly lost power with 5mins to go and had to stop on the last lap. They managed to complete the last lap still in second place and received the flag but could not do the cool down lap and were not classified as a result.
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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2016, 04:04:22 pm »
It is the car that lasts the full 24 hours that wins. :sip:

The car that is leading after 24 hours wins, and then they have to do one cool down lap after crossing the finishing line.

The Toyota suddenly lost power with 5mins to go and had to stop on the last lap. They managed to complete the last lap still in second place and received the flag but could not do the cool down lap and were not classified as a result.

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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2016, 04:29:25 pm »
It is the car that lasts the full 24 hours that wins. :sip:

The car that is leading after 24 hours wins, and then they have to do one cool down lap after crossing the finishing line.

The Toyota suddenly lost power with 5mins to go and had to stop on the last lap. They managed to complete the last lap still in second place and received the flag but could not do the cool down lap and were not classified as a result.
Exactly my point... they could not complete the task.
 

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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2016, 04:49:40 pm »
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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2016, 05:37:56 pm »
It is the car that lasts the full 24 hours that wins. :sip:

The car that is leading after 24 hours wins, and then they have to do one cool down lap after crossing the finishing line.

The Toyota suddenly lost power with 5mins to go and had to stop on the last lap. They managed to complete the last lap still in second place and received the flag but could not do the cool down lap and were not classified as a result.
Exactly my point... they could not complete the task.

Sorry I miss-read your point; I thought you were asking a question  :-[
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Re: Poor Toyota
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2016, 06:19:58 pm »
It is the car that lasts the full 24 hours that wins. :sip:

The car that is leading after 24 hours wins, and then they have to do one cool down lap after crossing the finishing line.

The Toyota suddenly lost power with 5mins to go and had to stop on the last lap. They managed to complete the last lap still in second place and received the flag but could not do the cool down lap and were not classified as a result.
Exactly my point... they could not complete the task.

Sorry I miss-read your point; I thought you were asking a question  :-[

I think he completely missed your original point anyway.
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2016, 08:09:48 am »
Is there any news or report of what went wrong?  My thought at the time was fuel, maybe the pit crew miscalculated???? ???
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2016, 08:18:25 am »
Well he was at full throttle, and the car wouldn't go over 200kph

He did a reset, and the car coasted around and then shut down entirely.

That must be electronics?

The poor ouens in the Toyota pits, nobody spoke or reacted.

It was rough to see.

But that's racing, eh?

It was equally hilarious to see the Porsche reactions.

They had 18th win Tshirts made for in case. They were all packed away, and they had to bust it out again, LOL!!!!
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2016, 10:25:59 am »
Well he was at full throttle, and the car wouldn't go over 200kph

He did a reset, and the car coasted around and then shut down entirely.

That must be electronics?

The poor ouens in the Toyota pits, nobody spoke or reacted.

It was rough to see.

But that's racing, eh?

It was equally hilarious to see the Porsche reactions.

They had 18th win Tshirts made for in case. They were all packed away, and they had to bust it out again, LOL!!!!

I felt really sorry for the Toyota crew chief, he was in tears.
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2016, 10:31:09 am »
Does anybody know exactly how these hybrid cars work?
Does the engine drive a generator which then drives individual propulsion motors fitted to the wheels, or does the engine drive the wheels in the conventional way through a gearbox with some extra help from an electric motor? 
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2016, 10:38:05 am »
Does anybody know exactly how these hybrid cars work?
Does the engine drive a generator which then drives individual propulsion motors fitted to the wheels, or does the engine drive the wheels in the conventional way through a gearbox with some extra help from an electric motor? 
It's a energy recovery system like F1 that works off the brakes and drive train.
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2016, 10:46:18 am »
Does anybody know exactly how these hybrid cars work?
Does the engine drive a generator which then drives individual propulsion motors fitted to the wheels, or does the engine drive the wheels in the conventional way through a gearbox with some extra help from an electric motor?  

All the teams have different solutions to work within the regulations
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/motorsport/nissan%E2%80%99s-1250bhp-le-mans-racer-explained
http://jalopnik.com/how-porsches-stunningly-complex-hybrid-le-mans-race-car-1589245142

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1101173_2016-r18-lmp1-is-audis-most-powerful-and-efficient-racer-ever
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2016, 10:56:26 am »
That was sad luck indeed, really felt for those okes.
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2016, 11:02:25 am »
This was one of the best Le Mans races I've watched! As usual, I spent my whole Le Mans weekend in front of the tv and being father's day, I even got breakfast "in bed".

All through the night the Porsche and Toyota teams swapped the lead and the 1st 3 cars were within 20 secs of each other in LMP1 most of the time. The end was just devastating. Not just for Toyota, even the commentators couldn't believe it.

The GTE race was great as well with Ford and Ferrari fighting it out for most of the 24 hours, but the Fords got through in the end.

A really good race, with more than enough twists and turns in the story to make for a very good movie script!
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2016, 11:57:26 am »
If the Toyota had stopped just short of the finish line instead of just past it they would have at least come second.
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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2016, 12:52:33 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9Kj1h2xS04

Heartbreaking stuff indeed..... I felt for those poor Toyota crew members!
 

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Re: Cruel luck for Toyota at Le Mans
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2016, 02:25:57 pm »
Here's the provisional results. #5 not even classified because it couldn't complete the cool down lap...

http://www.lemans.org/explorer/pdf/courses/2016/24-heures-du-mans/classification/race/24-heures-du-mans-2016-classification-after-24h.pdf
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