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KTM EXC 300
« on: July 10, 2016, 09:37:22 am »
I am looking for a bike I can use in the sand dunes, goofing around in the veld and do the odd backyard gravel road trippie (max250km). Still have to get around swambo but I am working on it. :lol8:

Will of course buy a second third hand and most of those bikes in my budget range have lots of hours on. For that reason I will rather go for a 2 smoke.

There are a few 200, 250, 300 and 450's on gumtree and OLX. Never owned one so I would love to have some feedback.

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2016, 09:55:37 am »
The KTM 300's are legendary , if you buy a mechanically good example you won't go wrong .
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2016, 10:14:31 am »
2-smokes don't like sustained high revs doing long distance stuff. For that reason I would really suggest good big 4 stroke for what you are describing, something like KTM 525 would probably do very well or a Yamaha WR 450. I have a 300 and yes they are very nice and have a legendary status for a reason but I think they are more well suited for tech riding. My first plastic was a 530 and a learned a lot with that bike mechanically speaking but no matter what bike you get in this category there is quite a bit more maintenance.
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2016, 10:35:11 am »
2-smokes don't like sustained high revs doing long distance stuff. For that reason I would really suggest good big 4 stroke for what you are describing, something like KTM 525 would probably do very well or a Yamaha WR 450. I have a 300 and yes they are very nice and have a legendary status for a reason but I think they are more well suited for tech riding. My first plastic was a 530 and a learned a lot with that bike mechanically speaking but no matter what bike you get in this category there is quite a bit more maintenance.

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Ok so I will just remove the 280km from my brainfart. :lol8:

The dunes here are not that like those of namibia. They are fairly technical.  :thumleft:
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2016, 07:47:33 pm »
What does a technical dune look like? :eek7:
 

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2016, 07:57:29 pm »
Yamaha WR 450 is what you are describing  :thumleft:
 
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2016, 08:52:25 pm »
Lots of KTM 300s did the Desert 1000 2 weeks ago.  280km is nothing.  Carrying fuel for it is another matter altogether.
 

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2016, 09:51:06 pm »
Lots of KTM 300s did the Desert 1000 2 weeks ago.  280km is nothing.  Carrying fuel for it is another matter altogether.

Even a 2stroke mugu like myself will say that the pre-mix can be messy and a schlep. But I also look at guys posting how a 2stroke will seize if just shown a bit of straight,
then you see them doing these type of events. ::)
 

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2016, 07:34:01 am »
Lots of KTM 300s did the Desert 1000 2 weeks ago.  280km is nothing.  Carrying fuel for it is another matter altogether.

Even a 2stroke mugu like myself will say that the pre-mix can be messy and a schlep. But I also look at guys posting how a 2stroke will seize if just shown a bit of straight,
then you see them doing these type of events. ::)

The new 2 strokes are nothing like the old air cooled 2 strokes from the 80's. Definitely not as suited to long distance riding/racing as a 4 stroke, but also not as bad as 4 stroke fans make them out to be. As a play bike for the odd dune and mountain ride or as an extreme enduro bike, I'd take a 300 anytime. There is a reason why the 300's sell so well.
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2016, 08:03:48 am »
2-smokes don't like sustained high revs doing long distance stuff. For that reason I would really suggest good big 4 stroke for what you are describing, something like KTM 525 would probably do very well or a Yamaha WR 450. I have a 300 and yes they are very nice and have a legendary status for a reason but I think they are more well suited for tech riding. My first plastic was a 530 and a learned a lot with that bike mechanically speaking but no matter what bike you get in this category there is quite a bit more maintenance.

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Ok so I will just remove the 280km from my brainfart. :lol8:

The dunes here are not that like those of namibia. They are fairly technical.  :thumleft:


Talking about Waterford near Groblershoop???Awesome place!!! :thumleft:
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2016, 08:31:25 am »
Lots of KTM 300s did the Desert 1000 2 weeks ago.  280km is nothing.  Carrying fuel for it is another matter altogether.

Even a 2stroke mugu like myself will say that the pre-mix can be messy and a schlep. But I also look at guys posting how a 2stroke will seize if just shown a bit of straight,
then you see them doing these type of events. ::)

The new 2 strokes are nothing like the old air cooled 2 strokes from the 80's. Definitely not as suited to long distance riding/racing as a 4 stroke, but also not as bad as 4 stroke fans make them out to be. As a play bike for the odd dune and mountain ride or as an extreme enduro bike, I'd take a 300 anytime. There is a reason why the 300's sell so well.
Also thought the 300's have legend status and good "low hours" examples are hard to find at a reasonable price until I started looking for a 200 which seem near impossible :deal:
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2016, 08:52:09 am »
So whats it going to be Ama?
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2016, 01:16:23 pm »
Lots of KTM 300s did the Desert 1000 2 weeks ago.  280km is nothing.  Carrying fuel for it is another matter altogether.

Even a 2stroke mugu like myself will say that the pre-mix can be messy and a schlep. But I also look at guys posting how a 2stroke will seize if just shown a bit of straight,
then you see them doing these type of events. ::)

We had a couple of 10km kap lyne that could be ran flat taps.  I held mine at exactly 131 kph, as that's what it can do  ;D.  Whenever there is a place where I would want to tap off, like a rocky drift or a depression, I would just push the kill switch to slow it down and cool down the cylinder.  Not sure if it helps, but it surely highlights my age.  Once had a IT200 that liked to seize.  Mainly because I likes crisp jetting...
 

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2016, 05:10:32 pm »
2-smokes don't like sustained high revs doing long distance stuff. For that reason I would really suggest good big 4 stroke for what you are describing, something like KTM 525 would probably do very well or a Yamaha WR 450. I have a 300 and yes they are very nice and have a legendary status for a reason but I think they are more well suited for tech riding. My first plastic was a 530 and a learned a lot with that bike mechanically speaking but no matter what bike you get in this category there is quite a bit more maintenance.

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Ok so I will just remove the 280km from my brainfart. :lol8:

The dunes here are not that like those of namibia. They are fairly technical.  :thumleft:


Talking about Waterford near Groblershoop???Awesome place!!! :thumleft:

Yes correct. Bring your whatever you have. :biggrin:
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #14 on: July 11, 2016, 05:14:15 pm »
So whats it going to be Ama?

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2016, 06:14:25 pm »
Dunno about the 300 but I had the 250 EXC and that thing was bulletproof. I didnt ride the kak out of it though, just lekker technical or sand and dunes etc didnt give issues. I re did the front forks and brake discs. Eventually sold it to Dwerg thats till riding it as is as far as i know.

They will go forever if treated well. I mixed the 2stroke 40-1 instead of 50-1.

The dirtbike I miss the most though is my Yamaha YZ250F...if you can get a WR250F or a YZ250F with a WR gearbox I reckon that will also be very suited to what you want to do depending on your weight etc. I found my old YZ a little pap in the sand but looking back, I could ride that bike more close to it's ability and mine than i did the 250 2T's or 450's. So imho it was more fun. But I only realize that now after I've sold all my dirtbikes :(




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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2016, 10:52:44 pm »
I would say if you are going to do dunes on a 4t, rather go for the 450 than the 250 because it has a lot of grunt. I recon you might hurt a little 250 unless you are a lightweight like Omninorm suggests.

While I am toying with the idea of a 2t myself I suspect a 4t might perform better in a dune situation; but these are the words of someone who is has rally blinkers on. My idea of a perfect environment for a 2t is in a rocky, step like, mountainous boulder field. In other words stuff the roof or extreme enduros.

Dunes, even small dunes (which I imagine is what you mean by technical dunes) can be managed if you ride smoothly, and a 4t is all about smooth. I love engine braking through a dune crest for example.
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 07:27:26 am »
Dunno about the 300 but I had the 250 EXC and that thing was bulletproof. I didnt ride the kak out of it though, just lekker technical or sand and dunes etc didnt give issues. I re did the front forks and brake discs. Eventually sold it to Dwerg thats till riding it as is as far as i know.

Yip it's done a few races and still going well. I have to rev the piss out of it to stay with the bigger modern 4t bikes though. For dunes I'd much rather have a 450/500 for sure. For slower tech riding, the 2t for me every time
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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 08:09:48 am »
2-smokes don't like sustained high revs doing long distance stuff. For that reason I would really suggest good big 4 stroke for what you are describing, something like KTM 525 would probably do very well or a Yamaha WR 450. I have a 300 and yes they are very nice and have a legendary status for a reason but I think they are more well suited for tech riding. My first plastic was a 530 and a learned a lot with that bike mechanically speaking but no matter what bike you get in this category there is quite a bit more maintenance.

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Ok so I will just remove the 280km from my brainfart. :lol8:

The dunes here are not that like those of namibia. They are fairly technical.  :thumleft:


Talking about Waterford near Groblershoop???Awesome place!!! :thumleft:

Yes correct. Bring your whatever you have. :biggrin:

On my 300 there are a few i cannot get up...... 450 is the bike there :thumleft:
If i had to explain you would not understand anyway......
 

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Re: KTM EXC 300
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 01:44:32 pm »
My 300 2t was a monster........ had some work done to it though! The only 2 stroke to buy imo.... any 250 just feels gutless after riding a 300.... :thumleft:
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