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Offline lecap

Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #60 on: July 13, 2016, 09:23:17 am »
I have two DR650SE.
The first one has done 140,000km. Engine never opened. On a 3,500km trip last October I had to top up half a litre of oil.
The second one needed a main bearing replaced after 40,000km.

My other 5 DR650SE I owned (mostly sold with a lot of kilometres) all ran without any issues.
Ganjora's DR650SE detonated its engine from a disassembling gear.

Hundreds of DR's out there run without ever giving trouble.
A few fail. Some catastrophically.

:-\

What now ??? Is Suzuki shite or not ???

I agree with maintenance being a major issue.

I simply do not ride unreliable bike  :thumleft:.











I sell them :ricky:

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #61 on: July 13, 2016, 09:28:49 am »
Enige brand bike sal kak as jy hom deur jou gat trek.

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #62 on: July 13, 2016, 09:39:04 am »
There is a similarety between KTM and Toyota owners. Any problems they have are swept under the carpet as isolated.

KTM nice bike! Had 4 al with problems galore! Nice Maybe  but definiatly not a good bike!!

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #63 on: July 13, 2016, 10:04:42 am »
Also owned quite a lot of different brands, then went on to DS with a Dakar which were 2month old at 4000km (which were aparently bulletproof) Gave me a lot of shit up to 48 000km, bought a 800BMW new, gave me shit from the first recall till the last and ate 8 sets of wheelbearings up to 38 000km before broken in half (not really, but like to call it that) Bought a 990 adventure then with 1000km on the clock, sitting at 40 000km now and NEVER gave me shit (a fuelfilter on a Lesotho trip needed cleaning and replace afterwards) service it every 5000km, done Amageza with it, touring Lesotho about 3 times in k@k 2 spoor and tracks, two-up trips through Nam almost everywhere, the best bike I ever owned.. I replaced the wheelbearing now as precaution, just a problem with rear tyres...
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #64 on: July 13, 2016, 10:07:50 am »

or do you always just give stupid opinions without reason?


You started with the stupid opinions.

Performance cars, bikes, anything can be reliable and are too, even though the components are more stressed than the non-performance ones.

Using performance as an excuse for something being unreliable is still a bullshit excuse.

Edit: Shorter lifespan due to higher performance does not equal unreliability - does not take a degree to understand that.
I dont know man. I gave reasons for my reasoning/opinion. You dont other than stating I am wrong.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #65 on: July 13, 2016, 10:24:06 am »

Its the same with ranger vs hilux.


I agree with you...I think when the 950 ktm Adventure was launched in 2003 it had more power than the new 2016 honda africa twin ....and that is just amazing. I never by the 1st new model in a motorcycle range because there are always some problems that need to be fixed! That is 13 years man!!!
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #66 on: July 13, 2016, 11:05:51 am »
Also owned quite a lot of different brands, then went on to DS with a Dakar which were 2month old at 4000km (which were aparently bulletproof) Gave me a lot of shit up to 48 000km, bought a 800BMW new, gave me shit from the first recall till the last and ate 8 sets of wheelbearings up to 38 000km before broken in half (not really, but like to call it that) Bought a 990 adventure then with 1000km on the clock, sitting at 40 000km now and NEVER gave me shit (a fuelfilter on a Lesotho trip needed cleaning and replace afterwards) service it every 5000km, done Amageza with it, touring Lesotho about 3 times in k@k 2 spoor and tracks, two-up trips through Nam almost everywhere, the best bike I ever owned.. I replaced the wheelbearing now as precaution, just a problem with rear tyres...

I take it back. You highlighted two problems I have with my KTM more than the other bikes.

1. It gives me a smile on my face that can not be surgically removed. (Man!!! some of the other brand riders are just sour. Riding is sposed to be fun. Live!!!!)

2. Back Tyres!!!! I never get more than 3500km out of them.

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #67 on: July 13, 2016, 11:15:58 am »
I've been riding for 16 years.  Small bikes, big bikes old and new.  Off roads and road bikes.  I've never ever had a single problem with any of my bikes.  I bought a new 300 XCW and a new 690 Enduro.  Also not one single problem with them.  I bought my 990 Adventure R with 34 000 km on the clock and I've done 10 400 km in 3 months.  Not a single problem.  I'm hoping my luck holds...

Maybe some people just abuse their bikes or they buy bad second hand bikes.  My father told me when I was a laaitjie, If you look after your vehicle your vehicle will look after you.  Best advice I ever got.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #68 on: July 13, 2016, 11:19:39 am »
950 has done 87,000km and the 620 (always flat taps) at 36,000km.
No kak whatsoever ‘cos Runner is my friend.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #69 on: July 13, 2016, 11:24:47 am »
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bike reliability issues.....   what does that mean?




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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #70 on: July 13, 2016, 11:41:07 am »
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bike reliability issues.....   what does that mean?




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Offline JohnB

Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #71 on: July 13, 2016, 11:53:17 am »
Just take a spare fuel pump wherever you go and you will be sorted ;) :thumleft:

True story. Only time I was left stranded..well kinda. I managed to limp home. Other than some known issues and some preventative maintenance, its a pretty cool scoot to own.

I feel the same way about Kawa. Killed a couple of them without any effort. Luck of the draw I guess
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2016, 12:01:26 pm »
Almost all motorcyclists are irrationally opinionated. I know I am, although the only brand that I am prone to put down, my opinion is more related to the type of machine, which is definitely not my cuppa tea, than their ability to make motorcycles.
I find for example the general condemnation of Chinese machines to be irrational given my own ownership of a Chinese bike for which I can find nothing but praise, and the similar experience of several friends. That's bearing in mind of course their price, and while realistically of course they may not be of quite the same quality as the 'mainstream' manufacturers their value definitely exceeds the cheap price in my opinion.
More irrational opinion:- I read on the forum a while back some advice given to someone who was asking about buying a Suzuki DR650. He was advised to shun it because they have an 'exploding' engine! An opinion no doubt based upon a single observation of a machine that may well have been abused or poorly maintained.
Contrast that with the testimonial of LeCap and a myriad of other owners.
For my sins I own a BMW 1150 GS (Oh, shudder!) One of my good riding buddies, otherwise a very nice and generally knowledgeable chap, just cannot resist any opportunity to decry the unreliability of all BMW's. The large final drive bearing for example 'always' fails within 20,000km. This remark was prompted when another friend had to replace his at around  100,000, and the fact that mine shows no sign of a problem at 114,000, plus numerous others that can boast of much higher figures, these are all 'exceptions'. In general they all pack up at around 20k. because someone who does a lot of them told him so.
Same when my fuel pump recently gave notice. I say gave notice because it didn't just pack up and leave me stranded, but gave audible advance warning. Once again my 13 year old unit had to be the exception, because he 'knows' that they all give out at the same ubiquitous 20,000.
As to KTM as a brand I can't comment from experience, but it stands to reason that when a manufacturer boasts that their engine is the lightest and most compact in it's class whilst delivering the highest power in it's class, then more maintenance and shorter component life is probably to be expected, but this is not the same thing as unreliability.
Everyone's experience will be different. for every horror story there will be many contrasting good reports, and I feel that all opinions, even qualified knowledgeable ones need to be carefully considered and seasoned with the proverbial pinch.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2016, 12:18:52 pm »
I have had a lot of bikes over the 40 years. Never ever had a breakdown ever.
I suspect lack of hands on maintenance by the owners has got a lot to do how reliable a bike is.

Agree with this, no one manufacturer can afford to make a bad product anymore or they are done for. Do one get duds form time to time, yes one do, even Toyota does but on average you are more likely to get a good product form them. That being said it seems one is more likely to get a poor product from KTM, but again I think hands on maintenance is the key to any mechanical things longevity. 
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2016, 12:22:40 pm »
I gave up my last ride to trailer a buddy home......... YES you guessed it......... 990  ;D ;)
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #75 on: July 13, 2016, 12:23:30 pm »
More irrational opinion:- I read on the forum a while back some advice given to someone who was asking about buying a Suzuki DR650. He was advised to shun it because they have an 'exploding' engine! An opinion no doubt based upon a single observation of a machine that may well have been abused or poorly maintained.
Contrast that with the testimonial of LeCap and a myriad of other owners.

that was me.
the bike was perfectly looked after and maintained as all my bike are.
there's also a number of other DR650's that have had exactly the same issue.
have a look on advrider,  and see the number of fails.
KLR's have doohickey issues,   Suzuki have gear issues,  both can cause an exploding motor.
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #76 on: July 13, 2016, 12:26:16 pm »
i did the search for you  ;)
http://advrider.com/index.php?threads/dr650-3rd-gear-blowups.424132/
70 odd pages about the problem...
 

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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #77 on: July 18, 2016, 11:55:34 am »
One of our riding buddies has sold his 690 and bought an XR650L for abovementioned reasons. May be a bit of a stretch to touch terra firma for him on his left or his right leg at any given time on the new bike but with an XRL you only gotta worry about the CDI breaking once.

And exhaust valves coming loose
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #78 on: July 18, 2016, 12:10:57 pm »
My 1190 was the most unreliable vehicle I have ever used, and I spent a few years driving landfailure defenders.

I will buy another one, it was also the most fun vehicle I ever used. Much more fun than my modified Subaru.
I have yet to find a great performing vehicle of any kind that is very reliable.
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Re: KTM: Ready to let you down…..
« Reply #79 on: July 18, 2016, 12:12:50 pm »
More irrational opinion:- I read on the forum a while back some advice given to someone who was asking about buying a Suzuki DR650. He was advised to shun it because they have an 'exploding' engine! An opinion no doubt based upon a single observation of a machine that may well have been abused or poorly maintained.
Contrast that with the testimonial of LeCap and a myriad of other owners.

that was me.
the bike was perfectly looked after and maintained as all my bike are.
there's also a number of other DR650's that have had exactly the same issue.
have a look on advrider,  and see the number of fails.
KLR's have doohickey issues,   Suzuki have gear issues,  both can cause an exploding motor.

You forgot about the DR650 NSU screws that fall out also grenading the motor.
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