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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2016, 10:22:36 am »
There's the Plug, good write up, well enjoyed it. As with most things it takes a bit of time to get used to new things. I happened to take a mates Triumph 800 for a spin yesterday and loved it but missed the grunt of my LC GSA.

I remember a few years ago trying kamasutra position 865b and having real difficulties in the beginning, but with practice, I mastered it.... :3some:
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2016, 12:31:24 pm »
Nice write up on the R1200GS LC.

Just one suggestion, if you find the LC a little too responsive, put it in RAIN mode.

If my 20 year old son borrowed my LC, he was told to ride it in RAIN mode.  Now he is used to it (I hope) he can ride in ROAD mode.  I rarely use DYNA mode as it is fun but ROAD mode is fine for me.

RAIN mode is the safest and least responsive mode
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2016, 12:44:32 pm »
As with everything else, you get used to the quick throttle response .... sadly.   



And yes, the blipping on low RPM downshifts are there to avoid lean mixture stalls.


I cannot agree with this.  This software update was done on my bike at 20 000km.  Up to that point I had no suffered any lean mixture stalls.  

I cannot vouch for this as I was told this by the BMW Service Manager and we know that dealer staff are sometimes economical with the truth.  

Since the day I got my bike, I grumbled about the rough downshifts and rather unsmooth upshifts.  In fact, the gearbox spoiled the bike.  I complained at 1000km service.  They told me to just run it for awhile, it will get better.  At 10 000km I told them it is not better.  Just go till 20 000km they said, it will get better.  At 20 000km I told them to either fix it, replace it.  No more waiting.  The then told me they would do the software upgrade that retards timing and blips the throttle on shifting.  If it didn't help, I had to come back.  It made a huge difference and my gearbox is now acceptable.  Not great, but acceptable.  So, I am not at all sure that the throttle blipping is for lean running conditions.  Of course, it could be.  As I said, I can only go on what I was told, in this case.



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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2016, 12:50:02 pm »
Just had a guy here on a F800GS. Been on superbikes for years, but just paid too many admission of speed fines he said.
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2016, 01:01:58 pm »
Just had a guy here on a F800GS. Been on superbikes for years, but just paid too many admission of speed fines he said.

Those aren't the problem.  It is when you get "NAG" fines which means a court appearance.  Anything over 30km above the speed limit here we get "NAG" fines.  In court you need to explain why you were going so fast then provide mitigation why your license should not be suspended
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #25 on: July 22, 2016, 01:56:24 pm »
Just had a guy here on a F800GS. Been on superbikes for years, but just paid too many admission of speed fines he said.

Those aren't the problem.  It is when you get "NAG" fines which means a court appearance.  Anything over 30km above the speed limit here we get "NAG" fines.  In court you need to explain why you were going so fast then provide mitigation why your license should not be suspended
I see, and the GSA LC is not much slower than the GS :pot:
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #26 on: July 25, 2016, 02:32:00 pm »
I never wanted the LC because I didn't want the crap Dynamic suspension package and all the other techno geekie rubbish. If I wanted flim flam I would get into gaming. Also the the Dynamic suspension doesn't cope well with really hard riding. Yes Wilbers do offer an upgrade but I wasn't keen.....
Then cometh the Trophy, ABS, Heated Grips and Traction Control, booooyaaaa - all I ever wanted. I was under pressure to change to the new model as my bike is my showroom and there are more and more LC riders out there.
Happy I am - I have obviously made a lot of mods to make it better - along with the obvious farkle I sell.
Cat out with a joining pipe that gets show of that stupid butterfly valve - Euro Emission junk!
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The handling (once I had changed the rubbish shocks the Trophy comes standard with) the power is better.

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Having to fill up every bloody 280Kms or so (the pain of being n ex Adventure rider)
The suspension (now fixed with new TFX shocks)
The RBW throttle - way too sensitive - (fixed by putting a Kaoko cruise control with a bit of friction added)
Noisy motor (aaarggghhhh)
Gear change could be better
Seats (fixed with Wunderlich ones -subsequently snaffled by a customer so I have to get another set!)
That stupid screen (fixed with a  Wunderlich screen and Wunderlich Screen Stabilizer bracket)

Still to do:

Factory gear quickshifter (can be retrofitted)
Rapid Bike power commander

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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #27 on: July 25, 2016, 03:11:14 pm »
Kewl. I agree with you - the electronic gizmos just complicates matters. The Trophy is just what one would want! And on the highveld with 15% power loss it might actually make sense.
So the Trophy has the same problem as all bikes. Built for a 75kg rider?... hence the suspension upgrade.
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #28 on: July 25, 2016, 04:22:10 pm »
 

Nice write up on the R1200GS LC   :laughing4:
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #29 on: July 25, 2016, 08:12:49 pm »
I upgraded to a Trophy from a F700GS.

I love it!

Check this sticker kit I got with the bike.

I've also got one of these  :ricky: thought it was unique but mine has a shift assist.
This bike gives me as big a smile as my HP 2 :thumleft:
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2016, 11:42:28 am »
Here is my Trophy with Crash bars, Tappet cover guards, head light guard, wide foot pegs and quick shifter
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2016, 12:03:47 pm »
Here is my Trophy with Crash bars, Tappet cover guards, head light guard, wide foot pegs and quick shifter

Very smart
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2016, 08:35:10 pm »
Kewl. I agree with you - the electronic gizmos just complicates matters. The Trophy is just what one would want! And on the highveld with 15% power loss it might actually make sense.
So the Trophy has the same problem as all bikes. Built for a 75kg rider?... hence the suspension upgrade.
FYI: Wunderlich wanted to incorporate the BoosterPlug in their range, but it contravenes the TUV laws...
After riding the bike I actually thought that something like the BoosterPlug would make it easier to ride the bike sedately as it will add usable rpm at the bottom end. It would be interesting to see if it does...


Is a Boosterplug not an electronic gizmo?   :peepwall:
























Just yanking your chain.  Have you not fitted one to an LC before?
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2016, 09:59:36 pm »
Here is my Trophy with Crash bars, Tappet cover guards, head light guard, wide foot pegs and quick shifter


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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2016, 01:30:04 pm »

Is a Boosterplug not an electronic gizmo?   :peepwall:
Just yanking your chain.  Have you not fitted one to an LC before?
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Many LCs have been fitted with the BoosterPlug, but I have not ridden one with a BoosterPlug installed.
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2016, 08:43:23 pm »

Many LCs have been fitted with the BoosterPlug, but I have not ridden one with a BoosterPlug installed.

Cool.  Thanks.  Insist on a test ride next time.
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Re: My first ride: BMW R1200GS LC Trophy
« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2016, 10:00:42 am »

Many LCs have been fitted with the BoosterPlug, but I have not ridden one with a BoosterPlug installed.

Cool.  Thanks.  Insist on a test ride next time.
I will not miss out on the opportunity☺
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