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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #300 on: June 29, 2018, 09:08:16 am »
I love my little Rally as well. It's an awesome commuter, but has also allowed me to finally start tackling the places that scared me on my 650GS. I've put my name down for Hardy's Kaokoland tour next year (includes Van Zyls and lots of sand).

The bike is light and nippy. I broke my wrist just under 6 weeks ago (riding my 230 in a funduro) and was able to start riding again (wearing my splint) within 4 weeks and 4 days (I actually did a 20-odd km trip on the 3-week mark, but that was stupid). The clutch is light, needing only 2 fingers to operate, and the super-soft suspension, which people love to hate, cushions my wrist from bumps. If I only had my car or 650GS, I'd still have to rely on others to get around.
Going to be a ball, at first I found my Rally a bit loose in the sand (more than some other bikes) not sure if it was down to the narrow rear tyre ? Would like to try a D606 and see if it's wider in profile. All in all the IRC's are not bad as a 50/50 tyre. Getting some good mileage and they grip well on tar.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #301 on: June 29, 2018, 10:20:48 am »
I'll have to go ride one before I settle on the 300 Versys, the little Honda looking more attractive by the day.   
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #302 on: June 29, 2018, 11:46:06 am »
I'll have to go ride one before I settle on the 300 Versys, the little Honda looking more attractive by the day.
Can ride mine if you like, Honda also has demos. Salesman took me on a 40km outride to test the Rally. Go for a demo you can save about 10k over a new one.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #303 on: June 30, 2018, 07:07:33 am »
I'll have to go ride one before I settle on the 300 Versys, the little Honda looking more attractive by the day.

You really need to decide what you want to do with the bike. In my mind, you can't even compare the the versus to the Rally in terms of true off-road adventure riding capability. The Rally is just in a different league (even with the Kak rear shock). The versus will be a better commuter though. Having said that, I commute daily on my Rally and really enjoy it because it's good at it to. For me, the off-road biased of the Rally and looks make the decision simple. It's just so versatile. I don't feel constrained in the decision to join in on an adventure ride.


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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #304 on: June 30, 2018, 10:03:57 am »
Barry

I had two riders with Rally's on a recent trip in March.
The bikes were fantastic.
I know the one guy upgraded the rear, but the other did not, and still rode the route in style.
@LoopSoosStroop

Make sure you test the Versys in technical areas too.
Both good engines - very different purposes as far as I am concerned

I was going to ask the somewhat rhetorical question about if the Rally is suitable for your trip in May next year but I actually know the answer.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #305 on: June 30, 2018, 06:27:47 pm »
It's a heart vs. mind thing. I need a commuter, with some highway work every now and then. For that the Kawa will be king. I don't really have time a.t.m. for adventure riding anyway, but the Rally reminds me of my TT250R, and I loved that thing.
 
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #306 on: July 01, 2018, 04:24:50 pm »
It's a heart vs. mind thing. I need a commuter, with some highway work every now and then. For that the Kawa will be king. I don't really have time a.t.m. for adventure riding anyway, but the Rally reminds me of my TT250R, and I loved that thing.
The Rally's ability on tar is actually what surprised me the most, I think it will make a very good commuter and if needed can still do 120km/h without vibes or 21/18 wheels bouncing up and down. It is much better on road than what my XR250, DR250 and even DRZ400 was.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #307 on: July 01, 2018, 04:32:12 pm »
It's a heart vs. mind thing. I need a commuter, with some highway work every now and then. For that the Kawa will be king. I don't really have time a.t.m. for adventure riding anyway, but the Rally reminds me of my TT250R, and I loved that thing.
The Rally's ability on tar is actually what surprised me the most, I think it will make a very good commuter and if needed can still do 120km/h without vibes or 21/18 wheels bouncing up and down. It is much better on road than what my XR250, DR250 and even DRZ400 was.

We did a trip through Molteno pass and De Jagers pass on our way back to Loxton. I rode the Rally, and enjoyed it thoroughly.  The power output figures on these bikes is very misleading.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #308 on: July 02, 2018, 11:30:26 am »
I did my 12000km service this weekend. Mostly commuting but whenever the opportunity came up to go off road I never had to stand back and everyone on much fancier and expensive bikes were amazed everytime with the Rally. I ride mine around Joburg on the highways cruising at 120km/h gps speed all day long. What really impressed me was how stable the bike is on the road compared to my old DRZ. And what a pleasure to be riding a bike that really costs cents per km. I am still on my original irc tires and I guess the rear will give me 15000km. Chain and sprockets still looks brand new after 12k km.
These are seriously underrated bikes and they are very versatile. Mine honestly by far exceeded all my expectations.
 
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #309 on: July 02, 2018, 11:47:51 am »
As a matter of interest what did the service cost
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #310 on: July 02, 2018, 01:07:08 pm »
As a matter of interest what did the service cost
R500 for honda oil, oil filter, crush washer and oil filter gasket
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #311 on: July 02, 2018, 01:23:24 pm »
What is the Honda Oil. Is the bottle branded by Honda or did they give you Castrol Activo X?

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #312 on: July 02, 2018, 01:38:28 pm »
Ah I thought the 12k service was more than just an oil change
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #313 on: July 02, 2018, 03:01:01 pm »
I love my little Rally as well. It's an awesome commuter, but has also allowed me to finally start tackling the places that scared me on my 650GS. I've put my name down for Hardy's Kaokoland tour next year (includes Van Zyls and lots of sand).

The bike is light and nippy. I broke my wrist just under 6 weeks ago (riding my 230 in a funduro) and was able to start riding again (wearing my splint) within 4 weeks and 4 days (I actually did a 20-odd km trip on the 3-week mark, but that was stupid). The clutch is light, needing only 2 fingers to operate, and the super-soft suspension, which people love to hate, cushions my wrist from bumps. If I only had my car or 650GS, I'd still have to rely on others to get around.
Going to be a ball, at first I found my Rally a bit loose in the sand (more than some other bikes) not sure if it was down to the narrow rear tyre ? Would like to try a D606 and see if it's wider in profile. All in all the IRC's are not bad as a 50/50 tyre. Getting some good mileage and they grip well on tar.

Where did you get the IRC tyres from? I a looking for a set of the IRC Rally TR8 but I cant find a seller/distributor in South Africa.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #314 on: July 02, 2018, 03:10:10 pm »
I love my little Rally as well. It's an awesome commuter, but has also allowed me to finally start tackling the places that scared me on my 650GS. I've put my name down for Hardy's Kaokoland tour next year (includes Van Zyls and lots of sand).

The bike is light and nippy. I broke my wrist just under 6 weeks ago (riding my 230 in a funduro) and was able to start riding again (wearing my splint) within 4 weeks and 4 days (I actually did a 20-odd km trip on the 3-week mark, but that was stupid). The clutch is light, needing only 2 fingers to operate, and the super-soft suspension, which people love to hate, cushions my wrist from bumps. If I only had my car or 650GS, I'd still have to rely on others to get around.
Going to be a ball, at first I found my Rally a bit loose in the sand (more than some other bikes) not sure if it was down to the narrow rear tyre ? Would like to try a D606 and see if it's wider in profile. All in all the IRC's are not bad as a 50/50 tyre. Getting some good mileage and they grip well on tar.

Where did you get the IRC tyres from? I a looking for a set of the IRC Rally TR8 but I cant find a seller/distributor in South Africa.
The Rally comes with IRC, doubt you can buy them here is SA
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #315 on: July 02, 2018, 03:23:15 pm »
Hi Sidetrack, OK thanks for the info, they look like good tyres, pity they not available locally.

Glad you guys loving the Honda Rally,they look like great bikes enjoy.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #316 on: July 09, 2018, 12:27:09 pm »
Hi Rally Riders!

I'm still not decided on the 300 Versys vs. 250 Rally conundrum.

I think the added punch of the 300 will not be required for my commute, except for days when I want to take the highway. Even then, speeds will be 110 max, so should be ok on the Rally. This will be one or two afternoons per week.

Wonder how running costs will compare? I'm going to be doing between 12k and 15k km per year. Which motor will last longer and be cheaper to rebuild (doing it yourself)? How does the warranties and service cost compare?

Fuelly.com fuel consumption on the Rally is roughly 28-30 kmpl, and the Versys about 24-25 kmpl.

 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #317 on: July 09, 2018, 01:16:24 pm »
My average over the past 7 months 27.3

You'll manage 110 no problem.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #318 on: July 09, 2018, 01:27:37 pm »
Hi Rally Riders!

I'm still not decided on the 300 Versys vs. 250 Rally conundrum.

I think the added punch of the 300 will not be required for my commute, except for days when I want to take the highway. Even then, speeds will be 110 max, so should be ok on the Rally. This will be one or two afternoons per week.

Wonder how running costs will compare? I'm going to be doing between 12k and 15k km per year. Which motor will last longer and be cheaper to rebuild (doing it yourself)? How does the warranties and service cost compare?

Fuelly.com fuel consumption on the Rally is roughly 28-30 kmpl, and the Versys about 24-25 kmpl.
With either I reckon you don't have to worry about a rebuild at all. These bikes are not high performance machines, quite low stressed and I suspect 70 000 - 80 000km will easily be achieved before some oil usage starts. Off course a single should be cheaper to rebuild than a twin. What I like is that the CRF250L motor is proven and I have not heard of any mechanical issues on them.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #319 on: July 09, 2018, 01:34:37 pm »
I use the Rally for my daily commute and am loving it. The low power is not a hassle for the highway stretches on my commute. The only place where you feel it, is if you tackle long stretches of highway (e.g. the 150 km Piketberg to Cape Town N7 highway run, which I've done twice now).

It's an incredibly fun bike and I find myself eye-balling pavements and grassy verges as interesting alternative obstacle courses.

Fuel consumption is frugal. I get an average 3.3 lit/100km (30 km/lit), so fuel cost is under 50c/km. You can check my stats here: http://www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/crf250l-rally/2018/zanie/773316/log. I list the types of riding I do with each fuel-up in the notes, so you can see how this affects fuel consumption.

I'd suggest you contact Rhian on this forum. She recently sold her DRZ400 in favour of the Rally as a commuter.

I'm not sure about warranty (think it's one year?), but the moment it's over, I'll do the oil servicing myself and start learning any other easy bits I can do.