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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #220 on: May 12, 2018, 03:48:42 pm »
yay!
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #221 on: May 12, 2018, 03:52:49 pm »
I like the XR too Jacque. You okes having a joll? Ride safe.  :thumleft:

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #222 on: May 12, 2018, 03:55:25 pm »
Here are a few pics from this mornings test.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #223 on: May 12, 2018, 03:58:20 pm »
And a few more.

The last one was a photo opportunity because the Helicopter was at the scene of a massive accident.  :-\

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #224 on: May 12, 2018, 05:04:30 pm »
Superfoxi let us know how it works out, and you may have a queue
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #225 on: May 12, 2018, 07:09:46 pm »
Superfoxi I'm following with interest. The dilemma with the suspension issues are well documented, and I refer to the following groups on FB:

Honda CRF250L & Rally owners
CRF250L Owners club
CRF250L Mods Liberate your LRP

« Last Edit: May 12, 2018, 07:28:26 pm by Grappa »
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #226 on: May 13, 2018, 07:33:09 am »
Mike, I have my Rally shock out now. Perhaps I should send it down to you for some love.

Are heavier springs available, this is really what it needs. Perhaps a collar could be turned to preload the spring even more but I'm not sure that's the best solution. Also, I'm guessing the damping needs to be increased by at least 30 - 40%.

Did you get rider feedback from the shock you worked on Mike?

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #227 on: May 13, 2018, 06:52:43 pm »
Mike, I have my Rally shock out now. Perhaps I should send it down to you for some love.

Are heavier springs available, this is really what it needs. Perhaps a collar could be turned to preload the spring even more but I'm not sure that's the best solution. Also, I'm guessing the damping needs to be increased by at least 30 - 40%.

Did you get rider feedback from the shock you worked on Mike?

The bike is back on its wheels but I was away on the weekend and didnít have a chance to ride it.
But I can already tell that the spring replacement front and back made a big difference. Static sag and rider sag are now within spec and bike stands much taller because of that. The bike Iím working on is brand new and the customer doesnít want me to open the shock (warrantiy issues). But it would be a good idea to re-valve it as it needs much more rebound damping.
Send me your shock and I will see what can be done.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #228 on: May 13, 2018, 07:00:31 pm »
The rally rear shock looks cheaply made, will be interesting to see if anything can be done with it.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #229 on: May 13, 2018, 09:16:14 pm »
Blauth I can confirm 112/113 km/h at 7000rpm. Mine has a vibration that starts just before 7000 then goes away somewhat just over 7000. Other riders experience the same ?
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #230 on: May 14, 2018, 08:48:03 am »
Blauth I can confirm 112/113 km/h at 7000rpm. Mine has a vibration that starts just before 7000 then goes away somewhat just over 7000. Other riders experience the same ?

Jacque, lets hook up during the week some time so you can take my Rally for a ride with the Tornado shock in it. You'll be gobsmacked at the difference.

Let me know, you have my cell.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #231 on: May 14, 2018, 12:30:33 pm »
Anybody wants a free crashbar or pannier racks for their Rally? Surprised nobody jumped at this yet (the heading is not very clear though)

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=224236.0

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #232 on: May 14, 2018, 02:14:54 pm »
Blauth I can confirm 112/113 km/h at 7000rpm. Mine has a vibration that starts just before 7000 then goes away somewhat just over 7000. Other riders experience the same ?

Jacque, lets hook up during the week some time so you can take my Rally for a ride with the Tornado shock in it. You'll be gobsmacked at the difference.

Let me know, you have my cell.
Can only imagine, was surprised how stable it was in the rocks. Really tracked nice and straight. Can only imagine with better shock at the back. What I also picked up was that the bike had no tendency to get rim impacts on the rocks. I ran 1.5 bar as per specs and between the plush front shocks and fairly light weight of the bike it just gave a smooth ride. Given I did not ride it very fast.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #233 on: May 14, 2018, 07:48:37 pm »
Ag please mister Honda if you are reading this bring us the 450 Rally. I rode about 40km back home last night on the freeway and this is where the 250 has its biggest drawback. Although it goes much better than most 250's on the open section it develops a very noticable vibration at 7000rpm and above that most people will just have too much mechanical sympathy to push it harder. So you are basicly stuck at 100 - 110km/h which is more like 90 - 100 GPS speed.

Take the 250 drop in a 450 motor with longer service intervals that makes about 45-50hp, put an adjustable shock on the back, install springs in both fork legs not just one and increase the fuel tank to 12L to ensure range stays at 350km. The rest can stay excactly like it is. It will be so darn close to the ultimate offroad based dual sport bike and will surely sell by the truck loads.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #234 on: May 14, 2018, 08:30:46 pm »
Hmmm, mine sits happily at 115 gps hour after hour if required, only at about 125 do I start to feel a little sorry for it - and I am running a 13 on the front, so my top end should be down a little over stock.

But I wouldn't say no to a 450.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #235 on: May 14, 2018, 08:32:23 pm »
Hmmm, mine sits happily at 115 gps hour after hour if required, only at about 125 do I start to feel a little sorry for it - and I am running a 13 on the front, so my top end should be down a little over stock.

But I wouldn't say no to a 450.
No noticable vibes at 7000rpm ? Maybe I should just keep it there and it will dissapear when broken in  :biggrin:
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #236 on: May 14, 2018, 08:36:27 pm »
Today - so I may be a little looser than you ;)

However I will have more power than you, being at sea level most of the time.

No serious vibes - well nothing I wouldn't expect.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #237 on: May 14, 2018, 08:38:31 pm »
Today - so I may be a little looser than you ;)

However I will have more power than you, being at sea level most of the time.

No serious vibes - well nothing I wouldn't expect.
Interesting thanks, only on 1300km now. Heading to Baviaans in the distance.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #238 on: May 16, 2018, 02:31:16 pm »
I thought you lot would be interested. I received a response from YSS. There is a chap on AdvRider.com who has modified the crap out of his Rally (Minky something or other) and he's fitted the YSS on the rear and speaks highly of it. This is the response from the YSS sales guys:

The MZ456 shock, we have in stock, that is adjustable on preload and rebound
> this rebound affects also the compression, price is 361 euro including
VAT, excluding shipping.

The othe version with separate reservoir on a hose has a compression damping
extra on it, price 640 euro including VAT, excluding shipment. We don't have
this one in stock and should be ordered from the factory in Thailand, lead
time about 4 weeks.
Please let me know, ok?

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 I think I'm gonna go local first.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #239 on: May 16, 2018, 04:13:21 pm »
I thought you lot would be interested. I received a response from YSS. There is a chap on AdvRider.com who has modified the crap out of his Rally (Minky something or other) and he's fitted the YSS on the rear and speaks highly of it. This is the response from the YSS sales guys:

The MZ456 shock, we have in stock, that is adjustable on preload and rebound
> this rebound affects also the compression, price is 361 euro including
VAT, excluding shipping.

The othe version with separate reservoir on a hose has a compression damping
extra on it, price 640 euro including VAT, excluding shipment. We don't have
this one in stock and should be ordered from the factory in Thailand, lead
time about 4 weeks.
Please let me know, ok?

With Best Regards,
Dennis van Schijndel,
YSS suspension Europe
Duinweg 8
5482 VR Schijndel ( The Netherlands )
T : +31(0)73-6110221
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www.yss-suspension.eu
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 I think I'm gonna go local first.
Hmm ordered from Thailand. The Ohlins is also made in Thailand, wonder if that is not the 600 odd euro one.
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