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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #241 on: May 16, 2018, 04:49:47 pm »
I think they are both from YSS, they are just different spec levels. YSS manufacturer is in Thailand which doesn't bother me, KTM's are made in India and most high tech stuff now days is made in that neck of the woods anyway.

361 Euro only has preload and rebound adjustment (although he indicates the rebound affects compression damping too)
640 Euro has preload, compression, rebound and a remote reservoir.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #242 on: May 18, 2018, 09:49:23 am »
Getting to like my little bike, press the starter and vroom - very quiet, very Honda  :deal: The mapping is spot on, some other bikes i had were a bit hesitant and even cut out at certain conditions with the injection.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #243 on: May 21, 2018, 03:39:46 pm »
So we headed out this weekend. You can read the ride report here. It's pretty brief .... don't have much time.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=224531.0


My review of the Rally after the weekend is as follows:

The Tornado shock works very well. I hope I can get my original Rally shock updated to work as well or a suitable replacement. The bikes handling is very neutral and predictable. In fact, it's incredibly easy to ride. So much so that after a section where you should be huffing and puffing and panting, you find yourself surprised at the ease of the experience. My bike is probably about 40mm lower than the standard Rally now but there were no ground clearance issues. I actually like the front suspension. I only managed to bottom it out once where I didn't de-weight the bike sufficiently but generally, it tracks true, isn't harsh and is supple enough to absorb some pretty decent air and some whoops if done carefully. The ergonomics are great on this bike. Having raised the bars a bit, it's more comfortable standing up. One thing that I think could have been improved though is the foot pegs could have been dropped by about 25mm. Wind protection is very good and I didn't experience any buffetting except when there was a pretty stiff side wind on the way home.

The total mileage is now 3500km and I'm finding that the bike is becoming smoother and pulling a little stronger. When doing jeep tracks, the bike's power is adequate. I miss the power slides on demand and wheelies over obstacles but the general handling makes up for that to a degree. Where the bike is severely lacking is that ability to stand on uphills on rough dirt roads. The hill and wind resistance just overcomes the little engine and your speed comes down dramatically. This is a real bummer!!

Going up to Kaapsehoop, it's a pretty stiff hill and the little Rally needed some 5th gear treatment but I only had to go down to fourth on some dirt uphills. I have to admit that I had thoughts of moving the little bike along after the trip on the tar sections. Not because it's uncomfortable but it's just not powerful enough for long stretches on tar. Then you do a section of jeep track and all is forgiven again. Also, my commute is not highway business so it's primary purpose in life which is commuting, it's actually great.

My fuel consumption probably averaged about 27km/l for the trip.

This bike rides like an oversized dirtbike but in comfort. At no time does the bike make you tired. In my opinion, it rides even lighter than the 650 class, naked dual purpose bikes.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #244 on: May 21, 2018, 07:09:40 pm »
Lekker feedback ! How do you find the seat ? Not sure if its that strap but after about 50-80km my ass starts protesting. Weird I have done serious distance  on a DRZ with far less discomfort. Only bike that was worse is a TE610.
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http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=134175.0 Penge's pass and the Old Forest http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=9421.0 - Orange Atlantic adventure http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=7514.0 - 805 km day trip http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=20260.0 - East Cape Bash http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=70199.0 - Two KTM thumpers head north
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #245 on: May 21, 2018, 07:26:11 pm »
Thanks for the feedback blauth. I'm glad you got to try the bike out in the rougher terrain; where it really shines. It is indeed an incredibly easy ride on the rough stuff and a great commuter, but definitely not so great on the highway.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #246 on: May 21, 2018, 07:34:19 pm »
Remove the strap, 1st thing I did
 

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« Reply #247 on: May 21, 2018, 07:51:46 pm »
Remove the strap, 1st thing I did

Me too. The 50 grams saving also gets you a 0.0025km/h advantage.

I always ride with cycling shorts so ass only got numb after about 100km on the tar.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #248 on: May 21, 2018, 07:57:18 pm »
Zanie, I think you should try something. You'll see I tilted my windscreen forward. Why don't you try the same. Get two M5 x 60mm bolts, a bit of fuel tube and tilt your windscreen and see if that helps with your wind buffeting issue. Mine was good and I thought about your problem so tried to simulate different heights with my head but I couldn't get any buffeting.

Perhaps the stiffness of the helmet peak or helmet design has something to do with it too.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #249 on: May 21, 2018, 08:02:17 pm »
blauth: Interesting suggestion. Maybe I'll go that route.

With regards to the seat: I don't seem to have any issues with it. Perhaps because a lady's bottom has enough padding as is.  :imaposer:
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #250 on: May 21, 2018, 08:06:11 pm »
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« Reply #251 on: May 23, 2018, 05:31:00 pm »
I see some sites suggest that a XR250 / 400 or even 600 shock fits on the 250L, will this apply to the Rally too ?
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #252 on: May 24, 2018, 09:04:53 am »
I see some sites suggest that a XR250 / 400 or even 600 shock fits on the 250L, will this apply to the Rally too ?

Jacques, I'm sure it will. The shock must be 420mm long. The shock can't have any piggyback reservoir on it though, no space. Naturally, the one side has a Male end fitting and the other a female (U shaped) end fitting, both M10 I think. I am a little concerned about the diameter of the spring because this shocks diameter is pretty small. If you can find one that fits of course, it would be a win because they are typically adjustable and of a decent quality.

Are there any bike scrap yards in the Pretoria area that you know of?


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« Reply #253 on: May 24, 2018, 06:50:01 pm »
I see some sites suggest that a XR250 / 400 or even 600 shock fits on the 250L, will this apply to the Rally too ?

Jacques, I'm sure it will. The shock must be 420mm long. The shock can't have any piggyback reservoir on it though, no space. Naturally, the one side has a Male end fitting and the other a female (U shaped) end fitting, both M10 I think. I am a little concerned about the diameter of the spring because this shocks diameter is pretty small. If you can find one that fits of course, it would be a win because they are typically adjustable and of a decent quality.

Are there any bike scrap yards in the Pretoria area that you know of?
Bothas closed a long time ago and not sure if Perrys are still going. But I know a guy  :biggrin:
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« Reply #255 on: May 25, 2018, 09:21:29 am »


Quote from: blauth on Today at 09:04:53 am


>Quote from: sidetrack on Yesterday at 05:31:00 pm
Are there any bike scrap yards in the Pretoria area that you know of?

Kiril, out at 77 West Street, Kempton Park, possibly has around 1000 rear shocks for every bite k imaniable; maybe give him a shout, very knowledgeable, and MANUFACTURES ( then hard chromes) his own fork stanchions, too, interesting guy!
Good luck
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« Reply #256 on: May 25, 2018, 10:21:22 am »
The great oil debate, what will you guys be using in your 250's ? I'm thinking Castrol Actevo, had great results with it in my DRZ and even KTM 525's.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #257 on: June 04, 2018, 08:23:13 am »
Anyone notice the pinging from the stock silencer after a ride ? Sounds like something is cooking inside, wonder if it's the CAT ? Aftermarket silencer will be much better at getting the heat out. Look at this beauty  :drif:

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« Reply #258 on: June 04, 2018, 08:24:25 am »
The great oil debate, what will you guys be using in your 250's ? I'm thinking Castrol Actevo, had great results with it in my DRZ and even KTM 525's.
Going to use Power F1 since Midas sells it or Liqui Moly will see
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #259 on: June 04, 2018, 08:33:37 am »
The stock IRC tyres are not favoured by many off road but I must say they do ok on dirt certainly much better than most stock tyres and they have very good grip on tar  :thumleft:
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