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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #640 on: October 08, 2018, 02:03:16 pm »
Check my post, for air filter PN cheaper that the Rally part, I replaced mine at 12k think the manual calls for 24k only
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #641 on: October 08, 2018, 02:11:59 pm »
Check my post, for air filter PN cheaper that the Rally part, I replaced mine at 12k think the manual calls for 24k only

I thought that was the Rally part... Jeepers what does the Rally one cost then?
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #642 on: October 08, 2018, 03:36:16 pm »
Anyone managing to get the front wheel up on a Rally? Granted I've been off a bike for four years, but this thing is not oozing with low down torque. Not really keen to drop a tooth on the front sprocket, so it will probably need some more practice and more revs.
Blauth got the front wheel up for a good 20m. Or maybe he was just smelling the beer at Que Sera already  :ricky:
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #643 on: October 08, 2018, 10:34:33 pm »
Anyone managing to get the front wheel up on a Rally? Granted I've been off a bike for four years, but this thing is not oozing with low down torque. Not really keen to drop a tooth on the front sprocket, so it will probably need some more practice and more revs.
Blauth got the front wheel up for a good 20m. Or maybe he was just smelling the beer at Que Sera already  :ricky:

It's really hard to wheelie a bike with a rear shock that sags like a witches tit. Your meager power goes straight into the shock. With the harder rear shock, clutching and decent timing, you can lift it in second and then try keep it together ....  :thumleft:

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #644 on: October 09, 2018, 08:15:38 am »
Eish, the shock thing keeps on coming back. Not sure if I'll be able to do anything about it besides preload.

 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #645 on: October 09, 2018, 04:31:55 pm »
Ok sure by now there should be a solution right? What about a visit to Hilton Hayward? Progressive springs front and rear?

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #646 on: October 09, 2018, 04:37:53 pm »
Ok sure by now there should be a solution right? What about a visit to Hilton Hayward? Progressive springs front and rear?

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Problem is the shock is just crap, no rebound and compression adjustment available so a stiffer spring might just make things worse like shooting you out of the seat  :biggrin: But I'm no expert lets see there may be a solution yet.
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #647 on: October 09, 2018, 05:55:34 pm »
Howzit  :)

So I am doing the spring upgrades in the front and rear. Doing what I believe is a wilbers progressive spring in the rear and in the front is the racetech spring.
Friday is when the rear spring will be in and the front is being ordered in to land in about 3 weeks.

I weigh 118kg and bike is about 300km to go till broken in but will try some dirt this weekend at Maraisburg. So I will try give some feed back.

I went for the springs before doing the whole rear shock with a wilbers set up which is about 10 grand.

Hoping for huge positives just with the stiffer springs. I am worried for preload on the rear with the spring but time will tell.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #648 on: October 09, 2018, 08:10:31 pm »
Nice keep us posted
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #649 on: October 12, 2018, 03:48:31 pm »
Ek het my Rally nou vir n uur lank en so 31 Km plaaspad later.

WAT n BIKE!

Dis die meeste pret op 2 wiele wat ek nog ooit gehad het.
Het my CRF 250 L verkoop vir hom en ek moet se ek het gedink die L was goed maar
hierdie fiets vat die koek.

Afgesien van al die kosmetiese veranderinge is daar twee dinge wat hierdie fiets amazing maak:

1.  Die ratkas is n ware rally kas met baie meer speelruimte in die laer ratte.

2.  Die vering, veral die voorwiel is baie vergewensgesind en ek het lanklaas n bike se
     gat so baie rondgegooi soos met hierdie fiets.

Die enjin is nog effens lui op 2500Km en dit lyk nie of die yoshi pyp enigsiens anders doen as
om te veel te raas nie.

Maar hierdie fiets gaan my 1200 laat staan en vasroes ... dink hy sal miskien moet gaan :(

 
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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #650 on: October 12, 2018, 03:58:15 pm »
Welcome to The 250 Rally club ! Lyk my jy geniet hom al klaar  :thumleft:
« Last Edit: October 12, 2018, 03:58:40 pm by wilfwalk »
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #651 on: October 12, 2018, 04:34:46 pm »
Maar hierdie fiets gaan my 1200 laat staan en vasroes ... dink hy sal miskien moet gaan :(

Ek het nog gedink ek gaan my 650GS gebruik. Hy's nou verkoop...
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #652 on: October 12, 2018, 06:20:13 pm »
Ek het my Rally nou vir n uur lank en so 31 Km plaaspad later.

WAT n BIKE!

Dis die meeste pret op 2 wiele wat ek nog ooit gehad het.
Het my CRF 250 L verkoop vir hom en ek moet se ek het gedink die L was goed maar
hierdie fiets vat die koek.

Afgesien van al die kosmetiese veranderinge is daar twee dinge wat hierdie fiets amazing maak:

1.  Die ratkas is n ware rally kas met baie meer speelruimte in die laer ratte.

2.  Die vering, veral die voorwiel is baie vergewensgesind en ek het lanklaas n bike se
     gat so baie rondgegooi soos met hierdie fiets.

Die enjin is nog effens lui op 2500Km en dit lyk nie of die yoshi pyp enigsiens anders doen as
om te veel te raas nie.

Maar hierdie fiets gaan my 1200 laat staan en vasroes ... dink hy sal miskien moet gaan :(

En het jy geen probleme ondervind met die agterste shock soos Blau nie?
Wonder of syne nie dalk op n Vrydag middag vervaardig was nie
Hoeveel weeg jy mater?
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #653 on: October 13, 2018, 07:30:01 am »


En het jy geen probleme ondervind met die agterste shock soos Blau nie?
Wonder of syne nie dalk op n Vrydag middag vervaardig was nie
Hoeveel weeg jy mater?

Hi Tom. Ek weeg so 92 kg. Al wanneer die agtershock pla  is as jy afkom na jy oor iets gespring het. Die damping voel swak.
Maar ek jaag maar net hier op die plaas rond en doen nie rerig hoespoed tegniese goed nie.
Ek gaan hom stywer stel en kyk wat gebeur en later miskien kyk of iemand iets daaraan kan doen.
Lyk of ek moet soek vir n tornado shock en laat oordoen.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #654 on: October 13, 2018, 09:46:31 am »
I'm 76 kg and cannot get close to recommended sag even with the preload at maximum. Rebound damping is almost non existent and gets worse the more you up the preload.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #655 on: October 13, 2018, 01:14:59 pm »
I'm 76 kg and cannot get close to recommended sag even with the preload at maximum. Rebound damping is almost non existent and gets worse the more you up the preload.

I think the rebound damping is the main problem. After that it needs a stiffer spring if required. @superfoxi  Did you receive that sample unit from Blauth yet? Would be very interested to know if you can fix the rebound damping on the CRF 250 L/Rally shock.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2018, 01:15:23 pm by Constantinople »
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #656 on: October 14, 2018, 10:49:09 am »
Not sure if this is kown fact or rumour but 250 to be replaced by 300?
Same as in CBR 300 but a tad more torque orientated.
Just weird in a way, we all wait for small capicity bikes en when they arrive we want them bigger again
My idea of a ds bike was always the DRZ400 and then sadly it left the market and second hand hard to find in good condition.


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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #657 on: October 14, 2018, 09:21:58 pm »
I'm 76 kg and cannot get close to recommended sag even with the preload at maximum. Rebound damping is almost non existent and gets worse the more you up the preload.

I think the rebound damping is the main problem. After that it needs a stiffer spring if required. @superfoxi  Did you receive that sample unit from Blauth yet? Would be very interested to know if you can fix the rebound damping on the CRF 250 L/Rally shock.

Yes, I received the shock and took it apart. Changing the rebound damping wouldn't be a problem and I have the correct shims and service parts in stock...just need a complete bike to mount the shock to see the difference. I might have to do that more than once to achieve the desired damping.
 

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #658 on: October 15, 2018, 07:41:59 am »
I'm 76 kg and cannot get close to recommended sag even with the preload at maximum. Rebound damping is almost non existent and gets worse the more you up the preload.

I think the rebound damping is the main problem. After that it needs a stiffer spring if required. @superfoxi  Did you receive that sample unit from Blauth yet? Would be very interested to know if you can fix the rebound damping on the CRF 250 L/Rally shock.

Yes, I received the shock and took it apart. Changing the rebound damping wouldn't be a problem and I have the correct shims and service parts in stock...just need a complete bike to mount the shock to see the difference. I might have to do that more than once to achieve the desired damping.

And Mike, after living with this Wilbers unit and some careful consideration, perhaps 20% stiffer (shock and increase damping) would be more appropriate. As much as this Wilbers shock has transformed my Rally from a wallowy barge into something that feels more like dirt bike handling but it's now just a touch stiff for adventure riding, most noticeable on sections where there are rocks sticking out of the road. Most it's work is for commuting so for my particular application, it's excellent.

Come on Cape Town Rally owners, touch base with Mike and be the test pilot.

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Re: CRF250 Rally/DS
« Reply #659 on: October 15, 2018, 07:43:47 am »
There is a WhatsApp group for Rally owners. If you lads want to be added to it, PM SideTrack or myself.

If you do want to be added, please try keep the topic Rally related.