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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2016, 07:59:51 pm »
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2016, 08:22:02 pm »
Are you guys sure it is not the 1st of April :peepwall:

Must say, I also don't get it. I am probably already an old ballie, but these retro bike are dead ugly to me. Give me the latest hottest tech in a well designed bike with beautiful lines and that will be my BOTY.
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2016, 08:43:19 pm »
At least the AT came 2nd. So, there is an adventure bike in the top 5
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2016, 08:56:51 pm »
At least the AT came 2nd. So, there is an adventure bike in the top 5

Triumph Explorer XCA third, so 2 x DS bikes in the top few.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2016, 08:58:13 pm by TheBear »
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2016, 09:53:43 pm »
At least the AT came 2nd. So, there is an adventure bike in the top 5

Triumph Explorer XCA third, so 2 x DS bikes in the top few.


I have it on good authority that all testing took place on tar only. If this was indeed the case, it would be interesting to hear:

1) Are DS bikes compared to road bikes on tar?
2) How are DS bikes compared with each other without DS riding?

..........or am I missing the point?

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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2016, 08:02:13 am »
At least the AT came 2nd. So, there is an adventure bike in the top 5

Triumph Explorer XCA third, so 2 x DS bikes in the top few.


I have it on good authority that all testing took place on tar only. If this was indeed the case, it would be interesting to hear:

1) Are DS bikes compared to road bikes on tar?
2) How are DS bikes compared with each other without DS riding?

..........or am I missing the point?

Keep in mind that these are professional journalists who have mostly ridden these bikes before. If anything, BotY is more of a refresher than a test.
« Last Edit: August 04, 2016, 09:51:06 am by 2-Stroke »
 

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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2016, 08:16:16 am »
At least the AT came 2nd. So, there is an adventure bike in the top 5

Triumph Explorer XCA third, so 2 x DS bikes in the top few.


I have it on good authority that all testing took place on tar only. If this was indeed the case, it would be interesting to hear:

1) Are DS bikes compared to road bikes on tar?
2) How are DS bikes compared with each other without DS riding?

..........or am I missing the point?

Keep in mind that these a professional journalists who have mostly ridden these bikes before. If anything, BotY is more of a refresher than a test.


Thanks for the reply

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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2016, 08:27:21 am »
The concept of BOTY means nothing to me, just industry and media hype and bullshit.
That said, the Thruxton is a beautiful machine that looks exactly like a road going motorcycle should look.
 What's ugly to me is the pointless attempts at 'styling' on modern machines with their ridiculous  arse - in - the - air tail ends, and the plastic shrouding around the steering head and funny shaped headlights.
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2016, 10:44:01 am »
Would not have predicted that in a million years :eek7:
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2016, 11:53:28 am »
Would not have predicted that in a million years :eek7:

Me neither.  My money was on the Honda AT.
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #30 on: August 04, 2016, 12:18:53 pm »
Would not have predicted that in a million years :eek7:

Me neither.  My money was on the Honda AT.

Just because i don't like it does not mean it is crap. Buuut how does it sell?
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #31 on: August 04, 2016, 12:26:21 pm »
I would not have predicted the result but evaluating objectively the brief is to judge whether the bike is better than it competition.

1) Thruxton R - Yes this new model is better than the competition in the retro cafe racer class.
2) Africa Twin - No, better bikes is class (eg. Triumph 800 XCX)
3) Explorer XCA - No, better bikes in class (eg. KTM SA, 1200 GSA)
4) S1000XR - Possibly, main competition is Ducati MS and Superduke GT
5) XDiavel - Possibly, competes with the other cruisers on the market and I don't know them.
6) KTM GT - No, as a sport tourer the seat needs to be a lot better see S1000XR. Also the Duke R has already won so they probably did not feel it is not really new.

From the above the Thruxton is not such a surprise.
 

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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #32 on: August 04, 2016, 12:39:52 pm »
Just saying- Sometimes a committee can come to a conclusion that is more stupid than any of it's members........
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #33 on: August 04, 2016, 01:30:46 pm »
Just saying- Sometimes a committee can come to a conclusion that is more stupid than any of it's members........

There was no committee. The judges voted independently and anonymously.
 

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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2016, 01:35:05 pm »
I would not have predicted the result but evaluating objectively the brief is to judge whether the bike is better than it competition.

1) Thruxton R - Yes this new model is better than the competition in the retro cafe racer class.
2) Africa Twin - No, better bikes is class (eg. Triumph 800 XCX)
3) Explorer XCA - No, better bikes in class (eg. KTM SA, 1200 GSA)
4) S1000XR - Possibly, main competition is Ducati MS and Superduke GT
5) XDiavel - Possibly, competes with the other cruisers on the market and I don't know them.
6) KTM GT - No, as a sport tourer the seat needs to be a lot better see S1000XR. Also the Duke R has already won so they probably did not feel it is not really new.

From the above the Thruxton is not such a surprise.

So how do you deduce that the KTM or 1200 GSA could be a better bike than the Explorer XCA?
 

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« Reply #35 on: August 04, 2016, 01:40:43 pm »
Clearly sales / popularity have no influence, out of the finalist the only real seller (or mover) will be the AT.
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2016, 01:41:07 pm »
What do these Thruxtons cost?
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2016, 01:43:43 pm »
lot of old guys/hipsters on the judging panel?   ;D

A pic of all the hipsters  ;)

no one under 40    :peepwall:     ;D
Aha, 2Stroke Donovan is under 40.
Maybe he could enlighten us a bit about how the voting was done. ???
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2016, 01:46:50 pm »
I really though the Africa twin would win....

I guess the Thruxton is a worthy winner though
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Re: Pirelli SA BotY - and the winner is
« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2016, 01:55:53 pm »
Much bias must be......... no way otherwise that R could win........ ;) ;D
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