Swivel and Fixed Sidecar on Super Tenere

[Gérrard]

Test ride https://www.facebook.com/kobus.joubert.5/videos/vb.100001729442432/1155957117805259/?type=2&theater

Maar ek kry nie die link om te werk nie.

[woody1]

Ek laaik wat ek sien.  Geweet jy sal hom kan bou.  Mooi so Woody.    

Het jy hom al ooppad toe gevat.  Sal graag wil weet wat maak hy op spoed.   

Haar so amper 80 km/h in die straat af gevat.
Wil eers die res van die frame verstewig voordat ek vinniger gaan.

Gl nie jy kan daai FB link net so laai nie.  Dink jy moet hom op Youtube eers save en dan laai.

[2StrokeDan]

Ek lees hierdie thread, en dis n raam, en n raam, en dit bly by n raam, en toe sommer all of a plotseling, so n pragtige wit karretjie!!

Mooi Woody! Ek is kwaai nuuskierig om te hoor hoe die hele opset hanteer.

[woody1]

So this weekend I managed to get most of the work done and test-drive the rig.

Just sitting still and lean to the left, you can see the sidecar turning LEFT.
When you lean to the right you see the sidecar turning right.

It does the slalom like a Swiss champ.!  

Made 2 dolly wheels to fit to the frame. Now it is easy to dethatch the sidecar by myself.

Will do the final bracing next weekend and also fit the brake master cylinder and wiring..
Dan gaan ons ry pappie.  

[woody1]

Ok so here is the video...
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/kcrPwC0_v3M" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/kcrPwC0_v3M</a>

[Black_Hawk]

Well done on your progress this far 

[Gérrard]

Kan nou nie van die begin af onthou nie... is die nou 'n bewese en getoetsde sidecar model (dat jy net jou specs aangepas het) of is jy nou besig om die wiel te herontwerp ?

[Tom van Brits]

Kan nou nie van die begin af onthou nie... is die nou 'n bewese en getoetsde sidecar model (dat jy net jou specs aangepas het) of is jy nou besig om die wiel te herontwerp ?

Soos ek verstaan is dit hoe die Duitsers hul side cars bou en Woody1 het geleer en presteer Ek het n idee die outjie is baie makliker hanteerbaar as die tradisionele sidecar

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[woody1]

Ja ek het bietjie ge Google.  Nou is ek die EXPERT 

Die idee van die Germane gesteel.
Moes maar self uitfigure waar om die mounting points te maak op die fiets.

Basies kom dit daarop neer dat jou mounting punte in die middle van die motorfiets moet wees.
Volgend stap is dat die voorste punt hoer moet wees as die agterste.
Dus as jy link leun stoot die voorste arm verder uit na links en DRAAI die karretjie links.
Dieselfde vir regs leun.  Daai voorste punt trek die karretjie na regs.

Maklik.

[woody1]

Anybody with STEERING DAMPER experience please give me some ideas as to what is possible.

Now with the swivel action done on the sidecar, I was thinking of putting on a top brace that can be installed when riding mud or sand so that I cannot fall over.
This will be taken out completely when normal roads are available. so that I can enjoy the ride.

But instead of having a SOLID arm between the sidecar and the bike, why would a steering type damper not work.
I need something that sits in the middle of the travel.
When I lean left it will allow me to tilt the bike up to a certain point.
Same with the right tilt. Allow tilt until a max angle is reached.
Where can I buy, borrow, steal such a steering type damper.
It is not much movement that I need.
I tested it and about 12 degrees tilt is adequate for normal riding.

Thank's waiting to hear from the experts...or the people that are not afraid to experiment.

[woody1]

Who has something like this lying around?
Was thinking of a gas strut... but they are either open or close.
So it must be something like this and even better when I can adjust the tension.

[zetman]

Uncle K
 ga kuier vir die manne by Bike Hospital en die ander BikeScrap manne da in jou vally

die suzuki tl1000 en die Honda VFR het so tipe steering damper mee uitgekom seker jy ga regkom da 

nuwe een gan jou n paar duisend rand ruk

[DeepBass9]

Just a suggestion, but you might like to weld some diagonals into the frame as triangles are rigid and can't flex, while squares can become rhombus's when you least need it.

[ChrisL - DUSTRIDERS]

Who has something like this lying around?
Was thinking of a gas strut... but they are either open or close.
So it must be something like this and even better when I can adjust the tension.

My bakkie se canopy se klap het twee sulke jacks by Midas gekoop, nogal Gabriel............................seker te flou?

[Groenie]

Jy kan daai canopy struts laat "tune". Hulle kan die resistance stel.

[woody1]

Just a suggestion, but you might like to weld some diagonals into the frame as triangles are rigid and can't flex, while squares can become rhombus's when you least need it.

Noted and still on the list to do.  This weekend the bracing will be done that is why I have not taken it out on the open road yet.

[woody1]

Struts gaan nie werk nie.  Hy moet DEUR kan beweeg met spanning wat jy kan verstel.... VERTAAN JULLE BOERE NIE. 

[Sláinte Mhaith]

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[Frankrzzgp]

Baie solid front axle 4x4's het 'n shock vir 'n steering damper, kyk dalk watse spec is daardie shock....

[woody1]

Dankie. Pel van my in Slaapstad het my ook vertel. Gaan more gou Koni toe.