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Offline Lord Knormoer

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Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« on: September 14, 2016, 08:56:44 am »
This one's for those that know and those that think they know. I'm planning for an extended visit to the UK and was wondering:
1. Do I sell my bike and buy another?
2. Do I ship my bike with the furniture and go through the pain of registering it in the UK?

Any thoughts?

PS: Depending on the answer my GS may be for sale.
 

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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2016, 10:33:01 am »
I would speak to Peter v.d L (Goose); he has done it, and knows most all of the ins and outs of doing this....
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2016, 03:50:05 pm »
I think POM has also done this or is currently in the process of doing this
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2016, 04:24:30 pm »
I was in the UK last in 2011 and what I found was that bikes are expensive there, whereas secondhand cars are much cheaper

Goose could probably answer you better as Chris said
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2016, 04:52:18 pm »
I moved here and was told that I need a separate container for the bike. Would have cost somewhere around R20k.

So I sold my GS F800.
Only to find that they cost twice as much here.

You will need to buy a new clock cluster as the bike needs to read Miles per hour.

In hind site, I should have brought the GS with me.
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2016, 10:11:37 pm »
I moved here and was told that I need a separate container for the bike. Would have cost somewhere around R20k.

So I sold my GS F800.
Only to find that they cost twice as much here.

You will need to buy a new clock cluster as the bike needs to read Miles per hour.

In hind site, I should have brought the GS with me.


Think you may be able to put a sticker kit over the clock showing miles?
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2016, 10:37:22 pm »
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2016, 12:06:15 am »
If I had woken up earlier I would have brought my bike with me to the USA...

Bikes are more expensive here than cars...

I have a feeling the UK is the same.
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2016, 06:31:50 am »
I remember reading a statistic -recently, tha BMW 1200's were APPROXIMATELY 25% more expensive in America than in SA, and up to 30% more in Europe.

Australia also very expensive, so many riders stick with smaller/Japanese models, and the odd Carbed model STILL available new in that county, IIRC.


Anyway, more expensive overseas.
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2016, 12:58:00 pm »
I'm trying to weigh cost and risk of shipping, conversion to MPH etc vs the increase in cost...
 

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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2016, 01:54:59 pm »
I'm trying to weigh cost and risk of shipping, conversion to MPH etc vs the increase in cost...
maybe E-mail a UK dealership, to get a comparitive price of what a new 1200 will cost int eh UK?

...and be SURE to ask them availability, since their MAY be a short wait?

and THEN buy yourself a very waterproof rain-suit!  ;)
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2016, 02:38:05 pm »
If I had woken up earlier I would have brought my bike with me to the USA...

Bikes are more expensive here than cars...

I have a feeling the UK is the same.

There is an issue on some bikes regarding the headlight when you travel to countries that drive on the opposite side of the road.

Our headlights and that of UK, Japan, Australia shine forward and to the left whereas the US & European headlights shine forward and to the right.

 
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2016, 04:30:06 pm »
You need to check the following:

Import permits and Certificate of Compliance - cost and how long does it take to get and the effort to do so.
Cost to ship, not only the container or roll/on roll/off option but the draining fuel tank, jet wash the bike with certificate that it does not have any African soil on it etc.

In the UK - are you going permanently? Reason and proof of immigration and you have to own your current bike 'x' time etc for permanent import. If you are going temporary you likely need a carnet de passage which cost a fortune and you have to bring the bike back to get your money back.

Customs & duties on that side + if you do go the import route you need to register, roadworthy and insure your bike.

My experience living on the island would be to get it there, use it and sell it. What you lose (and you will lose money) you need to look at enjoying the miles of travelling which would cost you a fortune on public transport/rentals etc. The freedom alone to move around the UK is already worth the money you spend.

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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2016, 01:07:07 pm »
You need to check the following:

Import permits and Certificate of Compliance - cost and how long does it take to get and the effort to do so.
Cost to ship, not only the container or roll/on roll/off option but the draining fuel tank, jet wash the bike with certificate that it does not have any African soil on it etc.

In the UK - are you going permanently? Reason and proof of immigration and you have to own your current bike 'x' time etc for permanent import. If you are going temporary you likely need a carnet de passage which cost a fortune and you have to bring the bike back to get your money back.

Customs & duties on that side + if you do go the import route you need to register, roadworthy and insure your bike.

My experience living on the island would be to get it there, use it and sell it. What you lose (and you will lose money) you need to look at enjoying the miles of travelling which would cost you a fortune on public transport/rentals etc. The freedom alone to move around the UK is already worth the money you spend.

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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2016, 06:22:31 am »
AFAIK, the instrument cluster is a sealed unit.
The mph unit on A+S Motorcycles on-line fiche sells at US$1200...!

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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2016, 08:24:34 am »
AFAIK, the instrument cluster is a sealed unit.
The mph unit on A+S Motorcycles on-line fiche sells at US$1200...!



I think there is maybe a clear sticker you can put on the speedo that shows miles because European bikes come across the channel all the time and would need that
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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2016, 04:29:15 pm »
OK, as much as it pains me, I decided Knormoer will be sold so I can buy something across the water. Thanks for the input :thumleft:
 

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Re: Is it worth shipping your bike to the UK?
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2016, 03:24:24 pm »
I own property in Portugal, a year ago I looked at hiring a big adventure bike, like for like- to what I have here.  1200

to hire a big bike for 22 days was in excess of R67 000.  that's not counting damages and other charges, etc.

to ship a bike and back, including insurance was about R45 000.  so there and back. much cheaper.

in Portugal you can use a bike for 180 days before you have to change the plates to Portugals system.  or leave the custom area and bring it back for another 180.  could be a loop hole to use, but I battled for info as to what to do and how to do it.

if you leave the bike there you need all the permits etc and road worthy every year.  and as previous replies. becomes a problem.

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