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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2016, 07:20:27 am »
Pretty good actually! Perfect time to do it, really.

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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2016, 08:04:16 am »
Jughead, you biscuit!! Thanks for doing mine when I was down there.

How often do you recommend this be done??
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2016, 08:55:40 am »
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2016, 10:12:13 am »
Thanks Jughead!

What is the best lube for this application?

This is not really a critical application. A good bearing grease will do the trick. Just as well as a grease with molybdenium disulfite or graphite additive. I would stay away from copper and nickel compounds, they are meant to prevent parts from seizing (especially threads) and are nor well suited as lubricant for moving parts.
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2016, 10:49:11 am »
Thx for this.  Would the same apply for the new bikes (i.e. 2014+ LC with the swingarm on the other side)?  I read something somewhere about the splines 'lubricated for life' but I never trust statements like these.

No opinion from the gurus on this question?
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« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2017, 03:42:51 pm »
Jughead, you are  gentleman and a scholar, tx for sharing.
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Re: LUBE YOUR DRIVE SPLINES! - How to.
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2017, 06:03:58 pm »
Thx for this.  Would the same apply for the new bikes (i.e. 2014+ LC with the swingarm on the other side)?  I read something somewhere about the splines 'lubricated for life' but I never trust statements like these.

No opinion from the gurus on this question?

I am not a guru, but remember the final drive fluid for life fiasco?
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Re: LUBE YOUR DRIVE SPLINES! - How to.
« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2017, 09:27:47 pm »
Thx for this.  Would the same apply for the new bikes (i.e. 2014+ LC with the swingarm on the other side)?  I read something somewhere about the splines 'lubricated for life' but I never trust statements like these.

No opinion from the gurus on this question?

IMO there is no such thing as "lubricated for life"! Maybe in a stable, clean, sterile environment, but most certainly not in a DS bike.  Anything that comes in contact with  the lube (moisture, water, dust, mud, whatever) contaminates it and compromises the lubrication qualities.

I always use the condition of the oil/lubricant as a gauge to determine the condition of working parts that are to be lubed with said lubricants. I have on more than one occasion rescued gearboxes and final drives from severe damage by draining and inspecting the oil.


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« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2017, 08:54:17 pm »
So I finally decided to check and re grease the FD on my 08 GS with 53K on the clock. It looked like a bit of a difficult job and I've been putting it off for ages. With a trip to the EC coming up soon I thought I would give it a shot.
It was quite a simple job to strip, Have taken wheels and calipers off before for replacement parts so no problem there.
Found a perfect fit rubber plug and plugged the sensor hole. Good advice this.
I first hung the caliper over the FD but as I was on  myself, I found that by hanging the caliper and sensor cable from the rear sub frame, this was now out of the way and easy to work on the FD. Found the original grease fitted had gone hard and there was not much on the splines. No oil leaks or any sign of wear. Very happy about this. Cleaned all out and fitted new high temp bearing grease. Reversed the whole procedure and all went well.
Very easy repair job and took me about an hour from start to finish. Next time will be much quicker. Thanks for the advice on this thread. :thumleft:   
 

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« Reply #29 on: February 26, 2017, 08:19:47 am »
Did mine yesterday.... 20K Km

Pretty much identical to what Jughead described.

My bikes splines looked good - also no sign of oil leaks.

I used Indy MS2 that I got from autozone:

Product description:

INDY Grease MS2 is a high quality lithium grease, fortified with Molybdenum Disulphide. It is intended primarily for automotive applications and is an excellent lubricant for ball joints, CV joints, king pins, universal joints and other chassis parts. This product has a high level of chemical stability, resistance to water washing and provides a maximum protection against wear. INDY Grease MS is effective in operating temperatures ranging between -30C and +120C.
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Re: LUBE YOUR DRIVE SPLINES! - How to.
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2017, 02:13:25 pm »
So I finally decided to check and re grease the FD on my 08 GS with 53K on the clock. It looked like a bit of a difficult job and I've been putting it off for ages. With a trip to the EC coming up soon I thought I would give it a shot.
It was quite a simple job to strip, Have taken wheels and calipers off before for replacement parts so no problem there.
Found a perfect fit rubber plug and plugged the sensor hole. Good advice this.
I first hung the caliper over the FD but as I was on  myself, I found that by hanging the caliper and sensor cable from the rear sub frame, this was now out of the way and easy to work on the FD. Found the original grease fitted had gone hard and there was not much on the splines. No oil leaks or any sign of wear. Very happy about this. Cleaned all out and fitted new high temp bearing grease. Reversed the whole procedure and all went well.
Very easy repair job and took me about an hour from start to finish. Next time will be much quicker. Thanks for the advice on this thread. :thumleft:
Awesome Hamilton. Could you share the od of that rubber bit.  Even better if someone could share the diamensions of the lathe turned plug.
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« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2017, 07:41:17 am »
Hi. My 08 Gs has a 16mm Diameter whole. The rubber plug I used came off a bash plate anti vibration stud. I think you should get this or similar from any reputable Hardware outlet. :thumleft:
 

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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2017, 08:03:48 am »
I made a plug from Delrin (Acetal) this weekend. 2012 1200GS

Small Dia = 15.05mm
Large Dia = 18mm

Total height of the plug is about 27mm.

Snug Fit - not a drop leaked. (I kept the O ring in place when plugging the hole.)

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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2017, 09:20:19 am »
Thank you Duke. Much appreciated!
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2017, 11:00:00 am »
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2019, 12:45:05 pm »
Ek het CV ghries gebruik op die splines, Kan dit 'n probleem wees?
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« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2019, 12:50:59 pm »
Jughead, Sorry for hi-jack, While servicing my bike I realised that on righthandside between gearbox and engine, on lower part, the powdercoating is chipped, which shows its loose, but no oil. so I got to the 2 bolts from gearbox side, on bottom, and they were loose, re-torqued them. I could not see any other bolts to torque. Any ideas what to do?
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« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2019, 02:57:59 pm »
Jughead, Sorry for hi-jack, While servicing my bike I realised that on righthandside between gearbox and engine, on lower part, the powdercoating is chipped, which shows its loose, but no oil. so I got to the 2 bolts from gearbox side, on bottom, and they were loose, re-torqued them. I could not see any other bolts to torque. Any ideas what to do?

You have a total of 5 screws holding the gearbox onto the back of the motor.  Two are at the top, and one on the RHS about midway down and 2 on the bottom.  Just torque all of them.  There should be no oil between the gearbox and motor.  Your clutch lives there.  If you do have oil weeping out there, then you have a problem.
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