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New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« on: September 28, 2016, 04:55:58 pm »
Husqvarna motorcycles just confirmed on their Facebook page that the 2017 701s get the 74 hp, 71Nm motor.  No dates yet about when we can get them.  Getting closer to putting in the order.  Wonder what KTM will do with the 690s.

https://www.facebook.com/Husqvarna.Motorcycles.International/posts/1388295981188110
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2016, 04:58:36 pm »
More details (okay, they are in Dutch but use your best Afrikaans and you'll be fine).

Vandaag heeft Husqvarna Motorcycles de vernieuwde 2017 modellen 701 Supermoto en 701 Enduro aangekondigd. De belangrijkste upgrade betreft 6 PK aan extra vermogen en 3 Nm meer koppel uit het 692,77 cc grote eencilinder motorblok. Ondanks de aanpassing naar EURO4 levert de 701 nu 74 PK bij 8000 toeren en 71 Nm koppel bij 6750 toeren per minuut. Naast meer power over 1000 toeren extra claimt Husqvarna minder brandstofverbruik, ride-by-wire, Bosch ABS, lange (10.000 km) service-intervallen en minder trillingen door een dubbele balansas voor de "Husky" supermotard en offroadmachine. Beide 701's komen zo qua prestaties voor te liggen op die van de 2016 KTM 690 modellen, die bijna de hele basis van de Husqvarna's zijn, maar naar alle waarschijnlijkheid zal er ook hiervoor snel een update aangekondigd worden.

http://www.nieuwsmotor.nl/motornieuws/22093-2017-husqvarna-701-supermoto-701-enduro

Or read it in English the Husqvarna site - http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/enduro/dual-sport/701-enduro-1/
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2016, 05:30:17 pm »
The new Husqvarna MY17 701 SUPERMOTO and 701 ENDURO will be presented at the upcoming Intermot show in Cologne on the Husqvarna Motorcycles booth, Hall 09.1 booth 025 and will be available in Europe from October on.

http://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/it/news/701-models-2017/
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 08:41:25 am »
Very similar to the current 701 from a looks perspective. In other words, it looks amazing!

Would sure be nice to have the 10 000 km service intervals!  :thumleft:


For those who haven't read the articles, here they are:


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Engine

The single overhead camshaft, liquid cooled, single cylinder engine features the latest in design and electronic technology. An outstanding maximum power output of 55 kW (74 hp) at 8,000 rpm and torque of 71 Nm at 6,750 rpm leave the rider in no doubt of the performance packed inside this lightweight unit.

Cylinder head

The compact design of the single overhead camshaft, 4-valve cylinder head features 42 mm intake valves and 34 mm exhaust valves actuated by a robust rocker arm system which delivers precise valve timing at high engine speeds. As a result, the peak RPM is increases to 9000 rpm. Ignition is via a double spark plug layout, each of which has an individual ignition timing control for optimal fuel combustion in the large bore combustion chamber. Refined engine behaviour and optimum power delivery are the results.

Gearbox

A lightweight 6 speed gearbox with smooth and precise shifting gives riders perfect control and confidence even in all conditions.

Ride-by-wire throttle

The Keihin electronic fuel injection system features a 50 mm throttle body with no mechanical linkage to the throttle grip. As the rider twists the throttle open or closed, the throttle valve is electronically controlled by the engine management system (EMS). The EMS continuously compares engine parameters with data from sensors, and adjusts the throttle valve accordingly, resulting in perfect power delivery and throttle response.

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 08:44:13 am »
Would sure be nice to have the 10 000 km service intervals!  :thumleft:

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 09:23:01 am »
Would sure be nice to have the 10 000 km service intervals!  :thumleft:

Service intervals have been 10k since 2012

I didn't know that. My 2009 model has a 5k service interval, hence the statement.

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 10:54:01 am »
Certainly a bike that interests me big time!! :drif:
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2016, 11:09:36 am »
Wonder what KTM will do with the 690s.


I think it is pretty safe bet that 690 is gone from the lineup. Doesn't seem to make sense to make two very similar bikes and the frame in current 690 cannot take the new engine - I doubt they will continue to produce two different versions of the same engine.

I believe this was always KTM's/Pierer's plan (well at least since they bought Husky) - focus KTM on road bikes like 1190 and such to compete with BMW and leave Husky to take care of the dirty business.

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2016, 11:43:18 am »
Bliksem! That's about 10hp and 7Nm more than my Versys...from a single!

I wonder if it will build on the LC4's "stellar" reliability record  :biggrin:
 

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2016, 12:09:46 pm »
Bliksem! That's about 10hp and 7Nm more than my Versys...from a single!

I wonder if it will build on the LC4's "stellar" reliability record  :biggrin:

What is the problem with LC4 engine reliability?

I'm aware of the rocker arms issue (that - annoying as it is - as far as I know wouldn't leave one stranded) and nothing else. I am interested as I would like to take some precautions if necessary but apart from rocker arms haven't heard any other recurring problem.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you might be  mixing 690 reliability with LC4 one - which are two different things IMO. Most of the issues on 690 are electrical and crappy airbox as far as I was able to establish. Haven't heard about the engines bombing out.

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2016, 12:17:59 pm »
I think it is pretty safe bet that 690 is gone from the lineup.


The 690 is gone from the their website
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2016, 12:51:17 pm »
Bliksem! That's about 10hp and 7Nm more than my Versys...from a single!

I wonder if it will build on the LC4's "stellar" reliability record  :biggrin:

What is the problem with LC4 engine reliability?

I'm aware of the rocker arms issue (that - annoying as it is - as far as I know wouldn't leave one stranded) and nothing else. I am interested as I would like to take some precautions if necessary but apart from rocker arms haven't heard any other recurring problem.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you might be  mixing 690 reliability with LC4 one - which are two different things IMO. Most of the issues on 690 are electrical and crappy airbox as far as I was able to establish. Haven't heard about the engines bombing out.

Relax, that was just tongue-in-cheek, your bike won't explode  ;)
I have no evidence to prove anything, for all I know the LC4 could statistically be the most reliable engine ever. But there's no denying that both the 640 and 690 had a bit of a reputation, if you know what I mean.

Looking at figures though, half a 1290 engine should theoretically produce 80hp, so 74hp from 693cc shouldn't be stressing it too much.

 
 

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2016, 12:56:59 pm »
Oh I'm perfectly relaxed, thank you. I was just curious as I tend to ride 690 solo in very remote areas so if there is possible weak point I am not aware off, I'd like to know.

But so far - surprising as it may be seeing that they are trying to squeeze lots of power from single, the engines didn't seem to be the weak point. Maybe that is why KTM decided to compensate for it by crappy airbox design (on both Husky and KTM), just to make sure it at least consumes some oil.

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2016, 01:06:20 pm »
Wondering how this will impact the current 701 owners? How much different is that motor from the current 701?

I mean it's only been on the production line for one year...

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2016, 01:06:43 pm »
What do you do if you want both the SM and the Enduro??

Enduro with SM wheels or would it be cheaper to buy the SM and get offroad wheels.....but then that brake will be a bit much...
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2016, 03:02:50 pm »
Wondering how this will impact the current 701 owners? How much different is that motor from the current 701?

I mean it's only been on the production line for one year...

Here is what KTM marketing has to say about tne engine (which I understand is upgrade of the existing engine, rather than completely new one):

"KTM put a lot of effort into smoothing out the motor. For starters, thereís a new cylinder head with a second balance shaft to reduce vibration. The intake valves run directly off the single camshaft, while the exhaust valves are actuated by a rocker arm. A new, more oversquare cylinder design with a bigger bore (up 3mm to 105mm) and shorter stroke (down 4.5mm to 80mm) lets the engine rev 1000 rpm higher. A new crank assembly features a more compact, lightweight, plain-bearing connecting rod holding a forged piston. The addition of a resonator chamber positioned directly after the new Keihin 50mm throttle body is equally important in controlling throttle response. All of these features, in conjunction with a new dual-spark ignition with different maps for each plug, have played a role in the motorís newfound smoothness. Even the redesigned, lightweight muffler plays a role in added performance, as well as noise reduction."

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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2016, 03:25:35 pm »
Bliksem! That's about 10hp and 7Nm more than my Versys...from a single!

I wonder if it will build on the LC4's "stellar" reliability record  :biggrin:

What is the problem with LC4 engine reliability?


Let's also not forget the notoriously crap clutch. A mates 701 dumped it's clutch on its 2nd ride in the dunes. GJ has the fix though, something to do with removing 2 springs to tighten it up.
More power = more load on the clutch, lets hope they beaf it up on the new 701
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2016, 03:57:24 pm »
Wondering how this will impact the current 701 owners? How much different is that motor from the current 701?

I mean it's only been on the production line for one year...

We knew in February already that the 701 would get the Duke engine next year, that is why I bought a 690 for R15K less looking to upgrade to 701 next year.

http://www.wilddog.za.net/forum/index.php?topic=182304.140
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2016, 04:09:08 pm »
I need to ride one!! :drif:
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Re: New 701 gets 74hp Duke motor
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2016, 04:10:32 pm »
I need to ride one!! :drif:

You can test the '16 Duke in the mean time  :thumleft:
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