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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #100 on: September 30, 2016, 05:30:48 pm »
CitiGolf will be legend too.

I think they are :deal: :thumleft:

In the sense that a lot of people fondly remember their first car, a CitiGolf, or one as a student car, etc, they could be seen as legend.
The Golf 1, and it's continuation to the Citi/Velociti,etc was an influential car for VW and for motorists the world over.
Like the Beetle, the Golf 1 was also a non-descript sort of car, but it's tremendous popularity made it something special.
 

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« Reply #101 on: September 30, 2016, 05:35:29 pm »
YZ400F was the start of 4t revolution and needs to be honoured as a legend

1998 YZ400F - although its AMA win spelled the death of 2T mx bikes, Husaberg were the first guys able to build a lighter than ever thought possible mx bike.
Only difference is that the YZ lasted well. The berg 501 was more of a backyard baboon-tune bike, running a highly strung big-ass piston without a single oil pump in the entire system!
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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #102 on: September 30, 2016, 05:49:08 pm »
Hi I believe the original Africa Twin will become a legend. Won the Paris Dakar 4 times. Extremely Durable and reliable and still favored by some today. Second hand ones are going up in price and already expensive.
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #103 on: September 30, 2016, 10:45:00 pm »
Hi I believe the original Africa Twin will become a legend. Won the Paris Dakar 4 times. Extremely Durable and reliable and still favored by some today. Second hand ones are going up in price and already expensive.


The original AT is already legend.
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2016, 08:58:27 am »
Hi I believe the original Africa Twin will become a legend. Won the Paris Dakar 4 times. Extremely Durable and reliable and still favored by some today. Second hand ones are going up in price and already expensive.


The original AT is already legend.
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Re: Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #105 on: October 01, 2016, 10:54:55 am »
XR650R
And the L.
both ledgends

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #106 on: October 01, 2016, 11:11:21 am »
CitiGolf will be legend too.

I think they are :deal: :thumleft:

In the sense that a lot of people fondly remember their first car, a CitiGolf, or one as a student car, etc, they could be seen as legend.
The Golf 1, and it's continuation to the Citi/Velociti,etc was an influential car for VW and for motorists the world over.
Like the Beetle, the Golf 1 was also a non-descript sort of car, but it's tremendous popularity made it something special.

The Golf Mk I was an absolutely ground breaking design and created a category of cars. Every compact hatch has to admit the Golf being its ancestor.
The Mk I GTI is another legend. Before the GTI there were sports cars and family cars.

The Beetle is a lot more controversial: It was by no means unique and Volkswagen remains very touchy to the subject of plagiarism to the day. Yes, the most produced passenger car platform ever. An icon of the Wirtschaftswunder and mass motorization.
On the other hand they weren't really that good. But they were affordable in a time when that counted most.

The Africa Twin - I am talking about the "real" HRC made XRV650 - earned its legend status by being the first Paris - Dakar "race replica". It was the first bike which made if from the piste of the Sahara to the showroom floor.
Comparing that with the CRF1000 leaves you wondering if the CRF will ever be able to obtain the legend status of the RD03.
Neil Armstrong is a legend and household name. Most people will not know the names of any of the other eleven moon walkers.

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Re: Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #107 on: October 01, 2016, 02:23:12 pm »
XR650R
And the L.
both ledgends

Die Drol

While the L may be a solid and reliable bike,  i don't think is quite as legendary as the R,  and it's not simply because i have an R.
For a long,  long time the R was the boss of its class,  and only recently with the 690 and 701,  has it been equalled/surpassed.
While the R is already a legend,  the 690 & 701 still have their proving to do.
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #108 on: October 01, 2016, 02:33:32 pm »
XR650R
And the L.
both ledgends

Die Drol

While the L may be a solid and reliable bike,  i don't think is quite as legendary as the R,  and it's not simply because i have an R.
For a long,  long time the R was the boss of its class,  and only recently with the 690 and 701,  has it been equalled/surpassed.
While the R is already a legend,  the 690 & 701 still have their proving to do.
I concur.
And yes, I also have an R.
XR650R
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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #109 on: October 01, 2016, 06:24:47 pm »
And the Honda XR650R winning multiple Baja's cannot hurt either.
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #110 on: October 01, 2016, 06:45:45 pm »
Aprillia RSV MilleR...... Top my list
916 and 748 Ducutti and now Panagale (both)
Busa
ZX14R
H2/R
....There are many, I can keep typing

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #111 on: October 01, 2016, 10:09:13 pm »
Aprillia RSV MilleR...... Top my list
916 and 748 Ducutti and now Panagale (both)
Busa
ZX14R
H2/R
....There are many, I can keep typing

One thing is clear to me, Indian (and Victoy) has raised the bar for the Cruisers

The Suzuki GSX-R1300 Hayabusa was the fastest production bike of the 20th century. Legend enough.
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #112 on: October 02, 2016, 08:45:48 am »
Apart from the XT500, very few duelies became legends.

So maybe:
Fireblade
R1
Gsxr
KTM 950 Adv
Ducati Diavel
Hyabusa.

I like the list but I am not sure how you going to choose between the CBR over the R1 over the GSXR and of late the RR as well. It seems every 2 years another one of those is crowned as the best. Hiyabusha on the other hand stands apart as something iconic with a big following.
I don't think in a number of years it really going to matter what superbike was the best, but any one in good condition is going to be remembered as the superbikes of the era - I think they are all very sexy. As for the Busa, personally I think the Blackbird is the nicest, but the Busa is going to be remembered, maybe even for its ugliness. Difficult to say, but a bike don't need to be a first or best at it's time to become a legend. The BMW R1200C for example was a complete failure in my eyes, but already starts to become a legend.
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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #113 on: October 03, 2016, 10:02:20 am »
The big Suzuki engines are legendary, they can get 500hp out of a Busa engine without it exploding.

Check the thing wheelie at over 290 km/h  :biggrin:

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #114 on: October 03, 2016, 10:12:36 am »
The big Suzuki engines are legendary, they can get 500hp out of a Busa engine without it exploding.

incredible.
i wonder why they struggled with the DR650SE - the bike of the exploding motor...
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #115 on: October 03, 2016, 10:16:54 am »
The big Suzuki engines are legendary, they can get 500hp out of a Busa engine without it exploding.

incredible.
i wonder why they struggled with the DR650SE - the bike of the exploding motor...

I'm not sure it is the case with your one but I have heard that it is rider error that breaks the 3rd gear. I can't remember exactly but something to do with standing on the gear lever when landing a jump.
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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #116 on: October 03, 2016, 10:21:14 am »
I'm not sure it is the case with your one but I have heard that it is rider error that breaks the 3rd gear. I can't remember exactly but something to do with standing on the gear lever when landing a jump.

it is a well documented issue.
with the DR not being that popular in this country,  and this forum quite small you have not heard of it.
check on advrider.com - may documented cases.
 

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #117 on: October 03, 2016, 11:53:06 am »
Something like Yamaha's RZ350 YPVS was always destined to be a legend bike, right from the start. It was a small 350cc two-stroke twin that could easily beat most bikes twice it's size.

Now think of a bike today that could beat most bikes twice it's size.......

It was legend even before it landed in SA..

Obviously my vote goes to the XR650R, unchanged, the ultimate winner of more Baja 1000 races than any other bike, used for hard core tripping all over the world.

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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #118 on: October 03, 2016, 12:04:40 pm »
Obviously my vote goes to the XR650R, unchanged, the ultimate winner of more Baja 1000 races

I wonder why Honda stopped making them? Plain stupid if you have a winning setup, the whole of the USA is XR crazy and yet they stopped making them.
They did not stop making the Honda Accord, they improved it and it still a top seller.
They could have improved this bike and still be selling 1000s.
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Re: What is a modern day legend bike?
« Reply #119 on: October 03, 2016, 12:10:33 pm »
Obviously my vote goes to the XR650R, unchanged, the ultimate winner of more Baja 1000 races

I wonder why Honda stopped making them? Plain stupid if you have a winning setup, the whole of the USA is XR crazy and yet they stopped making them.
They did not stop making the Honda Accord, they improved it and it still a top seller.
They could have improved this bike and still be selling 1000s.

The CRF450 started beating it at Baja so no point in building them anymore. 
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