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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1360 on: January 15, 2020, 07:39:10 am »
Let's not blow this out of proportion, after all, us KTM owners are used to this sort of thing. Just be aware if you are planning on getting one.

If I were to buy any bike today, new, I'd go through all these type of points and make sure all seals well.

If you cannot do it yourself, instruct the dealer to do it before you take delivery, also serves to protect you when it does give a problem.

Absolutely  :thumleft:

I've been doing the same on my 690 for years

Still disappointing to see this from Yamaha, who has been building scramblers for a few years.

If a 1968 DT1 250 could have a well-sealed airbox, why not a 2019 model??
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1361 on: January 15, 2020, 08:28:14 am »
Van ATM na Yama-betaal-maar  :pot:

It is disappointing. It will be interesting to see if any of these modern bikes still run 50 years from now
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1362 on: January 15, 2020, 08:53:53 am »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1363 on: January 15, 2020, 09:03:47 am »
Van ATM na Yama-betaal-maar  :pot:

It is disappointing. It will be interesting to see if any of these modern bikes still run 50 years from now

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1364 on: January 15, 2020, 09:14:07 am »
I wonder why the engineers did not assess the bikes on the World Raid for issues such as this?
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1365 on: January 15, 2020, 01:26:30 pm »
One day well get the proper sorted T7 in SA, see Yamaha is very concerned about our market hence proper testing and development now elsewhere  :deal:

 :biggrin: :) Still my dream bike and like Danie and Jaco suggest; always keep an eye and hands on approach on your bike  :thumleft:

WRT today's vehicles that is simply not on the same standard as they used to be I respectfully beg to differ - in my experience. I can recall as a youngster how often our Chev chevelle, Ford Ranchero etc overheated and how we often stood next to the road with various models. As a young fireman we had cars of the 80's and on our off days we were frequently working on the cars.  Same with our old inline 4 Kawa Z models, Suz and Hondas. If it was not carburetor floats it was synchronizing and my one old Honda still had point and condenser as well as some of our cars....pok how can we forget  :eek7:
Nowadays you get service intervals of 12k km on bikes plus and yesterday when I dropped my oil after 6k km from the NC my son said; but it's still clean! I know but it's the habit, I did the oil change anyway.
Not once did a modern vehicle (I am talking 2010 onwards) ever left me stranded next to the road - not even company vehicles opposed to the 'good old days'

Yes maybe some parts (body parts) are a bit flimsy but bear in mind nowadays the engine is a stress member ....or whatever you call that and so on. My son's XTZ is of proper build quality in my opinion but if you do not preventative maintenance you will run into trouble: we have noticed excessive play on the hub and found the cush rubbers shot. Replaced it with Andy's teflon rubbers and all good just as an example. Best to detect potential problems is to properly wash your bike yourself and that service as an inspection as well.  :thumleft:
 
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1366 on: January 15, 2020, 01:56:35 pm »
Is the airbox an issue ? I see no mention of it on Advrider thread just the usual suspension improvement talk

https://advrider.com/f/threads/yamaha-tenere-700-problem-thread.1404142/page-6

I know Unifilter already makes a airfilter for the T7
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1367 on: January 15, 2020, 02:07:44 pm »
One day well get the proper sorted T7 in SA, see Yamaha is very concerned about our market hence proper testing and development now elsewhere  :deal:

 :biggrin: :) Still my dream bike and like Danie and Jaco suggest; always keep an eye and hands on approach on your bike  :thumleft:

WRT today's vehicles that is simply not on the same standard as they used to be I respectfully beg to differ - in my experience. I can recall as a youngster how often our Chev chevelle, Ford Ranchero etc overheated and how we often stood next to the road with various models. As a young fireman we had cars of the 80's and on our off days we were frequently working on the cars.  Same with our old inline 4 Kawa Z models, Suz and Hondas. If it was not carburetor floats it was synchronizing and my one old Honda still had point and condenser as well as some of our cars....pok how can we forget  :eek7:
Nowadays you get service intervals of 12k km on bikes plus and yesterday when I dropped my oil after 6k km from the NC my son said; but it's still clean! I know but it's the habit, I did the oil change anyway.
Not once did a modern vehicle (I am talking 2010 onwards) ever left me stranded next to the road - not even company vehicles opposed to the 'good old days'

Yes maybe some parts (body parts) are a bit flimsy but bear in mind nowadays the engine is a stress member ....or whatever you call that and so on. My son's XTZ is of proper build quality in my opinion but if you do not preventative maintenance you will run into trouble: we have noticed excessive play on the hub and found the cush rubbers shot. Replaced it with Andy's teflon rubbers and all good just as an example. Best to detect potential problems is to properly wash your bike yourself and that service as an inspection as well.  :thumleft:

When you were a youngster, I'm sure breaking down on the side of the road wasn't life threatening.....   :-\

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1368 on: January 15, 2020, 02:15:54 pm »
When you were a youngster, I'm sure breaking down on the side of the road wasn't life threatening.....   :-\

What is the relevance to this discussion? Are the vehicles too scared to break down?

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1369 on: January 15, 2020, 02:28:41 pm »
When you were a youngster, I'm sure breaking down on the side of the road wasn't life threatening.....   :-\

What is the relevance to this discussion? Are the vehicles too scared to break down?
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1370 on: January 15, 2020, 04:32:51 pm »
Just what is it with air filter sealing? Are they like looking for a cure to the to the common cold I wonder?

Engineering science that can produce steering and suspension dampers that adapt hundreds - or is it thousands? - of times per second to changing terrain
and all the other wonderful safety and protection systems built into modern bikes, and yet they still breathe grit?

Something ain't right!  :patch:

 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1371 on: January 16, 2020, 06:52:59 am »
The 690/701 range also sucked dirt. but the most simple sealing of the filter element edges with grease or like I do, with silicone, sorts this 100%.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1372 on: January 16, 2020, 10:51:24 am »
When you were a youngster, I'm sure breaking down on the side of the road wasn't life threatening.....   :-\

What is the relevance to this discussion? Are the vehicles too scared to break down?

Modern bikes = more reliable = big benefit in ZA ...... I can see how that could have been a stretch for some.   :pot:

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1373 on: January 16, 2020, 04:46:53 pm »
The 690/701 range also sucked dirt. but the most simple sealing of the filter element edges with grease or like I do, with silicone, sorts this 100%.



But Dan, you said yourself that your 1968 Yammie had a well sealed airbox. Now, more than 50 years later it seems that owners are expected to overcome the manufacturers design faults.

Are they trying to 'catch up' with the way our British bikes were back in the '60's?  >:D :pot:
 

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« Reply #1374 on: January 16, 2020, 05:38:55 pm »
The 690/701 range also sucked dirt. but the most simple sealing of the filter element edges with grease or like I do, with silicone, sorts this 100%.



But Dan, you said yourself that your 1968 Yammie had a well sealed airbox. Now, more than 50 years later it seems that owners are expected to overcome the manufacturers design faults.

Are they trying to 'catch up' with the way our British bikes were back in the '60's?  >:D :pot:

 :thumleft: :thumleft:  modern riders are too full of shit, our 70's Ducati's did not have filters at all, from the factory.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1375 on: January 16, 2020, 10:52:33 pm »
The 690/701 range also sucked dirt. but the most simple sealing of the filter element edges with grease or like I do, with silicone, sorts this 100%.



But Dan, you said yourself that your 1968 Yammie had a well sealed airbox. Now, more than 50 years later it seems that owners are expected to overcome the manufacturers design faults.

Are they trying to 'catch up' with the way our British bikes were back in the '60's?  >:D :pot:

 :thumleft: :thumleft:  modern riders are too full of shit, our 70's Ducati's did not have filters at all, from the factory.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1376 on: January 17, 2020, 02:53:14 pm »
The 690/701 range also sucked dirt. but the most simple sealing of the filter element edges with grease or like I do, with silicone, sorts this 100%.



But Dan, you said yourself that your 1968 Yammie had a well sealed airbox. Now, more than 50 years later it seems that owners are expected to overcome the manufacturers design faults.

Are they trying to 'catch up' with the way our British bikes were back in the '60's?  >:D :pot:

 :thumleft: :thumleft:  modern riders are too full of shit, our 70's Ducati's did not have filters at all, from the factory.
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It's here! (well, sort of...)  ;)


A VERY good-looking T700 pulled up at our Store yesterday, Portugeuse chap who rode the WEST route, from Luxemborg down to Cape Town, will spend a couple of nites in C.T., then departs back for Portugal up the EAST Coast...

If you wish to follow him, he is 'World Biker':  HECTIC sandstorm video lower down the page!
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Bike looks very good; he had his name on a waiting list for close to a year, IIRC, then they advised him they could not get one for the start of his trip, well, they made a plan, and then he managed to organize, from Yamaha, after much persuasion: Yamaha: bash plate + center-stand + pannier rack + panniers, and a few other SW Motech goodies.


He is REALLY impressed with the bike, had 2 or 3 'drops' with it whilst riding heavy sand, and he was carrying a fair load, etc.
Bike seemingly had hardly scratch on it - I think he said he did some oil changes/oil filters and basic stuff himself on the way down - lekker!

the salesman here at FB all loved it, too, saying they thought that is more than they expected from the bike!


I THINK the T700 should be available here in SA around September (2020  ;) ), if anyone knows more, let us know!
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1378 on: January 22, 2020, 03:41:38 pm »
Looks like a XT660z to me.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1379 on: January 22, 2020, 04:07:19 pm »
Looks like a XT660z to me.

They all look the same to me  O0
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