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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1720 on: June 12, 2020, 08:04:40 am »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1721 on: June 12, 2020, 08:13:33 am »


like a 1300 Tazz has more usable power than a (enter any fast car here)?

You use the Tazz as an example like we are talking about tar vehicles?

A better example would be this; a XT250 has better usable power than a KX500. Unless you're in a race.

Are you confused by "Ready to race"? :pot: :pot:
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1722 on: June 12, 2020, 08:17:15 am »
One of the comments on above video; :Yamaha has re-invented the 990" O0
Jy speel met vuur.....

 :thumleft: It is actually what the 990 should have been, a little lighter, with a bit more usable power, and much more economical.

Look it's not exactly a revelation in terms of weight but I agree with you. I am sure riding this back to back with a 990, the 990 will feel like a much heavier bike.

And apart from a few, the only place big bike can riders use the power is on highways, gravel or otherwise.

If I had to buy a bike to set off around the world, this would be first pick.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1723 on: June 12, 2020, 08:37:36 am »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1724 on: June 12, 2020, 09:41:07 am »


like a 1300 Tazz has more usable power than a (enter any fast car here)?

You use the Tazz as an example like we are talking about tar vehicles?

A better example would be this; a XT250 has better usable power than a KX500. Unless you're in a race.

Are you confused by "Ready to race"? :pot: :pot:

Let's make it Suzuki jimny.

I use car references because I am 34 and don't know the KX500...
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1725 on: June 12, 2020, 10:57:18 am »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
First dirty fuel and you are stuck on the side of the road  ;)
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1726 on: June 12, 2020, 11:12:37 am »
Two Frenchman took T7's on an epic journey from the Nordkap to Cape Town (26000km). Presently the latest episode they are in Cameroon. Turn on Youtube translate for dodgy subtitles but be that as it may they took on some of the toughest tracks and the T7's are doing really well. Call the Yammie boring I call it a test of a true ADV bike

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1727 on: June 12, 2020, 11:14:11 am »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
First dirty fuel and you are stuck on the side of the road  ;)

To be fair that will be true on any fuel injected bike, T7 included. But add a decent filter and you should be fine.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1728 on: June 12, 2020, 11:15:00 am »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
First dirty fuel and you are stuck on the road  ;)

Fit a pre-filter, bike has dirty fuel map plus it has dual switchable fuel pumps......

But ok, I am sure the T7 is immune to dirty fuel. It can't get punctures either I'm sure  :pot:
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1729 on: June 12, 2020, 11:17:43 am »
sidetrack there is solutions for the 701 fuel issue. the big Africa trips have been done with them.
as with all bikes, T7 included, with a little prep the RTW trip can be done.

The above test has been done and passed by just about all bikes out there, an R1 included.

The RTW review I watched of a T7 you quickly realized the rider was not aggressive at all, and does not push or stress his bike at all. He did not even do the suspension.
ANd there is enough proof out there that the t7 needs stiffer springs.
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1730 on: June 12, 2020, 11:41:32 am »
sidetrack there is solutions for the 701 fuel issue. the big Africa trips have been done with them.
as with all bikes, T7 included, with a little prep the RTW trip can be done.

The above test has been done and passed by just about all bikes out there, an R1 included.

The RTW review I watched of a T7 you quickly realized the rider was not aggressive at all, and does not push or stress his bike at all. He did not even do the suspension.
ANd there is enough proof out there that the t7 needs stiffer springs.

Don't know what you mean here, yes for most heavier people I'm sure you will need heavier springs. For someone like me at 75-80kg I'm sure it will be fine and certainly an upgrade from the 660Z. If this bike is really so much cheaper than the competition a set of springs will be no issue. Many bikes have done these trips but I'm sure those interested in the T7 would enjoy the experience of the two guys.
« Last Edit: June 12, 2020, 12:53:31 pm by sidetrack »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1731 on: June 12, 2020, 11:46:42 am »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
First dirty fuel and you are stuck on the road  ;)

Fit a pre-filter, bike has dirty fuel map plus it has dual switchable fuel pumps......

But ok, I am sure the T7 is immune to dirty fuel. It can't get punctures either I'm sure  :pot:
Just saying I have never read of an fuel pump failure on a XT660Z for example but have seen many on 690's etc.Then again I hear it's Made in China. Is the 701 one updated from the 690 ? Dirty fuel map, so would you need to analyze the fuel before making the switch ? Nah I would take a single map and ride wherever I want not being bothered  ;)
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1732 on: June 12, 2020, 11:55:11 am »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
First dirty fuel and you are stuck on the road  ;)

Fit a pre-filter, bike has dirty fuel map plus it has dual switchable fuel pumps......

But ok, I am sure the T7 is immune to dirty fuel. It can't get punctures either I'm sure  :pot:
Just saying I have never read of an fuel pump failure on a XT660Z for example but have seen many on 690's etc.Then again I hear it's Made in China. Is the 701 one updated from the 690 ? Dirty fuel map, so would you need to analyze the fuel before making the switch ? Nah I would take a single map and ride wherever I want not being bothered  ;)

I didn't come here to debate merit or say one was better than the other. I was just being honest about my personal preference.

You know I've been riding a 690 for the last 6 years right? I know exactly what the internet says and what it does in reality.

Anyway knock yourself out  :thumleft:
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1733 on: June 12, 2020, 12:40:23 pm »
Actually I lie. The 701LR would be first pick, this second
First dirty fuel and you are stuck on the road  ;)

Fit a pre-filter, bike has dirty fuel map plus it has dual switchable fuel pumps......

But ok, I am sure the T7 is immune to dirty fuel. It can't get punctures either I'm sure  :pot:
Just saying I have never read of an fuel pump failure on a XT660Z for example but have seen many on 690's etc.Then again I hear it's Made in China. Is the 701 one updated from the 690 ? Dirty fuel map, so would you need to analyze the fuel before making the switch ? Nah I would take a single map and ride wherever I want not being bothered  ;)

I didn't come here to debate merit or say one was better than the other. I was just being honest about my personal preference.

You know I've been riding a 690 for the last 6 years right? I know exactly what the internet says and what it does in reality.

Anyway knock yourself out  :thumleft:
Ok great and I'm sure many will prefer the T7 over the 690/701 also given their personal preference. Only thing I see here is that it's ok to rag on the T7 but it's hands off for any KTM
« Last Edit: June 12, 2020, 01:01:58 pm by sidetrack »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1734 on: June 12, 2020, 01:24:41 pm »
but it's hands off for any KTM

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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1735 on: June 12, 2020, 02:19:39 pm »
 :laughing4:..... And that's only volume one of six?
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« Reply #1736 on: June 12, 2020, 02:47:25 pm »
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« Reply #1737 on: June 12, 2020, 02:56:21 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1738 on: June 12, 2020, 04:35:50 pm »
690/701, from brand new you remove the fuel pump housing from the tank, removed the in-tank fuelfilter and by-pass with piece of straight tubing, and fit a fuel filter outside the tank.

I doubt whether this work would be needed on the T7, as it's never been on any other Yamaha.
 
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Re: Yamaha T7 Concept
« Reply #1739 on: June 12, 2020, 05:36:35 pm »


One of the comments on above video; :Yamaha has re-invented the 990" O0
Jy speel met vuur.....

 :thumleft: It is actually what the 990 should have been, a little lighter, with a bit more usable power, and much more economical.

Look it's not exactly a revelation in terms of weight but I agree with you. I am sure riding this back to back with a 990, the 990 will feel like a much heavier bike.

And apart from a few, the only place big bike can riders use the power is on highways, gravel or otherwise.

If I had to buy a bike to set off around the world, this would be first pick.


You think?
Putting a stronger motor in the same bike, makes the bike feel heavier.

Even if you stroke a 450 to 525, the same bike will feel noticeably heavier.

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