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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2680 on: September 03, 2020, 08:08:26 am »
So this bike is priced at $9,999.00 in the USA. The current exchange rate is R16.9/1$ so if you did a direct conversion, it would be priced closer to the R170k mark. Then you take their fancy purchasing power parity equasion into account and the bike should be even cheaper.

Is this another case of guvemunt taxing homologation and customs duty to hell? 

I'm guessing it's not a Yamaha problem.....or Mr Facebrook is taking the early bird catches the extra 30k worm.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2681 on: September 03, 2020, 08:10:40 am »
If I had 200k, Yamaha would be my 3rd stop.
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2682 on: September 03, 2020, 08:17:00 am »
Altie, do you honestly believe that a Husky 701 at R170 000 is better value than a T& at R200 000?

Support your answer, if yes. Why do you say so?
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2683 on: September 03, 2020, 08:23:55 am »
So this bike is priced at $9,999.00 in the USA. The current exchange rate is R16.9/1$ so if you did a direct conversion, it would be priced closer to the R170k mark. Then you take their fancy purchasing power parity equasion into account and the bike should be even cheaper.

Is this another case of guvemunt taxing homologation and customs duty to hell? 

I'm guessing it's not a Yamaha problem.....or Mr Facebrook is taking the early bird catches the extra 30k worm.

Rumours I heard around pricing (think it was on this thread, who knows between all the kak praat...) includes purchasing power, but also shipping cost. Japan to SA is damn far. Japan to US and Aus is much shorter. Uk and EU ship from France, so also shorter.
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2684 on: September 03, 2020, 08:27:17 am »
Is there any feedback from Hogsback Rallye ? I don't see any ride reports or mention of it

Adrian Bac was there on one. I sat on it but did not ride- a few guys just took a short spin. Apparently its good and capaple. Visually i does nothing for me, but i must admit i only have eyes for KTM. Maybe someone else?.

I could do a ride report - but I will be accused of being biased! Been on here waiting for impressions from those that took the bike for a demo.................

I still haven't seen or heard anything...  :sip:
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2685 on: September 03, 2020, 08:52:07 am »
So this bike is priced at $9,999.00 in the USA. The current exchange rate is R16.9/1$ so if you did a direct conversion, it would be priced closer to the R170k mark. Then you take their fancy purchasing power parity equasion into account and the bike should be even cheaper.

Is this another case of guvemunt taxing homologation and customs duty to hell? 

I'm guessing it's not a Yamaha problem.....or Mr Facebrook is taking the early bird catches the extra 30k worm.
Exactly the T7 is praised the world over for it's good pricing. If it's different in SA don't blame the bike
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« Reply #2686 on: September 03, 2020, 09:17:33 am »
the T7 is praised the world over for it's good pricing. If it's different in SA don't blame the bike

No, but praise is always price related!

When say a (Toyota has been used as a comparative brand already...) Landcruiser DC V8D would sell here for R500K then we would see a helluvalot more on the roads, in the suburbs, never mind the high fuel consumption.... but they don't, due to price mainly of course.
Now 'our' T7 lacks the very-clear price advantage it has just about anywhere else, and that WILL reflect in sales numbers because the opposition, I think 790 mainly, offers more for relatively little more money.... so don't expect a queue at the dealers like there was for the 790  ;)

And yeah, that's a pity as no doubt this is a nice bike.
Yamaha screwed themselves by taking way too long to develop this thing during which KTM brought out their veryvery popular 790 Adv, hell, they even managed to continue their production of them by not moving it to the east (or delaying this move) so as to take advantage of the high appetite of the collective consumers.
My guess is we will see a LOT less T7's on our (dirt)roads because of very late availability (worldwide) first of all, stone-last delivery region wise plus those in the market for it having bought a 790 already - and now that it is finally available the pricing advantage ('cheaper') has been largely taken away by Yammie.

Sorry Dan, but my hunch is you'll agree with at least part of this  ;)
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2687 on: September 03, 2020, 09:31:47 am »
Altie, do you honestly believe that a Husky 701 at R170 000 is better value than a T& at R200 000?

Support your answer, if yes. Why do you say so?

Ja oom Dan, ek glo die 701 is sy 170k uit en uit werd, en sal dit betaal bo die 200k van die T7.
Ja, die 701 het 20 persent opgegaan in prys van verlede jaar, het die ander vervaardigers nie ook opgegaan nie?
Vir jou 170k kry jy `n scrambler met n betroubare hoe verrigting enjin, FI, WP suspension, en fokol screen of subframe.
Dit is `n narrow focus bike, maar uitstekend in wat dit doen.
Dit kan baie goed nie doen wat jy met `n T7 doen nie, maar dan het jy nog nooit Pol nodig gehad om die 701 verkoop te kry nie.
Die ouens wat die 701 kry, doen almal hulle eie stunts.
Die 701 sal waarskynlik dood wees teen 100k op die enjin, en die T7 nog lekker loop, maar in daai 100k sal die 701 baie meer gedoen het as die T7 en baie meer plesier verskaf het. Dan gaan koop jy weer n 701.
JA, as jy die Toyota-hou-vir-ewig-en-gaan-goed-herverkoop waarde nastreef gaan jy dood gelukkig wees met die T7.
Ek redeneer nie so as dit by bikes kom nie.
En ek glo nie oom Dan redeneer so nie, selfs `n 690 wat in die straat aan die brand slaan was nie genoeg om weg te stap nie.
Terwyl ons praat van die Toyota waarde by bikes, teen 200k vir die T7 sal 165k vir n 850 en 185k vir AT ook `n uitstekende belegging van jou geld wees. 
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2688 on: September 03, 2020, 09:34:29 am »
So this bike is priced at $9,999.00 in the USA. The current exchange rate is R16.9/1$ so if you did a direct conversion, it would be priced closer to the R170k mark. Then you take their fancy purchasing power parity equasion into account and the bike should be even cheaper.

Is this another case of guvemunt taxing homologation and customs duty to hell? 

I'm guessing it's not a Yamaha problem.....or Mr Facebrook is taking the early bird catches the extra 30k worm.
Exactly the T7 is praised the world over for it's good pricing. If it's different in SA don't blame the bike

No, you cant blame the bike or Bidvest for the pricing.
Only Yamaha.
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2689 on: September 03, 2020, 11:53:41 am »
With the MT-07 @ ~R135K how do they justify R200K for the Tenere with the same motor?
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2690 on: September 03, 2020, 01:23:06 pm »
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« Reply #2691 on: September 03, 2020, 02:02:30 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2692 on: September 03, 2020, 02:04:16 pm »
With the MT-07 @ ~R135K how do they justify R200K for the Tenere with the same motor?
Pol needs to be paid for the video of the T7.....

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2693 on: September 03, 2020, 03:15:30 pm »
Wonder how the Yamaha T7 compares to the perennial favorite KTM 690 Enduro?
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« Reply #2694 on: September 03, 2020, 03:25:57 pm »
Wonder how the Yamaha T7 compares to the perennial favorite KTM 690 Enduro?
Although the cc is basically the same it's 2 completely diffrent bike classes.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2695 on: September 03, 2020, 03:28:08 pm »
Wonder how the Yamaha T7 compares to the perennial favorite KTM 690 Enduro?
Although the cc is basically the same it's 2 completely diffrent bike classes.

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In what sense? Does the 2 cylinder T7 cruise better? Cannot think that it is better off-road, even though it poses to be incredibly competent?
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« Reply #2696 on: September 03, 2020, 03:31:43 pm »
Wonder how the Yamaha T7 compares to the perennial favorite KTM 690 Enduro?
Although the cc is basically the same it's 2 completely diffrent bike classes.

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In what sense? Does the 2 cylinder T7 cruise better? Cannot think that it is better off-road, even though it poses to be incredibly competent?
Would assume the T7 much more comfortable on tar, smoother. Faster cruising speed.
690 is more like a large dirt bike. Can't imagine that they would compare off road. Regardless of the false hope that Pol is giving the avg rider.......

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« Reply #2697 on: September 03, 2020, 03:36:39 pm »
 
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2698 on: September 03, 2020, 04:01:29 pm »
Wonder how the Yamaha T7 compares to the perennial favorite KTM 690 Enduro?
Although the cc is basically the same it's 2 completely diffrent bike classes.

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In what sense? Does the 2 cylinder T7 cruise better? Cannot think that it is better off-road, even though it poses to be incredibly competent?
Would assume the T7 much more comfortable on tar, smoother. Faster cruising speed.
690 is more like a large dirt bike. Can't imagine that they would compare off road. Regardless of the false hope that Pol is giving the avg rider.......

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I reckon the T7 will be a fantastic all-rounder!

With the twin engine, much more exciting than any single though.

The T7 and 790 are different bikes, styling and performance wise and will appeal to different style riders.

None are/will be cheap. If you can afford R 150k for a toy, than R 200k will be within your reach.

If not, you'll have to stick to you XR, DR, KLR etc, which will still bring adventure to your ride/life.

Regarding Pol...doubt if any one on here can ride a bike...any bike...like Pol.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #2699 on: September 03, 2020, 05:50:30 pm »
Altie, do you honestly believe that a Husky 701 at R170 000 is better value than a T& at R200 000?

Support your answer, if yes. Why do you say so?

Ja oom Dan, ek glo die 701 is sy 170k uit en uit werd, en sal dit betaal bo die 200k van die T7.
Ja, die 701 het 20 persent opgegaan in prys van verlede jaar, het die ander vervaardigers nie ook opgegaan nie?
Vir jou 170k kry jy `n scrambler met n betroubare hoe verrigting enjin, FI, WP suspension, en fokol screen of subframe.
Dit is `n narrow focus bike, maar uitstekend in wat dit doen.
Dit kan baie goed nie doen wat jy met `n T7 doen nie, maar dan het jy nog nooit Pol nodig gehad om die 701 verkoop te kry nie.
Die ouens wat die 701 kry, doen almal hulle eie stunts.
Die 701 sal waarskynlik dood wees teen 100k op die enjin, en die T7 nog lekker loop, maar in daai 100k sal die 701 baie meer gedoen het as die T7 en baie meer plesier verskaf het. Dan gaan koop jy weer n 701.
JA, as jy die Toyota-hou-vir-ewig-en-gaan-goed-herverkoop waarde nastreef gaan jy dood gelukkig wees met die T7.
Ek redeneer nie so as dit by bikes kom nie.
En ek glo nie oom Dan redeneer so nie, selfs `n 690 wat in die straat aan die brand slaan was nie genoeg om weg te stap nie.
Terwyl ons praat van die Toyota waarde by bikes, teen 200k vir die T7 sal 165k vir n 850 en 185k vir AT ook `n uitstekende belegging van jou geld wees.

Ek was deur Gideon geindoktrineer om n Husky te koop.......