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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4340 on: February 26, 2021, 12:11:24 pm »
Kamera tricks okay

But if those are real ohlins forks, I'd ride that bike

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4341 on: February 26, 2021, 01:32:28 pm »
Kamera tricks okay

But if those are real ohlins forks, I'd ride that bike

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4342 on: February 26, 2021, 02:36:11 pm »
Kamera tricks okay

But if those are real ohlins forks, I'd ride that bike

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Ohlins forks or Ohlins cartridge kits?



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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4343 on: February 26, 2021, 02:40:17 pm »
Kamera tricks okay

But if those are real ohlins forks, I'd ride that bike

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Ohlins forks or Ohlins cartridge kits?



https://www.off-the-road.de/en/700-Tenere/Suspension-Wheels/Suspension/

Just as I suspected, I have yet to see Ohlins forks for the T7, I had seen the Ohlins Cartridge Kit.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4344 on: February 26, 2021, 02:47:09 pm »
At least you can get a CC kit and new shock with 35mm more travel

€3000

At least the T7's initial purchase price is low enough to warrant spending 50000 more Randelas

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4345 on: February 26, 2021, 09:12:43 pm »
At least you can get a CC kit and new shock with 35mm more travel

€3000

At least the T7's initial purchase price is low enough to warrant spending 50000 more Randelas

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4346 on: March 01, 2021, 05:08:08 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4347 on: March 01, 2021, 05:53:42 pm »
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4348 on: March 01, 2021, 06:14:58 pm »
At least you can get a CC kit and new shock with 35mm more travel

€3000

At least the T7's initial purchase price is low enough to warrant spending 50000 more Randelas

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You'll still be under a 790 Rally, and you'll have a keeper in the T7.

Maybe you have a point but I feel Yamaha have over priced the bike to begin with and I know this point has already been discussed but...

If the bike costs $10000 in the US and GBP 8700 in the UK, that is R150k and R181k respectively,

Let's look at the UK which has 6% duty and 20% VAT on motorcycles exceeding 500cc but less than 800cc (TH 8711.40).  In the UK, the duty and VAT is paid on the landed cost including freight.

In South Africa our duty is a formula duty (Sch1 Part 2B) and works out to 8.05% and VAT at 17.71% in this instance and these are not paid on the cost of the freight

Therefore would the bike not be more realistically and market friendly priced at R185k which compares to UK pricing? 

I have noticed that products like Apple are priced similarly to the UK after converting to Rands and we rarely see US pricing as their market is vastly larger than the UK or ZA

At R185k the cost of upgrading the suspension would be more palatable than R200k plus, plus
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4349 on: March 01, 2021, 07:10:39 pm »
At least you can get a CC kit and new shock with 35mm more travel

€3000

At least the T7's initial purchase price is low enough to warrant spending 50000 more Randelas

:pot:

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You'll still be under a 790 Rally, and you'll have a keeper in the T7.

Maybe you have a point but I feel Yamaha have over priced the bike to begin with and I know this point has already been discussed but...

If the bike costs $10000 in the US and GBP 8700 in the UK, that is R150k and R181k respectively,

Let's look at the UK which has 6% duty and 20% VAT on motorcycles exceeding 500cc but less than 800cc (TH 8711.40).  In the UK, the duty and VAT is paid on the landed cost including freight.

In South Africa our duty is a formula duty (Sch1 Part 2B) and works out to 8.05% and VAT at 17.71% in this instance and these are not paid on the cost of the freight

Therefore would the bike not be more realistically and market friendly priced at R185k which compares to UK pricing? 

I have noticed that products like Apple are priced similarly to the UK after converting to Rands and we rarely see US pricing as their market is vastly larger than the UK or ZA

At R185k the cost of upgrading the suspension would be more palatable than R200k plus, plus

My opinion, the cheaper the better......but unfortunately R185 000 is now in single cylinder territory. The T7 is a twin, and would cost more.
 

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Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4350 on: March 01, 2021, 09:06:30 pm »
Om alles in perspektief te sit. Die “top of the range”
Specialized e-bike is nou R223k. Dan is motorfietse eintlik ‘n bargain en die T7 nie so duur nie.


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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4351 on: March 01, 2021, 09:24:12 pm »
“top of the range”

See below, the top of the range bike at US$11Million ...... I think your perspective needs calibration!
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4352 on: March 01, 2021, 09:34:15 pm »
At least you can get a CC kit and new shock with 35mm more travel

€3000

At least the T7's initial purchase price is low enough to warrant spending 50000 more Randelas

:pot:

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You'll still be under a 790 Rally, and you'll have a keeper in the T7.

Maybe you have a point but I feel Yamaha have over priced the bike to begin with and I know this point has already been discussed but...

If the bike costs $10000 in the US and GBP 8700 in the UK, that is R150k and R181k respectively,

Let's look at the UK which has 6% duty and 20% VAT on motorcycles exceeding 500cc but less than 800cc (TH 8711.40).  In the UK, the duty and VAT is paid on the landed cost including freight.

In South Africa our duty is a formula duty (Sch1 Part 2B) and works out to 8.05% and VAT at 17.71% in this instance and these are not paid on the cost of the freight

Therefore would the bike not be more realistically and market friendly priced at R185k which compares to UK pricing? 

I have noticed that products like Apple are priced similarly to the UK after converting to Rands and we rarely see US pricing as their market is vastly larger than the UK or ZA

At R185k the cost of upgrading the suspension would be more palatable than R200k plus, plus

My opinion, the cheaper the better......but unfortunately R185 000 is now in single cylinder territory. The T7 is a twin, and would cost more.

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4353 on: March 01, 2021, 10:00:03 pm »
... single cylinder territory. The T7 is a twin, and would cost more.

You're sure about that?
The rest-of-the-world's resale prices would suggest otherwise, on par with - which makes it such an attractive bike, there!  ;)
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4354 on: March 01, 2021, 11:00:24 pm »
... single cylinder territory. The T7 is a twin, and would cost more.

You're sure about that?
The rest-of-the-world's resale prices would suggest otherwise, on par with - which makes it such an attractive bike, there!  ;)

Sales in Sa indicates it to be a very attractive bike here too.  The market always dictates what is expensive, as MB found out with their expensive Nissan bakkie.
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4355 on: March 02, 2021, 03:27:56 am »
I saw something that worried me about the T7. An accident damaged one was for sale in Melbourne for around R50,000. Looks like owner had collected a kerb and gone for a trip down the road. Apart from the scratches and a ding in the front rim the other damage was a CRACKED TRIPLE CLAMP. I can't find the picture now but it really looked like a bad casting. I've broken and bent all sorts of motorcycle bits over the last 40 years but a triple clamp has never been one of them. What do you think Dan? By the way, I went for a very wet ride with 2 guys on 790's over the weekend (cyclone Narin here) and neither of them broke down and I have to say they are very impressive motorcycles. I was starting to think that if it was Yamaha or Kawasaki that made them I would buy one tomorrow! Does that make me a bigot?
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4356 on: March 02, 2021, 06:45:55 am »
I saw something that worried me about the T7. An accident damaged one was for sale in Melbourne for around R50,000. Looks like owner had collected a kerb and gone for a trip down the road. Apart from the scratches and a ding in the front rim the other damage was a CRACKED TRIPLE CLAMP. I can't find the picture now but it really looked like a bad casting. I've broken and bent all sorts of motorcycle bits over the last 40 years but a triple clamp has never been one of them. What do you think Dan? By the way, I went for a very wet ride with 2 guys on 790's over the weekend (cyclone Darin here) and neither of them broke down and I have to say they are very impressive motorcycles. I was starting to think that if it was Yamaha or Kawasaki that made them I would buy one tomorrow! Does that make me a bigot?
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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4357 on: March 02, 2021, 07:13:12 am »
Is hier al n T7 eienaar op die forum?
 

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Re: Yamaha T7 - No longer a Concept
« Reply #4358 on: March 02, 2021, 07:50:27 am »
I saw something that worried me about the T7. An accident damaged one was for sale in Melbourne for around R50,000. Looks like owner had collected a kerb and gone for a trip down the road. Apart from the scratches and a ding in the front rim the other damage was a CRACKED TRIPLE CLAMP. I can't find the picture now but it really looked like a bad casting. I've broken and bent all sorts of motorcycle bits over the last 40 years but a triple clamp has never been one of them. What do you think Dan? By the way, I went for a very wet ride with 2 guys on 790's over the weekend (cyclone Darin here) and neither of them broke down and I have to say they are very impressive motorcycles. I was starting to think that if it was Yamaha or Kawasaki that made them I would buy one tomorrow! Does that make me a bigot?

That is something I noticed as well. There was one with a snapped handlebar after a sand off. They don't seem to crash very well. As a habitual crasher, that's a concern. I've cartwheeled some of my KTMs and still rode them home
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« Reply #4359 on: March 02, 2021, 07:52:01 am »
Is hier al n T7 eienaar op die forum?
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